How Strasburg Built A State Title Team w/ Asst. Coach Jason Gutierrez

They said a run-first team couldn’t survive December. We invited Strasburg assistant coach Jason Gutierrez to show exactly how a clear identity, punishing practices, and a connected community turned doubt into a state championship.

We dig into the heart of culture: why Strasburg keeps practices more physical than games, how “good on good” reps build muscle memory, and why a simple, repeatable plan beats trendy schemes under pressure. Jason breaks down their run-heavy philosophy—34 passes all season, 10–15 yards a carry—and why the goal isn’t balance for balance’s sake; it’s doing what works when the stadium shakes and the stakes rise. When the title game opened 12–0 against them, nobody flinched. That calm came from months of deliberate habits.

We also explore the foundation beneath the trophy. A true feeder pipeline gives kids the same language from youth to varsity, so they think less and play faster. Tough non-district scheduling forged resilience through real tests—Skyline, Broadway, Turner Ashby—so the playoffs felt familiar. On recruiting, Jason gets practical about smaller-school realities: how highlight reels, emails, camps, and relationships matter more than classification. Add staff experience from the college ranks, and players gain a roadmap to be seen.

Beyond football, there’s a message for any team facing setbacks: next man up is a plan, not a slogan. Turn last year’s pain into this year’s focus. Keep the playbook clear, the practices demanding, and the standards loud enough for the whole town to hear. If you believe culture wins, this conversation will arm you with specifics you can use tomorrow.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Opening Banter And Guest Setup
• 2:00 Local Hoops Injury And Hanley Outlook
• 5:10 Welcoming Coach Gutierrez And Valley Pride
• 9:30 Building Strasburg’s Culture And Identity
• 15:20 Classification, Talent, And The Trenches
• 21:30 Practice Standards And Physicality
• 26:40 Schedule, Loss To Broadway, And Tests
• 32:40 Feeder System And Continuity
• 36:40 Coach’s Playing Days And Program History
• 41:30 Run-Heavy Philosophy And Passing Myths
• 46:20 Recruiting Reality And Player Initiative

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 0:41

What's up, ladies and gentlemen? You know what time it is. Back with BWO, Tony and Tuck in the house, and uh we got a special guest coming to you live from the Strasburg Rams, the state football champions, that uh a lot of the so-called analysts said didn't have a chance. They said Limbard was gonna put it on them. And I don't know a whole lot except the Strasbourg won by like 21.

SPEAKER_06: 1:06

What was it? 40.

SPEAKER_02: 1:07

49, 28?

SPEAKER_06: 1:08

Yeah, or 27, something like that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11

Yeah, well, yeah. So they beat them by what they thought they was going to beat by. So I'm excited to have this guy on and talk about, you know, their accomplishments and the states, man. But in the meantime, Tony, you know what time it is first.

SPEAKER_07: 1:25

What's that?

SPEAKER_02: 1:27

Will Braun doing, Christian Gius, uh, Jayvon Briscoe. Let's go.

SPEAKER_06: 1:32

Right, great. Yeah. Uh well, hey, hold on, Chris. I'm doing doing something real quick. I'm trying to get our our guest his invite real quick.

SPEAKER_02: 1:43

Yeah, shout out to Mr. Jason Gutierrez. Welcome, welcome from Strasbourg. You know, state champs, man. Some really hasn't done since 94.

SPEAKER_06: 1:55

All right, so got that out the way. So hopefully he he gets it. But yeah, well, what we want to discuss, uh, I guess, yeah, the big news everybody already knows uh for Haley basketball. Will Brian Due and went down in the Sharando game early in the third period. So no prognosis yet. I get, you know, the figure is a break or something, you know, maybe, but we don't know yet until tomorrow. So there's your update. There's your update on what I'm just relaying the what I got.

SPEAKER_02: 2:27

I'm just saying it's been three days. Like, yeah, if you don't know now, that's crazy. That means it's not good.

SPEAKER_06: 2:32

I mean, I'm sure they I mean to me, they probably know they're just not officially releasing it yet. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02: 2:40

The only thing that does is allow Hanley to bring all their dogs out now. Now they need to play like Derek Douglas and the Civics, man, and just start playing. Right because they got a team of dogs. Christian gonna kill everybody with the with the dunks and you know the mid-range. So they got a chance, man. It's unfortunate for what happened to Will, but now they can just really just go out there and play as dogs. They're the seniors, all of them.

unknown: 3:12

Right.

SPEAKER_02: 3:12

Jameer, they're all seniors, man. Let's go get busy.

SPEAKER_06: 3:16

Right, right. Yeah, it's it's unfortunate. It sucks. You hate to see any, especially a kid, you know, get hurt. Yeah, so hopefully, hopefully.

SPEAKER_02: 3:25

At the end of the day, man, you can't hang your hats. Like we always say in anything, next man up. And this is just more opportunities for certain kids that would have never got those minutes because they're gonna play a lot. He's first team all state, like he's a beast. But it's it's next man up. And I just I think if I if I was coach, I'd be like, all right, man, I'm about to open the kennel. Because it's nothing but dogs gun. It's dope. Right, right. And and look, no lie, they had a tough game yesterday. They barely beat a 218 in Central, who they got Derek Matisse and Hayden Click and a couple people that didn't know. They got a squad, but they shouldn't hang with Hanley. And Hanley only won, and they had a score of 35 points.

SPEAKER_07: 4:04

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02: 4:05

Christian had 22 the night before. Like, what's going on? Yeah, Central put it on y'all defensively.

SPEAKER_06: 4:13

Hey, I uh I don't take nothing away from them, that central team, man. They're they're well coached, and I knew that would be, you know.

SPEAKER_02: 4:22

Well, you know, Central played against John Marshall last year in States, right? So if you if you're playing against a team full of people as tall as Christian or bigger, like, yeah, you're gonna be you're gonna have a little experience. Right. John Marshall beat everybody by 50.

SPEAKER_05: 4:41

Right, right. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 4:45

But yeah, if you want, man, you might as well go ahead and turn into an animal and start ramming shit, because we got Jason in the house.

SPEAKER_06: 4:55

Well, I'm trying to get him, you know.

SPEAKER_02: 4:58

I'm trying to think of you act, you act like my homeboys Mike Domin and Dwayne Clark, man. Y'all over there stuck, man, in the 70s. Y'all old ass dude.

SPEAKER_06: 5:07

Here we go, here we go. I think we we tried. Let's let's see.

SPEAKER_02: 5:12

Shout out to the ugly sports truth podcast, because they already have my man on, but yeah, me and Mike.

SPEAKER_04: 5:21

That was an easy one. How you doing?

SPEAKER_02: 5:23

No, no, we're excited to have you on, man, and hear your story and what y'all went through and what it takes to get there and everything, man, to celebrate you because no lie, man. I'm proud of you guys.

SPEAKER_03: 5:33

Hey, thank you.

SPEAKER_02: 5:34

That's awesome that y'all won it all. Fuck Linvar.

SPEAKER_04: 5:38

So uh it's it's been a long time for anybody around here, you know what I mean? So to see everybody so excited about it. Um for a time down here in the valley, you know what I mean? We got a rich culture, rich football culture. Uh, we've had it for what I mean. The finally getting done for not, but the valley been uh been exciting.

SPEAKER_06: 6:01

Right, right. Yeah, so so let's start with that. You know, uh tell us your culture and how it was built going, I guess.

SPEAKER_04: 6:11

Um of course everybody knows the name uh Coach Glenn Proctor, right? So he came through, I think the school opened at maybe 40 or something like that, 50 times. Um but anyway, he he came through out of the hills of West Virginia, was the head coach for 40 plus years, um, just to just a win, but just not able to, you know, crap the mountaintop. You know, always a bridesmate, never a bribe. Um just you know from him getting hit the lawn, pouring his hard soul into it, uh coaching Jeff, uh Gary Ramsey, all those guys just you know, coaching, uh you know, definitely they would they would coach you know however many people play their coach done. Um just everybody was was familiar with what it took and what it meant to play football at Stralsberg, you know, like and it's just continued, you know, like um it's it's been it's been right, right.

SPEAKER_06: 7:26

Yeah, I mean what you guys have done there, you know, what Charles were 2A, right?

SPEAKER_03: 7:32

I think we got an enrollment of I don't know, maybe I think all we're teaching one and two air um so it it's it's a small class uh it's it's like with uh harder to go. And of course uh the watch is the climbers who they have there uh play uh quarterback.

SPEAKER_04: 8:20

So it's you know, smaller classification, but um tons of talent.

SPEAKER_06: 8:26

I was gonna say a bu a bunch of dogs out there. Cause I heard from the game, you know, looking at people's comments that they said like that's the best offensive line and defense like they've ever seen in high school football.

SPEAKER_04: 8:43

It's uh it's been pretty successful, yeah. I don't think everything bro, you know.

SPEAKER_07: 9:32

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_06: 9:37

No, nigga, Chris, is it Jason breaking up to you?

SPEAKER_02: 9:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 9:41

Yeah, you're breaking up a little bit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 9:44

That's what I said. I think something's wrong when you when you turned it off of you and it would just be I heard everything perfectly.

SPEAKER_06: 9:50

Right, right. Is it better now? Speak Jason. All right. It might be Yep, yep. Seems better now. Yeah. Okay. Hopefully it's better.

SPEAKER_04: 10:02

He's a member of the offensive line. Uh, like I said, it's you know, to be able to do this after not be able to get it done as the player, to watch my son get it done, it's great, you know. Right.

SPEAKER_02: 10:12

Yeah, you can live vicariously through him. That's a yeah, that's but I mean they got it done, man. You guys beat everybody in, you know, most games that wasn't even close. Like uh you you guys just had a better overall team than everybody. So when Glenvar was talking, all these people was talking about Glenvar gonna win by 20, 30 points. Man, y'all beat them out.

SPEAKER_05: 10:32

What are they talking about?

SPEAKER_04: 10:34

Well, a lot of people just didn't know. Like, you know, in today's day and age, when you're running the football, like we are, you know, not putting it in the air, you know, people just kind of you know look down their nose at you, like, uh, what is this, you know, 1900s, 1800s football. What are y'all doing? Right. Well, you guys ripping it off at 10 to 15 yards a clip. Like, what do you want us to do? You know, right.

SPEAKER_06: 10:58

Hey, it's like when I coach football, it's like, hey, you're gonna know what's coming, you just gotta stop it. I run the same day and play over and over until you stop.

SPEAKER_04: 11:07

I don't know how many times I've looked out there and seen a non-10 man box, you know? Like, right, and still, you know, we'll have Princey or Brady, somebody just skirt through there untouched 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_06: 11:19

Right, because you guys only threw what I saw on the art, like a total of 34 passes all year.

SPEAKER_01: 11:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 11:25

Uh-huh. But like you said, that's it's unheard of. Because we talk about this with football, like what Haley's problem is. It's like you gotta be able to spread the field, you know, you start playing these other teams, yeah, you know, further south. Yeah, but hey, you got you guys did it. I mean, I didn't get people's mentality of man, they're not gonna go far, you know, they just run, somebody will eventually stop it.

SPEAKER_04: 11:46

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 11:46

But well, that's uh I mean it's also stick to what's working.

SPEAKER_04: 11:53

You know what I mean? Like, we can't if you if you're a spread team, you probably got a spread mentality. Right. You know what I mean? Like, we don't we don't have that mentality down here. You know, we're just it's every day of practice, we're beating on each other. Like, you know what I mean? So when Friday nights come, like it's easy. You know, those kids aren't gonna see anybody better on Friday night than they just saw all week at practice. Like, we put good on good, you know what I mean? We're putting the work in, it's it's technical, it's physical. Um, and that's what you gotta do. You know, I've talked to a ton of coaches, like, oh, you know, we're just not physical, we're not this. Like, what do your practices look like? Right. And like, oh, well, you know, we don't got the numbers and this. Like, shit, you think we do? Like, you just don't hit a switch and be like, yep, I'm gonna be tough today. Like, right, right. You know, I mean they they gotta they gotta be baptized by fire. Right.

SPEAKER_02: 12:49

That's a great mentality you have. I can see how y'all got the way y'all got it.

SPEAKER_06: 12:53

I mean, I love that because like most coaches say, it's like practice has gotta be harder than the games. Right, right. And then it comes easy when them lights are, you know, the game comes around.

SPEAKER_04: 13:04

Yeah, so nervous and you're unprepared.

SPEAKER_06: 13:12

Jason, you did something again. You broke it, you move something.

SPEAKER_04: 13:17

Maybe it's setting the phone down.

SPEAKER_06: 13:19

Man, man, yeah, there you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 13:22

But uh, yeah, it's just, you know, I preach that to my own son all the time. Like it's it's just habit building. You build the habits because when you're in competition, you're not thinking, you're just playing. So, what's your body reverts to? Muscle memory. You know, like if you built bad habits, your body's gonna revert back to that. If you built good habits, then that's what's gonna show.

SPEAKER_06: 13:43

Right, right. Totally, totally agree, man. That muscle memory thing, it just comes easy after that. But okay, let's your schedule, right? You guys started out again. It was a little tough at first because you got your only one loss.

SPEAKER_04: 13:57

Yeah, so so we schedule, I mean, we schedule as hard as we can, you know, outside of district play. So we start off with Skyline. Um, then I think we went to Broadway. Yeah, we beat Skyline. Um went down to Broadway or Broadway. Broadway got us at home. Um then who we got? Then I think we had like Warren County, uh, Moorefield, then Turner Ashby. You know, Turner Ashby, they've been they've been beating the snot out of people, you know, for years. Right. Um, so they schedule us for a homecoming game. Okay. We go down there 49-14 on them. I mean, they're they're on their home.

SPEAKER_06: 14:37

They thought it was gonna be a cakewalk.

SPEAKER_04: 14:43

They're a tremendous team, tremendously coached, you know what I mean. But we want we wanted to test our kids early, like and prepare you for this part of the year. So um kudos to our our AD and and head coach, you know, for for getting them games on the schedule. Um it pays dividends in the end, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_06: 15:03

It definitely definitely does, making it those hard games in the beginning.

SPEAKER_02: 15:08

How many uh kids do you return?

SPEAKER_04: 15:10

Um, we lose a lot. Um I think we graduate 17. 17 or 8.

SPEAKER_06: 15:16

That's a good bid.

SPEAKER_04: 15:17

Uh a lot of big pieces. So we're gonna be we're gonna be reloading. I won't say rebuilding because you know, I mean, we've moved the bar. Those young guys knows what it takes. They've seen us do it for years. Um that they just gotta make that same commitment. You know, they've been in the same practices, they've been in the same weight room sessions. Um it's just next man up. You know, there's no excuses. Right.

SPEAKER_06: 15:39

Now, do you guys have like a feeder program there in Strong? Like, you know what I mean, the little league or what they run like because I know Clark County is good for that.

SPEAKER_04: 15:47

Not a technical feeder program, but there is a Stralsburg Midget Football League here in Stralsburg that we work with, you know, very closely. Um, try to get involved with them as much as possible. Um, they're also, you know, the Rams. So this is one of the few places where they go from uh midget football, you're the Rams, your elementary school is the Rams, the middle school, signal knob Rams, like you're just a Ram.

SPEAKER_06: 16:13

Right. Your whole, yeah, your whole life. Yeah. And it's like Clark County, because I was bringing that because Clark County does the same thing. They're all Eagles from the you know, and they run the same system. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 16:24

So yeah, a few years ago they came to us and were like, hey, you know, we'd really like to run what you guys run. Um down there, helped them install some of our stuff. Um, that's that's really helped us, you know, just terminology-wise. You know, same thing. The less kids gotta think, the faster and more physical they'll play when they don't have to think. And so it just, you know, connect one dot after another, and um, you know, you gotta see the results. Right.

SPEAKER_02: 16:52

What years did you play?

SPEAKER_04: 16:55

Uh I played so I transferred into Strasbourg from Surando my the end of my freshman year. So I was there from like uh I graduated in 03, so like 01-03. Okay. We lost in the state semifinals my junior year. Um, which is like huge, you know what I mean? We shouldn't shouldn't have lost that game, but uh we did. Reloaded that year. Uh Joe Balzemore was our quarterback, ended up playing quarterback at Ohio State. Um, you know, we were we had some talent on that team and just underachieved. Right, right. We didn't even beat we beat Hanley that year. Came down to Hanley. Oh, y'all played. Yep. Right.

SPEAKER_02: 17:41

Well, y'all the state champs, and Hanley's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. I don't have all those kids, man. I'm sorry. Y'all need to speak to Mr. Gutierrez and everybody else down there at Strasbourg, man, because we haven't won since I was 13, man. I'm damn near 45.

SPEAKER_06: 18:00

Yeah, I was uh I was what a sophomore 94.

SPEAKER_02: 18:04

I played freshman football that year, man. We haven't won since. So shout out to those guys. But no, but that age, man.

SPEAKER_04: 18:10

You guys will think, you know, you can just and it it it really depends on the year. Like you got some teams sometimes, especially in today's culture with kids transferring in and out, like you know, you could run into one team one year, you know, then run them to the next year, they look completely different. Yeah, you got all these, you know, new kids that just moved in or whatever. Um, so you you never know, man. You got to see when you can.

SPEAKER_06: 18:34

Right. Yeah, it definitely doesn't last long. I mean, that's a good point, too. All this transfer and everything. Because I was gonna get to that too. Like, you know, your scheduling, like you guys intend on scheduling, like, do you know, like maybe a handly or something? Um people would probably like to see that.

SPEAKER_04: 18:51

I think it's in like two, two or four-year cycles.

SPEAKER_06: 18:54

I think I think it's two.

SPEAKER_04: 18:55

Yeah, you can't schedule like if you if you scheduled like a new team, it'd have to be for for like a two-year block. Right. Um, and it's really hard to schedule the the bigger teams. Like, we're fortunate that you know the three eight three A schools and stuff will schedule us. Um, just when it comes to the PowerPoint situation in the region, um, you know, it's it's got to be beneficial for both teams to play each other. Right.

SPEAKER_06: 19:19

Um, you know, when see, Chris, is what I'm trying to explain to you, especially about basketball.

SPEAKER_02: 19:24

I wow, if Hanley would have lost the central yesterday, you can cancel their season. The number one team in the state of 4-8. Hey, coach, they're number one in the state of 4-8. If they would have lost the central yesterday, who has a lot of great kids. I told you Hayden and their kids, it's over. There's no way they would have anybody would have cared about them playing okay on all these other games they're playing there, right? They lost the central. And and what'd you just say, coach, about the points? Oh, that would have crushed Hayden.

SPEAKER_04: 19:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm not sure exactly. I mean, obviously, you play a lot more games than basketball, so you may. Have been able to recover. But like football, you only have those 10. So you come down, you know, a 2A Strasbourg comes up to a 4A Hanley, you know, knocks them off, and then you know, if something happens to us and we don't get any more wins, right? Then that that really hurts, you know, them going forward as far as power points.

SPEAKER_02: 20:21

Yeah, because now they're yep, now your win against them doesn't have no leverage. But if y'all went undefeated, they'd be like, well, that team went undefeated.

SPEAKER_04: 20:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you're gonna play smaller schools, you better make sure they're they're winning football games.

SPEAKER_02: 20:33

But Central's really good in basketball.

SPEAKER_04: 20:36

What's that?

SPEAKER_02: 20:37

Central's really good right now in basketball.

SPEAKER_04: 20:39

Yeah, yeah. I mean, they got a great coach, Jeff Whittle, another Stralsberg guy.

SPEAKER_02: 20:43

Hey, Jeff, Jeff played against me in high school. He was a beast.

SPEAKER_04: 20:46

Yeah, yeah, he could be a good thing.

SPEAKER_06: 20:49

Yeah, they have a good yeah, they really have a good thing.

SPEAKER_02: 20:52

Jeff Whittle, man, they used to kill us.

SPEAKER_06: 20:54

They have a really good thing there, Gore. But that's another example. I think those boys at Central have played together for a while. You know, that continuity. They've played since a young age, so they know each other. Yeah, we've just touched on. So it really helps.

SPEAKER_04: 21:08

Who's your toughest opponent this year? Our toughest opponent this year. Um, I mean, obviously, we lost to Broadway. Um, so yeah, I'd probably have to say Broadway. Um, another well to well well-coached team. Um, they they play us tough every year. Um, and I they only lost to uh they only lost to LCA by two in the playoffs. Yeah, like 14 to 12. Um so they gave them a run. Um, they got a lot of young kids coming back, they're gonna be solid next year. Um but yeah, TA again will be they'll be tough. Um they'll have a little salty uh no, they're three. No, they're three, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 21:52

I'm gonna say because when I was growing up, they were the same as Hanley. But I mean things have changed a lot since then.

SPEAKER_04: 21:57

But yeah, there's only had what, three classifications? Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 22:04

Right. Yeah. Not as many schools as there is today.

SPEAKER_04: 22:08

I mean, Skyline will be tough next year. I mean, they got Zaydan coming back.

SPEAKER_02: 22:12

Uh Zaydan's the best player, but I don't know if they have a team.

SPEAKER_04: 22:17

Yeah. They all they always got a ton of talent over there, man. Um respect for those kids. You know, they they got a ton of talent, you know. They they can figure that thing out. Right, right.

SPEAKER_06: 22:30

Yeah, yeah. Well, Zay Zaydon will definitely be a handful again. I can't believe that kid's only a junior what he's doing. Yeah, it's it's amazing. I don't care what level of football you're at or sport, what he did, you know, that's over 20. That's impressive. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 22:45

Very impressive. You know, we got we got a young kid ourselves, Quincy Williams, uh 2,000 yard rusher. Um, you know, I mean, he's only a junior as well. Maybe back.

SPEAKER_06: 22:54

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04: 22:55

All right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 22:56

Yeah, he was near one of the topics of the states, too.

SPEAKER_04: 22:58

Yeah, yeah. And you know what I mean? We we blew out a lot of people. So he did, I think he maybe had half the carries of Aiden.

SPEAKER_06: 23:06

Uh really.

SPEAKER_04: 23:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 23:08

Yeah. Well, let's let's touch on that. So uh recruiting-wise, yeah, like is it harder for like a 2A football player, you know, what I'm getting at, or from a high like a 4A, 5A, you know, how's the recruiting landscape like for you know for smaller schools like that?

SPEAKER_04: 23:26

I mean, it's non-existent, really. You know what I mean? Like, if we got kids moving in and out, then you know that's one thing. Um, that's nothing that ever really crosses our mind. Like, right. I mean, who who would possibly want to move here? You know, things of that nature. That's just uh we're small town, we like winning with our small town kids. Right. Um we have them, you know, kids move in, you know. I mean, we'll welcome them with open arms. Um but actively doing that, like never.

SPEAKER_06: 23:56

Yeah. Well, my I'm sorry, I didn't specify again. I'm saying college, but like, do they get a lot of I'm sorry, Jace. Yeah, I didn't mean you actually recruited. So, yeah, like college level. Oh, oh, yeah, oh yeah, I know. That's we all know. But uh, yeah, yeah, like how's it the landscape?

SPEAKER_04: 24:16

I think it does affect the kids a little bit. You know what I mean? I think um social media and stuff that's you know helps a lot to get your name out there, uh playing deep into the playoffs. Um, but a lot of stuff that people don't understand about recruiting is it's the the legwork that you have to do as a player and as a family uh to get recruited, you know what I mean? You have to show up on Friday night and hey, I'm good at football. Like, you gotta send the emails, you gotta put together the highlights, you gotta build relationships with the city. You gotta show interest.

SPEAKER_06: 24:49

Yeah. Jason, please tell my son Christian this. I tell him that. I'm like, you gotta reach out to these schools. He's like, well, you have to. You have to. I try to tell him the same thing, but he's like, oh well, well, if they want me, they'll reach out to me. I'm like, you can't have that mentality. You've got to show interest. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 25:05

Got to. Um, and we're fortunate enough to on our staff this year, uh, Jonathan Kluseman joined us again. Uh, so he was assistant strength and conditioning coach at uh East Carolina University for five years. So he's back with us on our staff. Um he won a national championship at JMU as a tight end um a few years back. So he's well well versed in the recruiting landscape. Um that's a that's a big plus for our kids here. Um, walk them through that process and the connection and stuff.

SPEAKER_06: 25:39

Yeah. That's huge. Yeah. Yeah. So uh what was it the previous year? You guys went back to back. Because you lost who did you lose to last year? I lost to Graham. Graham, okay.

SPEAKER_04: 25:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's um they're they're pretty good last year. I think uh, I mean we had we had damn near the same team as we took this year. Um, a couple kids. Um just got down there, got down early, you know, it's a different feel, and uh, you know, just couldn't couldn't couldn't get over the hump, you know, the of the early turnovers and stuff like that. Um, but it was a learning lesson, right? Right. Just like anything else. You're either winning or you're learning.

SPEAKER_06: 26:22

Right, exactly. They they came, they proved it this year. They learned from it, right? They wasn't gonna let it happen again.

SPEAKER_04: 26:32

But they did. Like we all had a goal, we set a goal, and it was never, man, it was a weird feeling all year. Like we celebrated stuff, but it was like we we celebrated, and then it was just on to the next one. Like it was business, like it was yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 26:49

I I get that. Yeah, they were just this a different focus. You know, they knew the end goal. We haven't got our goal yet. Yeah, yep. I get I get that.

SPEAKER_02: 26:59

No, then you need to have them Hamley basketball kids listen to this, listen to this coach right here we got on, man. Because right, right. They they're in a similar situation. Going to States the last two years, yeah, haven't won, but now they have all seniors. They have eight, non-seniors, man. That's unheard of in basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't just celebrate the little ones. You celebrate, like you said, it's it's time to get ready for business.

SPEAKER_06: 27:22

Yeah, right, right. Well, I mean, I I've been through that situation uh well twice. Coaching football. I knew exactly what you're talking about. My first team when I had Quincy and Christian off. It was like we lost in a semifinal the year before, dude. They can't, I never seen a team come back focused. Like you say, it's just like a different, like they're just you see, dude, they're different, like they're hungry. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04: 27:46

And then kind of it showed its face for us um early in the state title game. Like we're down 12-0. You know, it could have been like, oh, here we go again, like on the dance. But it was never like our kids never, they never blinked. It was like, who cares? You know what I mean? It it was they were they were literally unfazed, which like it blew my mind.

SPEAKER_06: 28:08

It's just the it's so great to see, like, I guess you say, you know, the maturity of the kids from one year to the next. And it's just, yeah, I'm I'm with I've been there a couple of times. It's like watch them come back, kids come back, and just so laser for because they didn't, you know, now they know it's like they kind of take it for granted, you know, until they start building that winning culture. You gotta, you know, establish that winning culture. And now it's like now they understand.

SPEAKER_04: 28:33

They've been surrounded with that conversation, you know, since they were little kids, like, oh, we can't win it, we haven't won it. That's all they've heard. Right. You know what I mean? So you go down in a championship game again, you know, that the cross the thoughts gotta cross your mind, like we're just cursed or whatever, we can't do it. I mean, right. You're you're you've been indoctrinated into that for and and I don't think it's just years, you know. Yeah, yeah, that's just when the conversation is over, it's different now. Like we're we're state champs, and so the the younger kids coming up, like, yo, what are you doing? Okay, uh football players uh in the midfield. There are ball boys, um they're on the sidelines with us, water boys, you know what I mean? They got brothers on the team. Um they just they've been a part of it the whole way.

SPEAKER_06: 29:26

Yeah, and that's what's great. Them young kids too, seeing that winning culture and getting ingrained in them at a young age, so they know that standard already coming up. You know, that's that's good stuff, man.

SPEAKER_02: 29:38

How many young kids can we shout out, real quick, coach, that made all state or all region or something? You guys had a lot of stars.

SPEAKER_04: 29:45

We got, I don't know. It's weird. I don't know if I'm allowed to say or not.

SPEAKER_06: 29:51

Have they released it yet?

SPEAKER_04: 29:53

We know, but they haven't officially released like the 2A Yeah, that's what I thought. Like, I hadn't do it. That's fine.

SPEAKER_06: 30:00

Yeah, no, yeah, we don't want to get you in trouble, coach.

SPEAKER_04: 30:04

I've been instructed, you know, that not to post anything or do anything, so I don't want to get anybody in trouble, but we do have some kids that you know I mean that that picked up some honors for sure.

SPEAKER_06: 30:16

Right. Well, I'm sure I'm sure it'll be released soon. Yeah, I'm surprised it hasn't been put put out yet.

SPEAKER_04: 30:23

Yeah, I know like one A, I think one A, four A, and six A have been out. Yeah, six A came out too. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the holdup or what the deal is.

SPEAKER_06: 30:33

Who knows? You're dealing you're dealing with you're dealing with the VHSO, I guess, you know.

SPEAKER_04: 30:41

Yeah, they're they're uh yeah, as long as they left.

SPEAKER_06: 30:45

But no, you can go there what you gotta say. Yeah, but what do you specifically do? I don't think we've had what do you sp what's your job to on the coaching staff?

SPEAKER_04: 30:56

So I'm just uh uh DBs and running backs coach. Okay.

SPEAKER_02: 31:00

Um he said just DBs and running backs, usually you know, a lot of times those are the same kids.

SPEAKER_04: 31:09

Um, you know, we got a lot of two-way kids, so you know, being able to work with them every day, build relationships with them, and uh, you know, just teach them the game of football, right? Right how that game's over in the rest of our life is probably the biggest, you know what I mean? The biggest thing we get to do every day.

SPEAKER_02: 31:26

So with your off-season program.

SPEAKER_06: 31:29

I was about Chris, I was about to answer the same quick like you guys are right already back in the lab.

SPEAKER_04: 31:35

Yeah, so after after winter break, you know what I mean? We'll we'll hop right back into uh off season workouts for all the kids that aren't playing the winter sport. Um so we'll lift probably two to three times a week. Um we have weightlifting classes during the day. So kids that don't have the class will be the ones lifting after school. But if you got class, I mean obviously take care of it in there because um getting them ready. So it's it's not it doesn't end right in the screen.

SPEAKER_06: 32:04

This might be a silly question because y'all just run the ball, but do y'all participate in seven on sevens and stuff like that? Do you really okay?

SPEAKER_04: 32:11

Yeah, yeah, okay. We play seven on seven at Central every year. Um we go seven on seven against uh most of the schools we play during the regular season. Um so yeah, I mean, I know we don't show it a lot in game. We have a passing game. Right. Uh you know, it's it's all built in, but when you like said before, when you're running at 10-15 yards a clip, there's no point.

unknown: 32:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 32:38

Um I'm Richard's.

SPEAKER_02: 32:39

I'm a Washington, I'm a Washington Richkins fan, but I don't know what happened to Coach this year for Philly. You have Saquon, man. I've been thinking that all year. I'm like, dude, he's getting three to ten carries sometimes. I'm like, no money y'all losing. And like you guys have this running game, right?

SPEAKER_04: 32:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 32:58

You said you just coach running backs and and D backs. But guess what? You guys win because you run the ball down people's throat and kill them.

SPEAKER_01: 33:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 33:06

So that's a testament to you and how you train these kids, man. That's dope.

SPEAKER_06: 33:10

Right for sure, man. And and you coach basketball too, right?

SPEAKER_02: 33:14

Not everybody gonna win the championship.

SPEAKER_04: 33:18

Yeah, I coach uh I'm the boys middle school coach here as well for basketball. Um, been doing that for a couple years. Oh, okay. So you do the middle school. Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. Yeah, basketball is always my first love until uh my first Friday night game. And then it all changed.

SPEAKER_06: 33:33

Then it all changed, right? Yeah, there's hey, there's nothing like the Friday night lights, right? Can't find it anywhere else, man.

SPEAKER_02: 33:40

Hey, Christian make no sense because none of them have lights.

SPEAKER_06: 33:42

I know, but Chris Christian's Christian said this. That's funny, Jason mentions that. Like Christian said the same thing when he played football. He said, Dad, he said, football, the energy is just different. It's like I love it. Like, and it is. It's you're right.

SPEAKER_04: 33:56

Well, like in basketball, you're on a court, you know what I mean? You're everybody can see you, hear you. You know, you make a mistake, it's on center stage. You know, you make a mistake on a football field, you get angry, you just take it out on the dude in front of you. Right. You know, you do it out on the street, you go to jail, but then you're applauded for it. You know, it's a modern-day gladiators.

SPEAKER_06: 34:20

It is. Yeah, right. And I had a player tell me one time I asked him, I said, uh, is Tyler Davis plays for Haley. You know, they're well once there, I think they moved him to tackle and D-Tackle. He's only a sophomore. I asked him at Daisy More. I said, Why do you love football? He said, Coach, I can legally assault someone and get away with it.

SPEAKER_04: 34:36

Yeah. Yeah. It's one of the last arenas where you can still be a man.

SPEAKER_06: 34:42

Right. Right. Mm-hmm. Yep. Very true. So do you know uh your future the schedule for next year football schedule?

SPEAKER_04: 34:51

Um, I don't think anything's uh been released. I don't think there's any any major changes to it. Um said it goes on two-year, four-year cycles. Um but I'm sure we'll know soon. You know what I mean? If there are any updates or anything.

SPEAKER_06: 35:04

So big game, definitely you're probably playing Turner Ashby again.

SPEAKER_04: 35:07

Yeah, Broadway.

SPEAKER_06: 35:09

Broadway.

SPEAKER_02: 35:10

I saw their schedule. They're out of conference games, is Turner, Ashby, Martinsburg, Hanley, and Verena.

SPEAKER_05: 35:17

Listen to this.

SPEAKER_04: 35:20

I mean, I might have taken that this year. I don't know about next year.

SPEAKER_06: 35:26

Yeah, Verena, I think we're gonna.

SPEAKER_04: 35:29

No, he's a junior.

SPEAKER_06: 35:30

Oh, so he's only a junior. Oh, okay, so he'll be back.

SPEAKER_02: 35:33

Okay, you got Cage coming again. Let's go. Yep, he'll be back.

SPEAKER_04: 35:36

Quincy will be back. Damn, I'll be all right. We got we got some players on the back. We're gonna be we're gonna be in the mix for sure. Quincy Williams come back. Yeah, you need to lose in losing 17, 18 seniors. That's that's a big deal. I mean, shoot out.

SPEAKER_05: 35:53

Dude, yeah, they're losing.

SPEAKER_02: 35:58

But that is a lot of senior basketball players and 30-something football players. But the funny thing about football is their best player didn't even play. And he's only in 10th grade.

SPEAKER_06: 36:07

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 36:09

I think I was at the game with uh two years ago against Surando. Yeah, Sharando.

SPEAKER_06: 36:15

Right. Yeah. Well, he's swimming now, which is good. He's on the swim team. So that really, which is nice, you know, rehabilitating that leg and stuff. So that was a smart move on his part. Absolutely smart move for anybody's part, these swimming is I mean, that'll test the limit, man. Right, right. And he and he finished what second in his first meet, first ever swimming. So I was like, he's just a pure athlete, he's a stoic.

SPEAKER_04: 36:42

No, I I always I always thought of myself as an athlete until I did my first triathlon, and then I got in the water, and I'm 60, 70 year old dude just scooting past me in the water. It's a different animal.

SPEAKER_06: 36:56

Yeah, you got humbled that day, right? Yeah. The triathlon is no joke.

SPEAKER_02: 37:02

The water was the first part for you, right?

SPEAKER_04: 37:05

The yeah, so the the water you you swim, then you run, then you bike. Yeah, yeah. So and it was in open water. So I I was out, um, I was an army recruiter in New York City. So we did them out in Long Island, um, out in open water. And so swimming in open water, it's not like a pool, you know what I mean. Like dealing with with the waves and and everything. Um, and that's when I learned the story of like uh um what's the movie? Jaws. It was based off of like mom talk out there, like that's like a great white breeding ground or something out there.

SPEAKER_02: 37:43

Oh you was way out in the southern you was right out in the end of the island.

SPEAKER_06: 37:50

Jeez. No, he got hampered. I'll pass. Yeah, the handle. I'll pass. Right, I'll I'll pass.

SPEAKER_04: 37:57

Yeah, that's why I said after that. I ain't going anymore.

SPEAKER_06: 38:01

It's like I just stick to coaching now. That's it. Yeah, that's right. My butt back to Virginia. Right, right. Well, Jason, hey, man, it's great to have you on discussing you know Strasburg and the football teat. You know, and it it's real good stuff. Proud of you guys, man. We always want to give everybody their flowers, the local area, root for all the local teams and these kids. But hey, hey, go, hey, go get it, go get it next year. Repeat.

SPEAKER_04: 38:26

Right. Well, I I hope we can be celebrating some other teams in the area next year, too, man. Uh, like I said, you know, before there's a ton of talent in this area. Um, you know what I mean? That's just we gotta put it all together. Um represent for the valley. Right, right.

SPEAKER_02: 38:42

Yeah, you can't tell Big Jeff I said, what's up, man? And let's go, Rams, and basketball. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01: 38:47

That's right.

SPEAKER_02: 38:48

That's right.

SPEAKER_01: 38:48

We'll get it.

SPEAKER_06: 38:49

Hey, hey, maybe, maybe I'll I because I ski I'd play uh play head, you know, head coach at Day Jamore. Maybe we have to schedule a game between each other. But you all start now, don't you, right?

SPEAKER_04: 38:59

Yeah, yeah. So we're a little different. I think you gotta start earlier.

SPEAKER_06: 39:02

No, we play we start after that. They moved our season a couple years ago because they say lack of officials. So, you know, high so we don't start until uh February, late January, early February is our first game. Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 39:16

We started we started, I was I was running from football practice to basketball practice, probably about for the last month.

SPEAKER_06: 39:24

Right. To both, yeah. Well, you're a busy man.

SPEAKER_02: 39:28

That's only what happens when you're a state champion.

SPEAKER_06: 39:31

Right. All right.

SPEAKER_02: 39:32

Like if the season ends around.

SPEAKER_06: 39:34

And when do y'all when do y'all get your state rings? When do those come in?

SPEAKER_04: 39:38

I'm not sure how long that'll take. Um I know we've had we've had uh like we had back to back to back state wrestling champions like the last three out of four years. I was trying to remember how long it took for them to get it, but I think it's probably five or six months, maybe. It's a while.

SPEAKER_06: 39:54

Wow, geez, so basically until the next football season starts.

SPEAKER_04: 39:58

Pretty much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 40:00

Right. And did you guys have a parade for the the team in Charlesburg? Did they have something?

SPEAKER_04: 40:09

That evening from Salem, I mean our streets were lined with people. Got okay. All the way down Holiday Street was lined, and we got down to the school. I mean, there's thousands of people down there. It felt like like everybody's jackets. I mean, you had grown 50, 60-year-old men crying, hugging our players, you know, thank you.

SPEAKER_06: 40:28

Nice.

SPEAKER_02: 40:29

But that's the first state championship ever for the football team, right?

SPEAKER_04: 40:33

First ever. First ever. See how much that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_02: 40:38

You're damn right 50 and 60 and 70 year olds down there hugging the time.

SPEAKER_04: 40:41

Yeah. Right. You know what I mean? Like, it was big. These kids don't understand what they like. Hopefully they understand sooner than later, you know, kind of what they've done for everybody. You know, and we were all that age at one time. They're probably like, you know, oh, this is great and all, but you know what I mean? Let's go to Taco Bell. But I think, I think, you know, here here very soon it's gonna it's gonna sink in.

SPEAKER_06: 41:08

Right, right. Hey man, but Jason, love having you on, man. Come on anytime. We shoot the shit anytime, man. Yep. Hey, some good luck.

SPEAKER_02: 41:18

We wish you the best, man. Happy holidays to you and your family and everything.

SPEAKER_04: 41:22

Hey, thank you. You as well.

SPEAKER_02: 41:23

The whole program, all the coaching staff and the kids, man. Congratulations from Winchester and Hanley uh alumni. That it ain't it ain't about where we're from, man. Like he said, it's about all of us, but you guys did it, man.

SPEAKER_01: 41:34

So thank you.

SPEAKER_02: 41:35

You guys deserve all your flowers. Now y'all go have a great Christmas. And if you guys need some extra presents, just holler at Hanley. They owe y'all.

SPEAKER_06: 41:43

All right, Jay. Appreciate it. Thank you. Merry Christmas. Yep. Merry Christmas, man. Appreciate you.

unknown: 41:48

Yep.

SPEAKER_02: 41:48

All right, guys.

SPEAKER_06: 41:50

All right. Hey, there's Jason Gutierrez, man, of Stralsburg, Chris. That's good stuff, man. Give him their flowers. Stralsburg did their thing this year.

SPEAKER_02: 42:01

Yeah. I know I like to cut ass and talk a lot of shit. Hey, Winchester, all my people, man. Zach, Coach Dixon, whoever, the football coach Smith.

SPEAKER_06: 42:10

And you are good for talking a lot of shit, Chris.

SPEAKER_02: 42:13

End of the day, Strasburg can back it up right now. Zayden Burks can back it up. Certain people and certain teams can back theirs up, man. Right. But I'm gonna tell you who can back it up, and it's Amari. It's Javon. It's Kyron. And it's definitely Christian. It's our Zay and Keon and Jameer. It's the seniors over there, man, at Hamley. I don't want no excuses from nobody about Will going down. We said it before the show, it's unfortunate, but how you next man make you who you are? And Hamley's been there for four years in a row with the seniors, not with just Will, because Will wasn't there as a s to be a senior with them. Let's go get it done, man. J Von, Amari, y'all got let's turn up, Zach. You know what time it is, man. Let them play. And not to be funny, man. Y'all know the truth. And I'm not saying it because Tony, my people, and Christian, my nephew. Y'all better get that young man the ball to get 25-30 a game, and then the rest of y'all just go get 1020 a game. Like, oh, how can we all get that? Because y'all are a bunch of dogs. Get busy. Let's go.

SPEAKER_06: 43:11

I agree.

SPEAKER_02: 43:12

We just had their coach on. We want to have Zach on at the end of this. Right. Not no runners up no more.

SPEAKER_06: 43:19

We don't get runner-ups on here anymore. We want champions.

SPEAKER_01: 43:23

Yeah, hey, what's going on?

SPEAKER_06: 43:25

Hey, but let's give some quick, you know, shout outs. Let's shout out uh Isaac Carter for committing to Mary Washington University.

SPEAKER_02: 43:32

Oh, yeah, Big Mike's son.

SPEAKER_06: 43:34

Yeah, Big Mike's. So Isaac, congratulations on that. You know, because he's committed to Mary Washington University.

SPEAKER_02: 43:42

So that's big time, man.

SPEAKER_06: 43:44

Yeah, good, good stuff. Isaac's a great kid, man. Good kid. And uh what else we got? Who else do we want to shout at? There was somebody else that uh oh uh Hassan Akabi.

SPEAKER_02: 43:57

Yeah, he's part of military school.

SPEAKER_06: 43:59

Yeah, down in uh Georgia, right?

SPEAKER_02: 44:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06: 44:03

He's transferring. Let me let me let me make sure. Yes, here we go. So he's going to Georgia Military College for football. So congrats to him too. Done because he was killing it at Lackawanna. He was running over everybody.

SPEAKER_02: 44:20

That's another thing. That's another thing to everybody out there, man. It's not where you where you're from or where you're at, it's where you end up at. And and it's not like go to the NFL, man. He's that talented.

SPEAKER_06: 44:30

Right, it's not how you start, it's how you finish, right? That's what these kids gotta remember. Don't sleep on the city.

SPEAKER_02: 44:34

Stephen Daly, Stephen Daly probably going to the league. And we got a lot of kids in the area still in high school that might go to the league, but right. It's like go. I ain't putting pressure on none of these kids. It's just it's just the truth, man, and I wish them the best.

SPEAKER_06: 44:47

Right. Yep. So it's like you say, don't sleep on you know, JUCO, D3, prep school.

SPEAKER_02: 44:56

I saw Steve Francis playing JUCO.

SPEAKER_06: 45:01

If you can play you young athletes, student athletes for any on any level, do it. Do it. It's not D1 or bust all the time. So yeah, Chris.

SPEAKER_02: 45:15

A kid just got a uh football offer from Shenandoah. One of our kids.

SPEAKER_06: 45:20

Oh, yeah. I see meant that that's why I got you, Chris. We can't for uh Mason Savage.

SPEAKER_02: 45:26

Yep, and he's more than a savage, he's a motherfucking beast.

SPEAKER_06: 45:30

So Mason Savage. Yeah, Shenandoah University.

SPEAKER_02: 45:36

Yeah, people sleep all you want. That's still football, and it's a school. And if people didn't live in the in the hometown where we're from, well, all I say is somebody called Shenandoah.

SPEAKER_06: 45:44

Uh shoot, all tell these kids is hey, use use your talents to get a free education. You know, or cut down at least to get an education.

SPEAKER_02: 45:53

I'm gonna tell y'all the opposite, not really the opposite, but man, if you can go and play college football or basketball, whatever, swimming, anything, go do it, enjoy the experience. Right, go into nine-to-five kind of life a little bit longer and enjoy, man. And fuck the education. Just go have fun, man. Enjoy your stop being serious because they teach us a bunch of bullshit. Well, yeah, I I can maybe that's more in high school, middle school, but you guys know what I'm saying, man. Like, in reality, most people I know that graduate from college have no job in that field. Yeah, it depends on what you're doing. I'm not shit on nobody with degrees and working on shit right now. But that just be, man. I'm being honest. Like, we it's 2025, almost 2026. We know what's happening in life. If you got that chance, like Tony said, go take it, go have fun in college, man. Enjoy it. I went to college and look, I am who I am, but my life, my whole life changed since I went to college.

SPEAKER_06: 46:47

Very good.

SPEAKER_02: 46:47

Hey, you made my first semester. I went and I played college basketball.

SPEAKER_06: 46:51

You made a lot of friends, right?

SPEAKER_02: 46:52

Look, we played D1 school and we lost. East Tennessee State, down in uh Johnson, Tennessee. And our best player on the team, rest in peace, D Brown. He scored 28 and it's killing him. And their coach came over after the game and was trying to get him to come to their school. He was like, What the fuck are you doing at this small school? Because we got Lynchburg, we got Lynchburg County, which is now the University of Lynchburg, but nah, yeah, man, you just never know where you can end up.

SPEAKER_06: 47:20

Nope. Never know, man. But Chris, hey, enjoy it, man. We're going on a little hour here, but everybody, you know, find us on, you know, you can find Brothers with Opinions on YouTube. Please subscribe, you know, to our YouTube channel. We're on Facebook, Instagram, all that stuff, all them platforms. Please subscribe. Hey, and support. You know, we appreciate everybody's trying to make this bigger and better. Hopefully, get a studio one day. Uh, we'll do this full time. So everybody, please please support. You can go and donate money, whatever, to BWO, because it ain't free. All of these platforms we got, we pay money out of our own pocket, right?

SPEAKER_02: 48:00

Yeah, man. In the meantime, man, for those of you that don't tune back in this Wednesday to see our holiday special, man. You guys have a great holiday. We're doing Wednesday. Hey, look, uh, you know, I'm not gonna hide it from the people. You know what time it is. You the Grinch, right? Show them that coffee mug real quick.

SPEAKER_06: 48:16

Oh, yeah, right here.

SPEAKER_02: 48:20

And I would I would lift my leg up, but I'm not trying to move the phone all crazy anymore. Hey, Chris, I'm fine.

SPEAKER_06: 48:26

Hey, I'm fine with that. If I can find time on Christmas Eve to do a little ever, we can do that. That's fine with me. Maybe we'll come over something.

SPEAKER_02: 48:34

We'll do it at like 4:30, 5 o'clock in the afternoon, man, with some eggnog and just hit y'all with a couple things real quick, man, and uh we'll go from there. But nah, man, you guys enjoy your week. Happy holidays to everybody that doesn't find tuck, man. We love y'all anyway.

SPEAKER_05: 48:48

All right, everybody.

SPEAKER_06: 48:49

Enjoy and shout out to Jason for coming on, man.

SPEAKER_02: 48:52

That was a lot of fun, man. Shout out to all the Rams, and and like we say, real good dude.

SPEAKER_06: 48:58

All right, everybody. Thanks for tuning in to BWU. We'll see everybody next time.

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