From Gym Class To Generations: Ms.Shelly Lee’s Mission For Pools, Ice, And Play

A beloved PE teacher with a coach’s grit and a neighbor’s heart, Miss Shelly Lee joins us to share how a lifetime of movement turned into a citywide mission: build two indoor pools and two ice rinks so every kid can swim, skate, and thrive. From teaching line dances to launching teams, she shows how play unlocks confidence, health, and community—and why water safety should be as standard as math class.

We dive into the 2 For 2 Foundation’s plan, the surge in demand for lessons, and the reality of aging facilities that can’t serve a growing region. Miss Lee breaks down what’s working—6,000+ kids receiving lessons since 2022 thanks to donations and grants—what’s missing, and why land access is the pivot that unlocks construction. She makes a compelling case for equity: city fifth graders ride buses to swim class, while county kids are left out. Pools aren’t luxuries; they’re public safety tools, rehab centers, and training grounds for athletes from football to figure skating.

Expect vivid memories from decades of coaching: first teams finding their form, football players learning to sprint in the water, and a once-sidelined student asking to play for the first time. We talk line dancing as an invitation to move, early hip-hop beats that brought kids together, and the mentors who shaped a generation. If you care about youth sports, drowning prevention, mental health, or simply giving families a place to play year-round, this story will move you to action.

Help us make it real: support the Two For Two Foundation, share the episode, and tell local leaders why Winchester needs two pools and two rinks. Subscribe, leave a review, and tag a friend who learned to swim at Jim Barnett Park—then join us in building the next chapter.

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Welcoming Miss Lee

SPEAKER_00 0:41

It's always great to see you too.

SPEAKER_04 0:43

I always back. Okay. We're back. We're live now, Miss Lee. We're live now. Oh, you want here in a little bit. All right, Chris, go ahead. Do you want to introduce who we have today?

SPEAKER_03 0:54

Excited. Just jumped on the show, and uh we appreciate everybody tuning in. I know you guys are excited because we have the one and only Miss Shelley Lee. And some of us have known her from the 70s and 80s, and others that we're talking to now, that's Quincy's son and his friends. I mean, uh Tony's son, Quincy, and his friends. They're like, oh, Miss Lee was my teacher. And I'm like, wow. Because Miss Lee, you were my teacher at quarrels in 88, 89. No, not quarrels. I was um Daniel Morgan. I was Daniel at that time. You trained me to run around the entire block of quarrels. Hey, actually, I was. Maybe you were helping or substituted at the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Oh, substitut. Okay. Okay. So she was just starting out there. Because I was Virginia Avenue. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

Everybody that remembered. Well, I went to Virginia Avenue, that was like 1985-86. So that was very early in my in my school.

SPEAKER_04 1:54

Chris, I'm glad you're good with numbers because I can't remember the years.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

Well, I just go by decades.

SPEAKER_04 1:58

Right. Yeah, and more, right?

SPEAKER_03 2:00

But you've you've helped so many of us,

A Lifelong Calling To Teach Play

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Ms. Lee, from the 80s all the way up until like we're talking about from little Patrick Burks and Quincy Dengis and all these kids that are like, oh, that was my gym teacher. You've been amazing since then. It's not just about gym, but your actual heart and care for young people. We appreciate you, and we want to give you your flowers, and we want you to have your time to speak. So if you're gonna first introduce yourself and tell the people who you are, and the the ones that don't know who you are, which are probably far away, but this is Miss Lee, everybody.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Well, hi everybody, and this is really an honor. And I'm I'm like uh so humbled that you wanted me to to get on and and speak about, you know, um, I gotta take my glasses off. Um about the love of of being able to to motivate uh kids to love life and play and and enjoy uh being with all all kinds of kids and all age kids. And I I love seeing adults getting out there and playing too. That's a you know, life should be fun. And I believe in, hey, you work hard, you get to play hard. And that's what we do. We we try to do that, and um uh that's why um you know I I would have taught maybe a little bit longer than 45 years, but that the darn computer stuff is a little bit too.

SPEAKER_04 3:30

We're with you on that, trust me.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

But uh I I love you know seeing you know students, uh past students like you guys give back to the community and care about all these people with you know your your hoop love. Um every year, you how many years have you been doing that?

SPEAKER_03 3:48

I did it for four years. This year, unfortunately, we didn't get to do it because I had some issues going on, but I'm gonna continue it and I have it, I have a different thing going on with it. But yes, it's always like being a four. We play it up, we plan on bringing that back. That's helped taught us and trained us how to be like those people, and you've shown the way and you've led by example, and we appreciate you so much. So, this is all about you getting your flowers tonight.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Oh gosh. Well, if you can help me get swimming for all and uh swim pools that everybody gets to learn to swim in gym class, that's what I'd

Giving Back And Hoop Love

SPEAKER_01 4:23

love. Right now, um, I am getting to teach the whole fifth grade of Daniel Morgan. Um, if if the uh if the parents sign the permission slip, they either bust over to the indoor pool at Jim Barnett Park, and I teach them swimming. They're um if they already know how to swim, I give them a workout. And um uh if they don't know how to swim, it might they're not Olympic champions, but they can get down the pool, they can be able to jump in in deep water and be safe and have fun. So field day can be fun for them.

SPEAKER_04 4:54

Right, right, right. That's that's amazing. So, where did when did your teaching journey start? Let's go way back.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

Okay, I started I came here from uh Wymissing, Pennsylvania, fresh out of college, and uh well no, I actually was still in college, but um I came here in 74 to teach, and Daniel Morgan had just opened, and Miss Martha Crispin and I uh were baby teachers together. She was at Hanley, and and um I was at Daniel Morgan, and I think um Jim Barnett and Danny Lee got me my job at Daniel Morgan uh two weeks before. And I have to give kudos to you. Danny Lee thought the world of you, Chris. Uh he and Mike Thompson used to officiate you down at the armory in basketball.

SPEAKER_04 5:40

Oh, old armor.

SPEAKER_03 5:42

He can probably tell you stories because I'm not familiar with the name, but now I appreciate that, but he can probably tell you stories how they had to deal with me. I was kicked out of games at a little age and everything else. And

Swimming For All, Not Some

SPEAKER_03 5:55

but they saw a lot in you. Well, that's but that's a great story. Like, no lie, I really think whoever that gentleman is you just spoke about, that that's amazing, and thank you, sir, because I was in trouble and I was just unequipped to handle life at that age, but that's why I needed people like Miss Lee, Miss Christman, and and Miss Partlow to help me along the way. And Miss Lee, you your story is so many people have left messages for you today, and we really want you to get your flowers because you deserve them. Like you don't understand how many lives you've impacted and you've touched in a positive way.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

Well, it's touched me, it's been my life. I always say this is my social life, being with the kids and and going to all the events. Uh and coaching, whenever you coach, that's like your second family. I mean, you're living and being with those kids, and whether it's co-ed, a co-ed team or um just a girls' team, or you follow the boys' team, you just love them. And um, your heart goes out to them, win or lose. You're uh you're you feel for them. And um knowing knowing that they know that I care about them makes me feel good.

SPEAKER_04 7:06

Right. Right. Now, I was gonna touch on that now. What was your coaching journey? What all did you coach?

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Well, Daniel Morgan started uh girls cross country, girls track, girls basketball. Um we had a gymnastic club, we had um intramurals, um, and that wasn't coaching, but you know, we we did that. Um uh but and I did I I did cheerleading too. I had the cheerleaders in the back and uh girls basketball team in the front, that was fun. Right um and I assisted one one year um with uh Coach Jackson boys basketball and wrestling. I I was there one year, but um uh yeah, all the sports.

SPEAKER_04 7:54

It was yeah, I'm like, yeah, what what didn't you do? And then football?

SPEAKER_01 7:58

I would have. I love football. Oh yeah, and s I coach swimming for Hanley. I was we started the Hanley High School swim team.

SPEAKER_04 8:05

Oh, so you and that's my first that's my first love. Gotcha. Okay, okay. Look, Dunn lost Chris, he'll jump back on. So yeah, your coaching journey. So now let's speak on, let's just jump right at you know, your two for two foundation, the big swim, because it has ice skating too, right? Right

Origin Story: From 1974 To Now

SPEAKER_04 8:21

as a part of it.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

Um the two for two foundation really started back right after COVID um 2021. And we we saw some of us uh retired teachers, we saw the need for um more indoor pools, right, right uh, so that everybody, all the schools could be involved. And hockey, ice hockey is big in this area, and all the money's going out out of our town, outside. We could have ice hockey right here. We have um inline hockey uh over at Jameswood Middle School, but um figure skating and ice hockey are are big sports, and it's a family thing too that you can do. Um so we really want to, and it's uh it's a scientific fact that the water and ice go together, and financially it really uh is worth it. So we're trying to to work on um we're still trying to to get two indoor pools and two ice rinks. Um preferably in Jim Barnett Park, but if it's in Freverie County, in Middletown or wherever, uh we'd all be we'd all benefit from it.

SPEAKER_04 9:28

Right, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

And uh that's the thing with swimming, you can from cradle to the grave, you can keep swimming. Right. And um, right the physical therapy of the pool really helps people, basketball players can get their legs and back back into shape if they just float in the pool.

SPEAKER_04 9:48

Right. Hey, I mean, I've said, you know, uh swimming's a great exercise, you know, a total body exercise. Yeah, go ahead, Chris. I think you're here now. We can hear you now.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

No, I was just gonna say, if you ladies and gentlemen hear that, look, let's go get these two pools and let's make this thing happen for Miss Lee in the community. Because I'm gonna be honest, my favorite sport is swimming, and people think that I'm a fish whenever we go to the beach. No, they they get nervous sometimes, they're like, we can't see you because you go so far out, and I'm always like, Yes, let's go to those big ships within the ocean. And until I get scared of sharks, Miss Lee, I try to come back, but I'm like, I could not race them. But you love those community, and if we can get some pools in the community, because I'm surprised there's still the indoor pool at Gym Ronette Park. And when I was young, they had a weight room with like two or three weights in there. Maybe maybe it was five six, but that was in the beginning when you first walked into the gym. And for you to still have that, but still need help. Let's let's get that community help. Let's help Ms. Lee. She's helped all of us, ladies and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_01 10:52

So we're thank you. Right.

SPEAKER_03 10:53

Let's do what we can do, whether it's through Ms. Lee and her foundation, and what is it, two for two? Right.

SPEAKER_01 11:00

Two for two means two indoor pools and two ice rinks. And um uh and I was telling Tony, um, we we've had paid for over 6,000 people, 6,000 kids to have swimming lessons since um 2022 and um or 2023.

SPEAKER_03 11:17

With a lot of kids.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Two or three years, yeah. Yeah, right. And and there's no um there's no red cross free learn to swim anymore. So swimming costs money to just like everything else, but it should it should be in public schools so that everybody gets a chance to have it, to learn to swim. Um and that would be wonderful. And we have um um uh um we're affiliated with

Coaching Across Eras And Sports

SPEAKER_01 11:45

um the community foundation of northern Shenandoah Valley. Donations could be made there. Um people have donated so much money for swim lessons. Um, and the our our consultant, she's she's gotten, she's um received so many grants, like she's brought in thousands of dollars with her grant writing, so we're lucky there. And we did try to do a world record and raised a hundred thousand dollars back in, I guess, twenty twenty-three. But uh, and we would raise more if we knew if we had the land, people would donate more to getting these facilities. We're still trying to get the land.

SPEAKER_04 12:24

Yeah, the land is a problem.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

We don't want to buy the land, we want we want to be able to support a public um we uh uh a public place like um we have we're a public non-profit um uh uh mission um project. So, anyways.

SPEAKER_04 12:43

So so what was the plan going back? You know, when you I guess you guys proposed it to I guess Winchester Park and Rec. So what was the initial plan, like to build a whole new facility or use what the existing indoor park? This the pool, I should say.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

The the city pool, the outdoor pool that Jim Barnett had such a vision to have a 50-meter pool, it's it's on it, it's old. It was built in 1968, right? So, you know, it might not last too long. And the indoor pool was built in 1978, and we helped raise money. The life I was a lifeguard then, and Jim Barnett, the director of the pool, told us you gotta talk to these. You he basically said you gotta schmooze the politicians, and we did, right, and we got the indoor pool, but those two pools, um, they're we don't know how long they're gonna last. So we'll we would keep them till the others would get built up there.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

Um we gotta build them soon then. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Well, I'm living long enough to see it happen, so she's it's I can handle it.

SPEAKER_04 13:46

Right. But what she's not going anywhere until she sees it happen.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

We gotta help make it happen. So, ladies and gentlemen, hey, that's what we're here for. That's why she's on to put mostly and help the the cause for the community. Look, that's what it's about. And honestly, though, when you think about some of the best athletes of all time, most of their important training, you guys might not realize it, but it comes from being in the water and and swimming techniques, and it builds their strength and their endurance up more than you may ever know, but it's because of the water and the pools and everything else. So you know, I go ahead, Mr.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

Oh, I was gonna say my favorite commercial is Shaquille and O'Neill racing my uh Michael Phelps. Oh that is a and he's got the he's got the you know the the tight swim trunks on and all that kind of stuff. Right. And he looked, he was really good. He did a good job. So Michael Phelps is the GOAT. Yeah, he is.

SPEAKER_04 14:46

Yes, he is, that'd be right.

SPEAKER_03 14:49

We've even written you've helped train so many phenomenal young athletes, and maybe they came under your shadow in your wings.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 14:58

There's a lot of great athletes and a lot of people in the community who have been showing you a lot of love lately on the Facebook post and everything else about the show tonight. And we might not be able to speak about all of them, but I know there's so many people from the late 80s all the way through to 2000s that I've seen comments and messages come through tonight or yesterday about you.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

Oh thank you. Well, I'll tell you, all the people that have come into my life through teaching and coaching. I mean, the memories I have keep me going forever. And um, I always want to be around, be able to help kids and and families to enjoy life and be healthy and f I'm not saying you don't have to be the uh superstar athlete, but just make sure you're healthy and uh keep going.

SPEAKER_04 15:45

Right, right. And I and I've always said, like Chris said, I was a when I think of you as it's energetic and always smiling, like Miss Lee is always smiling and positive, you know. Always, always. But yeah, what you do for the community and the swimming is a great in the ice skating, even I didn't even know ice skating was a big thing here. Being I guess South Virginia, you know, but uh how can people get into it again, you know? Well do you guys have like registration and stuff like that to sign up?

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Yeah, well, the the only hockey thing that we have here is uh um

Two For Two Foundation Vision

SPEAKER_01 16:24

uh what is it called top the top of Virginia hockey. The Capitals, the ice hockey team capitals actually gave us, gave um the ice hockey people here $100,000 to build that capitals then? Yes. Oh, wow. And it's at Jameswood Middle School. Um it's where the old tennis courts are. They're playing right now.

SPEAKER_04 16:43

Oh, okay. I just didn't even know that.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

Yeah. But again, it's not real ice, but those kids go to Hagerstown and to Leesburg and all these other places to play. Um and the figure skaters go out of town too. But I know growing up, we I mean, in the wintertime, that was the big thing. Your whole family went out there. Right. I used to shovel the ice uh on this pond, so they'd let me play ice hockey with the boys. But it was it was so fun. But it's it's um it's another thing for mental health, mental and physical health with families, everything. It's a great, great thing. Right. And uh with with the swimming, there shouldn't, there's absolutely no excuse for people to drown anymore.

SPEAKER_04 17:26

Oh, I agree, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

We have to stop, we have to prevent drowning by teaching uh everyone to swim.

SPEAKER_04 17:32

Yeah, and like is it back to again when you're starting with the fifth grade now in the school?

SPEAKER_01 17:37

The fifth grade com comes over in the um the indoor pool, the Winchester Parks and Wreck have been wonderful, letting them swim, and they have the fourth graders come over with inner murals, so all all the elementary city kids. But the county doesn't get any of that.

SPEAKER_04 17:52

Oh, so they don't so it's just for city kids right now? Okay. All right, and that's great. I gotta get my son in he's in third grade right now.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

Oh, we'll sign him up next year.

SPEAKER_04 18:03

We'll get him out as soon as possible.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

That sounds great.

SPEAKER_04 18:06

Yeah, we used to have a pool in our yard, but that's how our boys learned. I just threw them in there.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

Well, some kids you can do that with, but right. Most most people, uh it's not advised to do that.

SPEAKER_04 18:19

We we can't do that anymore as child abuse friends. But not the way we used to learn, just throw you in the water and survive. Yep, I get it. Chris, what's going on with you, man? Your connection, you keep on it off, on it off. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 18:35

Unfortunately, just like Ms. Lee, like I'm not so great with technology at times, and I just realized I should have charged my phone.

SPEAKER_04 18:42

Oh boy. See?

SPEAKER_03 18:45

Oh but it's cool. I'm back. And I learned how to swim off the had dive in 1988 at uh Winchester Parks and Wreck at Jim Barnett because when I grew up in the Evans home, they took us to the pool. I went up there as a little mischievous kid, mischievous kid, all the way up top. And when the time of the the kids, the older kids in the Evans home was yelling, oh look, that's little Chris up there. I jumped off. They tried to come save me, but look, I doggy paddled all the way to the typo. I told them I could swim, which it was a lot, but they made me swim back and forth. They made me swim back and forth.

SPEAKER_04 19:26

Well, you're a brave soul, I guess. Didn't know that's one, but still jumped in there.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Hey, I did it. They they said swim back and forth and live the pool twice. I did it, and next thing you know, I was able to go deep in my whole life, and I just loved swimming.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

Honestly, I really wish we would have had swimming as a team when I was in school. Yeah, it we didn't get a swim team until 1997.

SPEAKER_04 19:49

That's how at hand say it, don't say it, Chris. Here it comes.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

Look, what do you say? Tony graduated in '97, so we could have actually been a part of it, but we would have been great.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Yeah, see. We started with the first team. We had four football players on the team. Right. And uh uh it was it was it was great. They could sprint, they could do what you did. It wasn't doggy paddle, but they went as fast as they could, up and back, and that's all they could give me. But they did it.

SPEAKER_05 20:21

Right.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

Actually, you're talking about Ms. Martha Christman. Sarah Christman said to say hi and that she loves you, and you're one of her favorite people ever.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

She's she's my girl. I just love her, and I'm so glad she's teaching. She teaches fourth grade at John Kerr, and she gets she organizes the swimming intermurals from John Kerr. So it's great.

SPEAKER_03 20:41

Oh, so she's in the Winchester community. That's a good job. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

Yep, that's what's neat. When people come back to and like you guys, and you give back, but whether you're teaching or coaching, it's wonderful. I didn't know.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

Well, I'm gonna be honest, the first year of Hoops for Hope, I wasn't sure that I would be able to pull it off. I was confident because that's who I am. But to see you, Miss Christman, and Miss Partlow come that first year, that set me on fire as like so motivated, so happy and thrilled. I I couldn't believe you three ladies came and I was like, wow. Oh, we thought we were gonna be able to do it. It really made my event feel so super special, besides the other reasons for the the players and the people. But see, we'll get you out there a coach next year.

SPEAKER_04 21:30

Oh, when we do see just being the coaches for the boys. Right,

Health, Therapy, And Water’s Power

SPEAKER_04 21:37

right.

SPEAKER_03 21:37

Oh, yeah, a lot of people came the first year.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

Well, it's always fun to be around people who have the heart have such heart for for our our community and for our kids, everything.

SPEAKER_03 21:51

Um that's why Tony and I do what we do, but out of all the people we've ever had on the show, you deserve your flowers like the most. Oh, well, thank you. Because you gave it to us when we didn't even know what being the leader of myself or having hope was at the time. I'm being honest, Ms. Lee.

SPEAKER_01 22:10

Well, you know what? You guys don't give yourself credit. You can tell you always had heart. You guys had heart and guts to do things, you know. You even though you uh, you know, you weren't taught to have that, you you were you had that inside you, and it it always showed. It'll you know you know, when you'd play basketball or you'd play with the other kids, you went at it hard, and that's what we love.

SPEAKER_04 22:37

So there you go, Chris. So you got your flowers, right?

SPEAKER_03 22:41

No, she no, she needs her flowers all the time. Oh, I know because if we can tell you the comments from people like oh, I can't even remember. So there's so many comments coming in about you, Miss Lee, and how that's because I'm old. Oh, those people grew up either within the four or five years before me and Tony or after us, and like it's amazing to see that like you can you impacted our time frame tremendously.

SPEAKER_04 23:10

Yeah, believe it or not, you did. Well, you did.

SPEAKER_03 23:14

It's really great to hear this. One thing before we move on or get to anything else, because my favorite thing, and I brought it up, is you trained, I remember the the song I remember the most, but you taught us how to line dance. I do the line dance but at an early age of hip-hop when hip-hop became kind of popular with Beastie Boys and Run DMC and stuff in the 80s in the early 90s before hip-hop was still that big, we didn't live, we didn't know Big E and Jay-Z and Miles or none of them yet. You taught us how to line dance to people like Dickabore Planets in a song called I'm Cool Like That? I'm cool like that. And you you had us line dancing and going off. Oh, what made you incorporate line dancing into gym class and and and then moving them towards hip-hop and line dancing? Like, what made you do that at those days?

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Well, I loved line dance. I just thought here that's something that gets everybody moving. It doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl, you don't have to touch each other, but it's it's great movement and coordination. And I don't even I don't even hear words very well. So I love, I just go to the beat of the music, and I thought it just feels good to get out there and do that. And um our Friday line dance days, and I loved it when Mr. Norman and some of the other coaches would be out there.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

Mr. Chambers actually said the same thing. Oh, Mr.

SPEAKER_01 24:34

Chambers helped me out. Yep. The King Tut. Right.

SPEAKER_04 24:38

That's one we gotta get on to is Mr. Norman. We gotta get him out of the woods, I hear. He's in the backwoods somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Yeah, he's living his life. He was one of my favorite teachers, too. And you know what? He deserves flowers, I'll tell you. He's he helped me so much, and he's just I agree, he's one of the all-time best coaches, best people in education.

SPEAKER_04 24:58

I love I love Mr. Norman.

SPEAKER_03 25:00

Yeah, Mr. Norman's actually all of our favorites as the male teacher and uh gym teacher. But Mr. Norman, uh Mr. Chambers and Mr. Coonley said to say hi to you, and and they love you.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Oh, I I had fun with Big E and Mr. Coonley. We had a great staff for it. We we really had had fun.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

That's why we got the best times growing up in those days because it was that was who the teachers were you guys.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

Well, we all could have fun together. That's what was that's what we need to to show the kids that you know uh you don't have to be the best at something. You try to be your best, but you get out there and do it. You don't just watch and and and uh you you get involved.

SPEAKER_04 25:41

Right. So I got a quote. I know you

Facilities, Funding, And The Land Hurdle

SPEAKER_04 25:45

taught a long time, coached a long time. So in teaching, what is one of your biggest memories or accomplishment?

SPEAKER_01 25:52

Teaching-wise first, then we'll get to coaching teaching-wise, um when I I have to say with the with the girls, when a girl who uh was overweight and was was always you know sitting on the sideline, right? Uh she when she finally said, Can I go in and play? I'll never forget that. Uh, that made me feel so good after all the years, she would always stand back and and refuse, but she finally felt comfortable enough to do to get in and join join us.

SPEAKER_04 26:33

Right, yeah, yeah. I get yeah, that's that's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

So now coaching, or was that oh coaching in every every sport you coach, there's there's memories. Oh, I know there's a lot. You know, uh I have to say it's Sarah, Sarah Crispin, uh Waldorf will laugh, but the first year we had our Hanley swim team, those bo those football players, uh the boys, and and they were helping Sarah learn how to dive because she'd have spaghetti legs, she never stretched her legs, right? And we got her, but she was so so good. And those girls, uh well, Sarah and Elizabeth Stevens and um uh Callie Callie Walk and some others, um they stayed with me in swimming. Um, and and it was just it was just a wonderful time. And Leslie, I have to tell Leslie Boyd helped was my assistant, and she was amazing. Um but we we just every sport has has good memories, I have to tell you that.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

Yeah, I know. It's not well who I'm curious, who was the football, the four football players? Okay, well that first year.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Wes Blackwell. Um I don't know. Shout out to Wes. Yeah, I remember Wes Blackwell, um Paul Carpenter. Yeah, uh my boy uh oh my gosh. Um oh, uh he's right at the time, and his mother's on Christine, what's her last name?

SPEAKER_04 28:00

David Burke?

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

Oh look, Chris probably look, Chris, you probably know.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

No, it's Bart. Bart Oh Chazler.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

Bart Chazler. Yes. Yes. Yeah, he was the kid. How do I remember that name? She's like, geez.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

And we had Chris Boyd too, and and we I mean it was we had some really cool kids. And uh are you are you teaching Chris Boyd's uh daughters at all? They don't live here. Oh, Charlotte. They they they I think they live around Richmond. Okay. So they're they're both they're all in sports though, and he coaches. So yeah. But um, you see the impact you've made from far here and far away?

SPEAKER_04 28:42

Well, right, right, yes.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

It's it's just a joy to hear that, and it's and it keeps me going. Um, you know, whenever you whenever you get down because you had tragedies or something in your life, you have all these good things to to lift you up. So and all these good people.

SPEAKER_04 29:00

I am. I'm I'm honored to have I would I was pumped what Chris said you would be on. Oh because we're always afraid people would be like, no, no. But it's like, why not? But I'm I'm honored too you're here. Like, thank you, and so good to see you. You too. You know, you've touched so many people's lives, and it's it's amazing what you do right now, you know, and you're still going. Like I said, you're just to me, you're a bundle of joy. Oh well, thank you. You you motivate me, and I'm sure Chris, you know, at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

Um we gotta keep this motivation stuff going for our the younger generations.

SPEAKER_04 29:38

Exactly. Yep, you're exactly right. So again, you know, we'll we'll in closing, you know, you let everybody know, you know, how they can give, you know, two for your two for two foundation and everything like that. You know, all the info you can give out there.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

Well, we do have we have a website. Um, we're on Facebook, and two for two, it's the number two, and then And uh the word for FOR and the number two, two for two foundation. Uh and it's post office box 1908, Winchester, Virginia, or like just two for twofoundation.org on Facebook if you want to donate or you want to have any questions. Somebody else did that.

SPEAKER_04 30:21

Right, yeah. Well, just make sure you'll get all that info from you too. We'll put it up on our you know Facebook page. That would definitely advertise it for you, you know, help you help you guys out anyway. We can put it out there.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

Oh, that would be great.

SPEAKER_04 30:36

Oh, yeah. Well, we try, Miss, we try. Yeah. So I guess Chris is having technical difficulties. He's on and off, he's off again. But Miss Lee, it was great having you to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

Oh, it's great. Great to be with you. Yes. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 30:49

Like I say, you're a joy to be around, a positive influence on these kids still to this day. Uh and I was what? You taught me when I was 11, 12, something out of the third. The middle school years. Middle school year, whatever number that is, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:03

And I hope you can get Larry Norman.

SPEAKER_04 31:06

Uh hey, well, help us out. Uh I will. Help us out. I would love to have Mr. Norman on.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Out of the blue, I get phone calls. He's uh he'll call. And um uh Ernest Chambers and Patrick

Memories, Mentors, And Team Firsts

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Coonley could help, and Scott Burns is another person who could help.

SPEAKER_04 31:20

Yeah, you got that credit of a try. We gotta get Mr. Norman.

SPEAKER_03 31:24

Everybody would love it. Mr. Burns used to want me to run along this.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

Man, I forgot about Mr. Burns. Oh, I bet. Well, he's I think Mr. Burns, I he might still be coaching.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

Really? Yeah. I forgot all about it because he was my neighbor for a lot on the north side. He lived behind us. Yeah, I forgot all about Mr. Burns.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

And he keeps in touch with with Mr. Norman, too.

SPEAKER_04 31:46

Those two have them both on at the same time. That would be yeah. That would be awesome.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

I haven't seen or heard from Mr. Burns in years, but I talked to Mr. Norman not too long ago, and he's doing great.

SPEAKER_04 31:59

Oh yeah. So you contacted him. But yeah, I'm thanking everybody.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

You you just Mr. Cooley Chamber, those that's my era, and I love him, and that's why we love Miss Lee. Ms. Lee, how to tell all those men was around. Ms. Lee was the one. You were the staple.

SPEAKER_04 32:15

Thank you. You had to keep all them guys in line, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:21

I did. I felt like I was General Lee at the gym stuff. I'm sure you did. Right. I'm sure you did. But I wouldn't have traded it for anything.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

Because just because they were our teachers, they were still boys and they were enough. Like, look.

SPEAKER_04 32:36

They were great. So but Chris and Chloe, I appreciate her being on. And you can join us anytime. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_04 32:46

Anytime. But yeah, just give us that info and we'll put it up on our site. Can I just text it to you? Yeah, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

That'd be great. And tell people to like us on Facebook because that helps us get grant money.

SPEAKER_04 33:01

Okay. The more likes you have. Yeah. Gotcha. All right, everybody. Go like two for two foundation on Facebook. Everybody got that.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

Really proud of you guys. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 33:10

I appreciate it. We're proud of you. Thank you. You're an influence to everybody. Everybody loves you, Miss Lee.

SPEAKER_03 33:17

We really do love you. You deserve your flowers each and every day. And most of us wouldn't be who we are without people like you in our lives, and we appreciate it so much.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Well, I appreciate you too, Chris and Tody. Thank you. You made my month, my year. Oh shoot.

SPEAKER_04 33:35

You're gonna make me blush. But hey, in closing, everybody, uh, you know, go check out Brothers with Opinions, our Facebook page, and subscribe to our YouTube channel as well. And like I said, help Miss Lee for two for two foundation. We'll have that information, you know, up on our page and go, you know, donate and help these kids get swimming lessons on ice skating, too.

SPEAKER_03 33:59

And let's go get these two pools that Winchester needs. Please help the cause. Amen.

SPEAKER_04 34:05

Right. Yeah, but so hey, appreciate you again. Can't say it enough. Thanks. Thanks for joining us, and hey, everybody, tune in next week. All right. All right, thanks, Chris. I'll talk to you shortly.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

All right, you guys, thank you guys. Have a blessed night, Miss Lee. Love you so much. We love you.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

Love you too. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

All right, everybody. Have a good night.

SPEAKER_00 34:24

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