Brothers with Opinions -B.W.O.
Four friends discussing Winchester, VA news and topics. Debating political issues, news, social injustice and anything that is up for debate in our world.
Brothers with Opinions -B.W.O.
Two Hosts Break Down Scores, Call Out Hypocrisy, And Rally The Valley
The night starts with the crackle of hometown football—scores flying in from the Shenandoah Valley, a showdown circled on calendars, and the buzz of a 6'5 playmaker, Christian Dinges suiting up for Handley. We swap streaming notes, argue about strength of schedule, and give flowers to local athletes putting up real numbers. If you love the rhythm of Friday night lights, you’ll feel right at home.
Then we pull back the camera. Who gets public memorials and who gets ignored? Why do some tragedies trend while others barely register? We speak plainly about media incentives, selective outrage, and the cost of treating politics like sport. You’ll hear a live debate on the power of voting—skepticism on national outcomes versus a full-throated case for local ballots—plus a frank look at policing tactics, protest narratives, and how division keeps neighbors from having each other’s backs.
Immigration, labor, and class take center stage as we call out the contradiction of relying on immigrant work while scorning immigrant lives. We connect those dots to global crises, from ceasefires that don’t hold to long-promised files that never seem to see daylight, and ask what accountability looks like when human life is on the line. This isn’t doom-scrolling; it’s an insistence on courage, empathy, and receipts.
We close with NFL picks, early MVP heat, and a few upset alerts, because joy and argument can share a table. If you’re here for real talk that spans the 50-yard line to the front line—without hedging or hollow takes—you’re in the right place. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves sports and straight talk, and drop your take in the comments. What did we get right—or what did we miss?
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What's up, ladies and gentlemen? My brother Tony, you know. So 1v1's good. He's got him some garlic bread or whatever he wanted to snack on. We get this started. Right? 1v1's good now. Just came from practice. You need to eat something.
SPEAKER_03:Right, yeah. Sorry, everybody. I was running a little late. Uh had basketball practice, but we're here. And give me a little time to get my bearings straight and get settled in. Get my coffee. I'm ready to go.
SPEAKER_01:We're gonna get into the football, local football scores from around the area, the Shenandoah Valley, and the uh whatever Tony calls that shit from hey, you gotta show them love too. What's it called?
SPEAKER_03:The panhandle the eastern panhandle. That's what their their conference or region is.
SPEAKER_01:So we're getting all that, the upcoming games. Uh the anticipation for Randy Moss suiting up for Hanley over there. Everybody's hyped for that. Um, and then we're gonna get into a lot of things that's going on because when we have a lot of guests, we don't always you know speak on these things. So we're gonna talk about Mr. Donald and Mr. Charlie and Mr. Netanyahu, and uh, we're gonna speak on Gaza and Palestine and Israel. We're gonna speak on uh digital IDs and people being hung from trees, and that I didn't even mean to make that rhyme. It's just crazy what's happening in life, and most people are scared to speak up. Like Trump, what he he took our uh freedom of speech away today. So we're gonna get into all that, ladies and gentlemen. Get your popcorn ready, man, and let Tony kick it off with this football stuff, and then we'll get into the other thing.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, man, we we're gonna lose a lot of fans or we're gonna gain a lot of fans after tonight's show, is all I gotta say. But honestly, to me, I could give two shits. So we're gonna speak our mind tonight. I'm excited about it. So let's get jump, let's get it out of the way. Because you know, we got football tonight as well. Who's playing?
SPEAKER_01:Uh Philly, Philly and the Giants.
SPEAKER_03:I might go to sleep early on that one. So, all right, let's jump into the uh scores from last week, everyone. Sharando defeated Millbrook 35-14. Brentville over Manassas Park 57 to nothing. Culpepper defeated Falkir 31-15. Liberty beat Warren County 51-8. Dude, Warren County, man, we'll talk. They're bad. Anyway, Skyline and Central. Skyline over Central 42-40.
SPEAKER_01:I heard that was in the I wanted I wanted that for Zaiden and them. And I know Central's pretty good, but look, they they beat him, so that's a good win.
SPEAKER_03:I heard there was like a big fourth quarter comeback because Skyline was up big, I think, and Central made it it. They came back.
SPEAKER_01:They made it a game. Well, they lost. So let's go.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, shout out shout out to you know Zaydan Burks. He killed it, got player of the week or something. You know, he had his breakout game every yeah. For this year, yeah. And then James Wood over Meridian 41 to 22.
SPEAKER_01:See, Wood's good, man. Yeah, what are they five and one?
SPEAKER_03:Well, we'll we'll just we'll discuss that real quick, my opinion on who's good and who's not, because I'll I keep it real. All right, so some people are gonna get their feelings hurt. So uh uh did that with the Clark County lost 48 to nothing.
SPEAKER_01:Has Clark County won this year?
SPEAKER_03:No. No, they dude, I heard that they're bad too. Yeah, it's roughly. I think it that's I think with Clark County is they got a yacht a lot of young players. They lost, you know, everybody they had, so but they're real young as a team. So yeah, that's rough. They're they're 0-5 to I believe 0-4-0-5. So uh West Virginia scores. Martinsburg over Mussman 48-20. Jefferson shut out Hedgesville 49-0. Spring Mills beat Washington 51 to 7. So there you go. Now, let's go on to this week's games. Tomorrow night, you got two winless teams playing each other, Warren County and Manassas Park, both 0-5. And I got Manassas Park the show.
SPEAKER_00:Well, Warren County wins.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I guess we'll see who's the worst best of the worst. Then you got Skyline, Falkier, uh Millbrook and James Woods should be a good one.
SPEAKER_01:We'll uh see whether Millbrook beat Kettle Run.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, yes. And then uh Brentsville and Liberty play. And then tomorrow you have Hanley and Kettle Run. Yeah, or Saturday. Sorry, sorry, yeah. I'm dead about it. So hey, I'm eager for Saturday.
SPEAKER_01:Hanley plays who?
SPEAKER_03:Kettle Run.
SPEAKER_01:Which is who Millbrook had just beat, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, two weeks ago. Nice. Because Millbrook just lost to Sharando. So let's do uh West Virginia, the Eastern Panhandle, you got Morgantown, and Martinsburg, Southern and Washington, Hedgesville, and Albert Galladen, Boone's Boonsboro, I'm gonna say Boonsville, Boonsboro and Musselman. Play. So let's speak on some key games here. My eyes, we'll save the best for last. But let's talk about this Milburg James Wood game.
SPEAKER_01:Have you seen any late this year?
SPEAKER_03:No, I've watched them uh streamed them like on uh my NFHS account and I and I watch them. But um here's my thing. Milburg's three and three. They beat Kettle Roy. Okay. And James Wood they ain't played nobody. In my opinion. They their schedule. They ain't played nobody, even though they're five and one. I I I get that.
SPEAKER_01:They five and one, right?
SPEAKER_03:I think, but honestly, I I feel yeah, they're five and one. But they only lost Sharando who's like five and one. But got destroyed by Sharando, is the thing.
SPEAKER_01:So the thing is And Haley hasn't played either one of them yet, or Millbrook.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, none of them yet, but it's coming.
SPEAKER_01:And I'm gonna show out to Millbrook, man, James Woods, Sharando. I'll always love to root for all the area schools unless y'all play Hanley. And usually y'all haven't played Hanley yet, and um there's Rainy Mosses coming out there, so just in case y'all don't know, and they already got a squad over there. So add a rainy moss to it.
SPEAKER_03:All right, just say it. Who's playing this Saturday?
SPEAKER_01:Hanley versus what, Kettle Run?
SPEAKER_03:But I'm saying player, just let it out.
SPEAKER_01:No, the same thing that'd be dominating and destroying them on the basketball court. That's 6'5. He's a senior now over there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:What's his name? Mr.
SPEAKER_01:Christian Dingis.
SPEAKER_03:So, yes, my son Christian Dingis mixing it.
SPEAKER_01:He came out joined joined the rest of his basketball buddies and and the squad they have. So it should be exciting to see what he can do. It will be his first game, but I still hopefully he go out there and dominate him. Him and the kid they have right now, I just lost his name all of a sudden. But he's Will Yoder, he's been killing.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, Yoder?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they have Yoder with Atari and Washington and everybody else, they should be definitely a problem for everybody in the area, definitely.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I'm not just saying it's because it's my own son, but it definitely boosts their offense big time. Him being outside. No. Which I well, I'd rather him play defense. Because him growing up, he always played defensive end or outside linebacker. I'm like, man, now now you're the perfect size for a D, you know, 6'5 quick.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but I wouldn't want to see Randy Mars play defense either.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Hey, but honestly, this I mean he's played receiver here and there, but he was more because Christian hit that big growth spurt, so he was always like a running back because he, you know, he was one of the shortest kids out there.
SPEAKER_01:And I want to shout out that quarterback, man. To be 5-0 when the odds were stacked against him after Tristan went down, you know, and 7-07 for the season. And Tristan's a star. Tristian's gonna go big places, man. But that quarterback that y'all have over there, Hanley would he's 5-0, man. I I gotta shout him out. And he's playing well, not gonna work, no turn.
SPEAKER_03:But that goes back to my whole thing of there, too. Now Hanley's starting to get into the meat of their schedule. Like, you know, they've had so they gotta play James Wood and Millbrook. So now they get that's what I'm getting at. So now they got the top. That's why they pulled Christian out the wall. Right, right. So that's the thing. They're getting into the meat of that. So we're gonna basically like now mid-season. I'll just leave it there. We're gonna see where everybody stacks up. You know, I mean Shared and James Wood already played. And I thought it would be a closer game because I was like, oh man, I hope James would like gives them a game. But they do have an explosive offense. I heard the the QB of James Wood is nice.
SPEAKER_01:Like he is that receiver that had five catches for five touchdowns and 200 and some yards.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_01:So they got athletes over there right now. Sharando's been great since they came about with Kelly and brother and them. They've always been a good ass program.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, that's what I was gonna say. I was I agree. I was like, Sherando, some even though they've lost coaches and replaced people, they still they're they're well coached, all that, and so and they put in the work. So they're always a solid team, usually. I can't remember that they had like a losing season.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they don't really lose like that.
SPEAKER_03:They don't. But that's what I got for local scores. Like I say, everybody come out there Saturday, watch Christian take you know get out there for his first time.
SPEAKER_01:In the meantime, if you're in the area, go out there and watch some of them other games tomorrow night. It's a lot of area schools playing.
SPEAKER_03:Right. I'm gonna have to go. I'm definitely gonna go to the game tomorrow. I'm going to that I'm I'm going to that Millbrook James Wood game. I'm going out there. I'll be there. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go watch that one. Yeah, I'm gonna see that. We'll see where they're at. But yeah, again, shout out to Zaydon, you know, at his breakout game.
SPEAKER_01:294 yards.
SPEAKER_03:Well, how much?
SPEAKER_01:294.
SPEAKER_03:And he's getting D1 offers too, isn't he?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. We'll keep it under wraps and let him speak on it if he wants to come back on the show again. But yeah, man, him, Tristan. There's a lot of players in the area that just athletes that I know of. I'm sure there's a lot of others, even from James Witt and Sharando and stuff is getting looks, but he's gonna go big time.
SPEAKER_03:I feel he and he's only good, and he's a junior, right? Yeah, he's still only a junior. Yep. I always think he's the same age as my son, but he's a year younger.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, his his father, his pops is my favorite running back ever, and Zaydon is gonna be better, man. He's a beast.
SPEAKER_03:Yep, a lot of good local talent out here.
SPEAKER_01:So, ladies and gentlemen, let's I was gonna say and chopping it up about football, and half of y'all probably don't even know what we're talking about. We'll be like, Chris, don't even live down here. He what's he talking? So let's keep it moving. Let's talk to some other things that's going on, and uh, we can get in. I'll I'll get right into it, man. Charlie fucking Kirk.
SPEAKER_03:That's good.
SPEAKER_01:I don't wish bad on anybody in the world. I don't wish that whatever people believe happened to him happened. I'm just blown away that everybody came out the woodworks, like, oh my god, we gotta have memorials and we gotta do this and that for Charlie Kirk. He didn't even know who the hell he was. Most people didn't know who he was. He spooed all kinds of hate and stuff towards people that you know what I mean. Like, I don't want to hear the Bible stuff and Jesus and all this other stuff. We're talking about this man as an individual and the things he said, they were they were things that were not appropriate, and and he should have been held accountable for saying those those things to and about people of other cultures, races, and people with no money. And then on top of that, Tony, this guy only argued against college-age kids. Right, right, he didn't really debate them, he just tried to belittle them and shit. Right. But and and brainwash them basically. So, not here nor there. I don't wish bad on him. I don't even know if he's dead. There's a whole lot to this and that. We'll get into all that later. But the thing about them even thinking, like, oh, the whole world has to honor him, and they're upset because four of the NFL teams didn't honor them, and all of a sudden, like, there's Memorial League in Winchester with somebody that led that that was on our show before. I'm just like, look, I would love y'all to come on the show and talk to us about like why do y'all think that was necessary? And why did y'all feel such a oh my god, they killed him? You didn't even know who he was, but yet the lady that was killed in Minnesota that was in the in uh Congress or Senate or whatever she was, nobody talked about her. All these black people that's been getting hung recently, nobody talks about them in Holes' memorials. All these kids and people that's innocent and guys have been getting killed for over two years for 70, what, 77 years since the knock but in 1948? But in reality, the most people know about it is since uh two years ago, October 7th, 2023. They've been blowing them up, killing them, and starving them to death, left and right. You guys don't have no remorse or or not remorse, but you don't have no no feelings and no anger about what's happening to them. So I just don't get it. All of a sudden, this one guy got shot in broad daylight in Utah by a kid that grew up with guns in a house.
SPEAKER_03:And I never heard of the fucking guy. And Chris, I'm with you. And I and I'm with you. Like nobody deserves to get shot, you know, speaking your opinion. That's what we fucking do, right? On this show. Like, you know, him debating or whatever. But I'm with you. The man flat out racist, homophobic, all that. And then everybody tries to justify, well, that's not what he was trying to say. What is what what like you know and it goes to Trump too. It's like what society are we in? Where where's America gone? Is what I like it's like you said, why why are we having a memorial for somebody to bet a TikTok or whatever he fucking was? You know what I mean? Like, oh, are we fucking serious? If we're putting flags and half masks because of this this, are you serious? And like you said, like and we got people getting hung and states, you know, kids getting kids kids getting shot. Yeah, kids getting shot, you know, schools getting shot up, this and that. Oh, but we care about this more. And you love this man, he was a god fit. Well, if he was such a god, you know, uh religious man, well then aren't you supposed to love everybody? I you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:Like to me, the fakest people get into, man. But end of the day, I just I Tony, I can't believe you guys had a memorial in Winchester. That that yeah, get on.
SPEAKER_03:Somebody, we live, jump on. I wouldn't know why a memorial fucking Winchester for that dude. I wanted to though it was I wanted to chime in on that, so but I kept my mouth shut, but I'm not keeping it shut now. Like really, we fucking had a memorial for this guy in Winchester, but we weren't the only ones.
SPEAKER_01:No, of course you did. But that's but I'm I mean that's where you're at. Yo, you guys had one of those down there. Yeah, yes. I'm about people probably strip school or whatever. Oh, we gotta go to this Charlie thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but uh it it blows my mind. You and me on a sense like it blows my mind our priorities in this fucking country and the way people heartless.
SPEAKER_01:How heartless about us, all that stuff they saw in the media by them. Only the few families that run all that bullshit media. That's why they're trying to get rid of social media now because they realize it did more than they realize, and that we can see everything, we can hear everything, we can talk to each other at all times. Right, nobody, you guys didn't motherfucking know no Charlie Kirk like that. Most of you didn't. The people that was paying attention was people that's on Instagram and TikTok, and especially those college age kind of kids, like so. For everybody else, like, oh Charlie, like, get out of here. You wouldn't have no memorial. Charlie Sheen was killed. Like, what's going on, man? Yeah, y'all gotta be for real. It's it's division. It's like where they want black versus white, they want rich versus poor, they want Muslim versus Christian. What y'all don't understand is like they did in Nepal recently, they overturned their government, they burned shit down and all that. Guess what? They overturned their government and they elected their first ever woman to be in charge of that country. Italy, they're overthrowing their government right now. But you know why we won't do it in the United States? Because everybody's divided. Oh, he's red and she's blue. You guys are stupid. There's a right wing and a left wing that attach to the same fucking bird. They work together. They they give you an illusion that your votes count. They don't count. These guys are placed in office, they're given all these directives to what they gotta do. Trump just doesn't care and he's bugging, but he's also involved in everything, right, Tony? All of a sudden the government shuts down because they well, that's one thing I told you.
SPEAKER_03:I do disagree.
SPEAKER_01:I do at least the Epstein files.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I do disagree with you on it. I believe we do have to vote.
SPEAKER_01:But I mean, that's that's your opinion. That's perfectly fine. I just I don't know why anybody believes that they're they're they're voted into office. There's no way that kind of power is is allowed to be from the people voted in. It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_03:But on the but on the other end, it has been proven in the history that they've rigged elections. Yeah, we can go back to who was it, Bush?
SPEAKER_01:You know, Bush, where the whole Florida thing can only tell us what they want us to know.
SPEAKER_03:Right, right. But I still think I want to believe myself that our voice does matter, especially the local level. Always preach like vote at the that's where it starts. The local level. Oh, yeah. Like he's trying to change everything, and that's the thing. We can jump right into him. We will because all this shit.
SPEAKER_01:It all ties together.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, it all ties together. So, you know, what is what is he trying to do? Freedom of speech, he's taken away. He's changing don't don't talk about like we are right now, or you know, you'll be canceled, whatever.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, they might show up at your door or my door before we get done the show today. Like, okay. When I I told you when I was going over work, there's military people everywhere. There's always folks.
SPEAKER_03:That's the thing. Speak, speak on people, because what's pissing me off is he's literally trying to start a civil war. People don't realize that.
SPEAKER_01:He's got his groups in the streets fighting against their own people.
SPEAKER_03:Like I have family, my brother lives out in Oregon. What's going on in Oregon? Trump puts out here, oh, it's chaos out in Portland, it's a war. No, it's not. Nothing's good. These people, if it they're pro peacefully protesting, what he wants the media and the whole world to think, and it's good, oh, it's a damn war zone.
SPEAKER_01:And it's not it's only a war zone because he's sending the military to these cities.
SPEAKER_03:And that's the thing. It's like you're just making it worse, the problem sending the military there or the ice, you know, all of them. You're escalating the problem, but this is what this man wants. He wants us to be divided. You know, it's the whole thing. They're just a damn cult. You know, and I'm sorry, if you support him, I ain't got I ain't fucking with you. I'm saying, like, people, I'm just saying it right now. Because if you had with him, you have anything in common with that man and support him for what, then to me, you you're on the same level he is. And so uh please justify it. Because everybody's always like, Oh, he didn't mean it. I always go back, oh, he didn't mean it that way, how he said it. When it comes straight out, when it comes straight out of his mouth, how does he not mean you all try to justify this? And it it's crazy to me. It is crazy to me the man even got back in for a second term blows my fucking mind. It's like it just tells you where we've gone as a society. It's all set up though. When you got a man who is not a successful businessman, everything he's touched has fell apart.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, what's he what do you think now? You said everything he's touched fell apart? Yeah, like well then look at the country.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I'm getting at. It's like everything, you know, it is crazy. I mean, he was a celebrity, his apprenticeship thing. Like, this is who we put in the office.
SPEAKER_01:That was everybody had to either have political history or military history. All the presidents had either been usually a politician prior or in the military prior, right? Right, nothing but the apprentice, right? Like, yeah, everybody's like, Oh, it's great, he's the best. Like, you guys are so fucking full of shit, man. I don't really care if y'all don't like me either, man. That it just outright. It's I don't even know the words sometimes like to say right now because you guys blow my mind supporting anything that goes against humanity, like it's not about red and blue, do it's about good and evil, and it's evil that's winning right now that's doing all this extra shit. Fuck ice, fuck Trump, and fuck everybody that is going for them. And that don't have nothing to do with Tony saying it, I'm saying it, and that is what it is. I don't got nothing wrong with none of my friends and people, but if that's how y'all ride, then guess what? I'll nod my head when I see it and keep it moving, and that's it. Like, I don't really got nothing to say with you because I can't relate. You really don't care about other people. You don't care about people that look different, that sound different, that have less money. Like, that's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_03:So let's get into what he's doing, right? Like, he's uh he sent troops where he sent them to Portland, right? Chicago, New York, New York, DC. So, what are those areas as well?
SPEAKER_01:They're all they're all cities that have black mayors. Correct, and they're blue, they're Democrat, but they're black mayors also. So they're black, they're black ran towns right now in cities. So let's keep it real. Like, that's not a coincidence that they're all the cities you send some the troops to is all ran by black folks. That's OD.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's right there.
SPEAKER_01:The ice is now flying in helicopters, jumping out on buildings in Chicago, snatching up kids and shit out the buildings.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Well, what just happened?
SPEAKER_03:What happened? Yeah, just happened in Chicago. Remember the ice raid they were saying. Yeah, yeah. And all, but nobody talked about that.
SPEAKER_01:Because they don't care. Well, the people like us care, but the people that cared about Charlie so much don't care because they're all for that. They they think it's a great thing. They think they think Trump's the best, they think that we need a dictator, and they get rid of everybody. You don't want to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_03:Well, let's let me remind our listeners and you know that are tuned in right now. You know, we're all fucking immigrants, right? This is stolen, this is a stolen land.
SPEAKER_01:Divided states of stolen land. Yeah, like people are like, oh, they gotta come the right way though, and there's ways to go about it. I'm like, dude, nobody came here the right way. No, nobody all of a sudden say, Well, these people gotta go, and this, this, and that, and that what is it? It's all people from Guatemala, El Salvador, Mexico, it's all Hispanics. And then, mind you, you know, and then what it is, it's all races to get rid of black and brown people.
SPEAKER_03:It is, it's they're just going after brown, the the color of your skin. That's it. But on top of, you know, and they might say, Oh, well, we're a man, you know, we've been here, blah, blah, blah. Well, well, your family's somewhere else. Yeah, everybody came from somewhere else, right? Over here in the long run, way back. But also, let me remind you, you want to dog these immigrants, and then who built the that you took the way who built this country? Not white people.
SPEAKER_01:We did not build this country, and most of the people all the immigrants construction and shit done done now.
SPEAKER_03:Is by who did all the physical labor? I mean, you you can name it Chinese, built the what the railroad.
SPEAKER_01:And it's bottom of the barrel kind of jobs. I mean, I'm doing fine, but you know, all the crew members that work for me and all the team members everywhere, once in the blue moon, there's a white person. But if they're not the bosses or people that own the companies, it don't be no white people. They don't do the kind of jobs that all the blacks and Hispanics, especially Hispanics that are doing that work for me, work with me.
SPEAKER_03:Because sadly they feel they're above they're above that. You know what I mean? Yeah, I agree. A lot of white people feel they're above that.
SPEAKER_01:Then it's not all white people. Like, look, trust me, I'm half white, Tony's white, it's not that, it's the fucking truth, and a lot of people know it, and a lot of our friends know it and speak about it, but we're just doing it on this platform, man, because it's just it's ridiculous what's happening. Like, they agreed to a so-called ceasefire again for Gaza because Israel's been blowing them to pieces. Yes, little babies and stuff, yup, babies every day, two to three school buses and classrooms full of kids every day getting killed, decapitated heads and everything. Have y'all had any kind of memorial for them? And it's still happening right now because after that ceasefire that was agreed to, less than like two hours, they started shooting them again and bombing them. Right, right. Trump don't give two fucks either, man. So I'm gonna tell y'all like it is fuck Trump, fuck ICE, fuck Benjamin Netanyahu, fuck Israel. Our whole government, damn near 95%, is being held hostage by Israel and APAC and get all their money from APAC because it all ties to the Epstein files. They're all guilty of messing with little kids and underage girls and everything else and doing some crazier shit than we know. Tell me, I believe all of it, man. And they're not gonna release those files because every one of those motherfuckers is on it. The pokes, the kings. Well, that I hope they I hope they do. They just got the celebrities because they use all these people as a big game for us. They distract us for these celebrities, that's why they give them the millions of dollars, and then they get them all blackmailed though, so that they can't ever go against them.
SPEAKER_03:Right. And and I'm with you, you know, releasing these Epstein files. It's like, will it happen? I mean, we've been talking about this forever, just like our first year doing the show. Yes, they're not gonna really do that shit. Just like everybody saying this person needs to be arrested, this and this, and it's not happening. It's just like then something else happens. That's why Trump's doing what he's doing as well, on top of it, doing all this dumb shit to distract us, go against that, go against his beliefs and political views.
SPEAKER_01:So they're gonna come for everybody. And if you guys believe in the the the blue shit, the Democrat, well, if if you don't support Donald Trump, they come for you. I mean, I guess that means they're coming for me. I just don't give a fuck. I see people in the military and goofy ass police officers every single day, man.
SPEAKER_03:Right there, you showed me walking this.
SPEAKER_01:We stand up for each other and fight as people. I've seen a few videos where people are standing up for each other in this country, but it's not a lot. Like when you see people getting harassed by ice and police and everything else, man. Stop watching and filming. Fucking help, do something because if not, it'll be you next. I don't understand it. Oh, it ain't got nothing to do with me. That's what I was gonna say, and then it'll be too late. Then you're gonna look at Tony and Tom and Jerry and be like, Why you didn't help me? Well, you didn't help Bob, Jerry, and Mike. Right, like it is what it is, man. Y'all gotta wake the fuck up. Life is changing very quickly and drastically before our eyes, and I ain't doing no fear of factor things, they just feeding us what they want to feed us, and that division shit is real. I'm not against nobody that believes that they're Republican. I don't care about that shit. We're all the same, but I'm against people that don't care about the rest of us because now I know you ain't the same. That that all and it does like Tony, what'd you say? It breaks down is racist. Yeah, race. There's a lot of there's a lot of classism going on now, too. All these super rich people think that they're above everybody else and they're deleting the middle class. So it's either people that are super wealthy or people that's not.
SPEAKER_03:And what and what gets me too is all this Trump, because the majority of Americans are middle class or poor, you know what I mean? The majority of America, let's be honest. Most of us that white black mo like like nobody's more these multimillionaires like Trump and all these, they don't give a shit about us. And you're vote control. Yeah, it's it's crazy, it blows my mind, man. So I most of the time I'm speechless because I don't like I don't get it with people. That's why now it's just I'll cut you off quick.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I'm sure people didn't heard what we say and was like, fuck that. But it's fine, man.
SPEAKER_03:Like it's fine, dude. It to me, it's all negativity. It's and we would love y'all to come on the show.
SPEAKER_01:Look, if y'all really do support Trump and feel like the memorial was the right thing to do for Charlie Sheen and then all this other stuff that's going on, like come on and speak to the to it uh on the show with us. And I know it's not Charlie Sheen, man, but it's it should be funny just like that because y'all are clowns. Oh, Charlie Kirk. His wife is like sleeping with Donald Trump right now, or his widow, and she's already got a CEO job and all this extra shit. A week after he got killed, supposedly. Why ain't with the kids? Why this and that? Like, oh, you're getting promoted, and then like, nah, there's a whole lot of stuff going on. And I don't care if y'all be like, Chris is wilding. Well, guess what? I hollered in the cannon before they get on wilding now. Well, I'm doing well.
SPEAKER_03:He's wilding. And no, you're hey, it's it's how you feel.
SPEAKER_02:A lot of people scared of speaking the east.
SPEAKER_03:It's it's how you feel. Yeah, it's crazy. I I don't get it. One bit. Yeah, at all. But I'm done. I gave my rant on. I don't even want to talk about it right now anymore. Like that, I don't get it. Like Chris said, hey, jump on the show then. Yeah, not go see somebody. Give your two cents.
SPEAKER_01:Even if you don't want to talk about this stuff, let us know what you want to talk about. We come on and have fun, man. That's it. It's a platform for any and everybody that wants to join us.
SPEAKER_03:Right, right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Every now and then we gotta make sure we have a show without always a guest, just so we can kind of, you know, vent, vent, vent like this.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. It's good it's good to vent every once in a while.
SPEAKER_01:Don't worry. There, I am excited about one thing. I wish I could be down in Winchester this Saturday to see my nephew Christian get busy and the whole team for that for that matter, Will and Amari and everybody else. But uh, you know, I gotta work and I I live up here in Brooklyn and work in New York, well, Manhattan, and can't get away. Haven't been to Winchester all year, which is the first time, probably since like 2019 or 2018. I don't even know, man. But yeah, you guys get out there, support whoever y'all like, man, whether it's Skyline, Central, Woodstock, um what? It's James Wood, whoever, man. Go out there and support him. But if y'all want to see a super phenom get busy starting this Saturday, y'all go on over there to the only team that I've ever heard of that has high school football Saturday.
SPEAKER_03:So let's let's talk about, let's jump into the NFL to end this. Who's winning tonight?
SPEAKER_01:Philly and the Giants?
SPEAKER_03:Who's winning?
SPEAKER_01:Philly will probably win, but I hope the Giants win. They need to get Saquon the ball. Like they ran him like 10 times last week. That's OD.
SPEAKER_03:I'm with you because of course my heart is like, yeah, I want the Giants to win just because so we can move up in the to give Philly another loss. But I think Philly, Philly wins it. I wanted to ask you last week, so I wanted to ask you to uh who who's in the MVP running for you right now in the league in the NFL? Give me your give me give me your top three who you feel's bowling out right now, like in you know, in the race going into week, what, six now?
SPEAKER_01:So I don't really think I I would have anybody because there's it's not Derek Henry and Saquon Barkley, and it's not Mahomes, and it's not then who is it? I have no idea right now. It's kind of like up in the air, and it should be a close race unless somebody starts a couple people start breaking away. But like it's I'll give you I'll give you a couple of days. It's not DK Metcalf, it's not Shador Sanders, it's not all these people. Nobody's in the running from for me. So I would like to hear your part because I don't really see anybody, no teams besides Josh, Josh Allen and the Philly, uh, whatever their quarterback's name is, Jalen Hurts. But they're I don't think they're up for MVP yet either.
SPEAKER_03:Not right now. I feel I think he's leading the pack and should be is Baker Mayfield. And what do they do? Baker Mayfield is bowling.
SPEAKER_01:And they're four and one?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. They're four, you know, I think he's leading in touchdowns, at least, you know, fourth quarter comebacks. If it wasn't for Baker Mayfield, the Bucs probably wouldn't even win a game. So to me, Baker Mayfield's up there.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, you gotta have a good quarterback.
SPEAKER_03:And then, and then uh I'll throw in Dak because honestly, Dak is balling.
SPEAKER_01:But you can't have a team that's like two, one, and two or whatever they are.
SPEAKER_03:But the way the level he's playing at, though, it's like I think he's leading the yards. I'm just saying through week five, going into week six.
SPEAKER_01:That's so so then Baker Mayfield, who else you got?
SPEAKER_03:And then I got uh shit, Danny Dimes.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, no, you know, he ain't getting it. I know the I know the culture playing.
SPEAKER_03:I know he's probably not gonna get it. But as but as of right now, he's balling. What about Jacksonville?
SPEAKER_01:They're 4-1 all of a sudden.
SPEAKER_03:That very true.
SPEAKER_01:But they don't have like even Trevor Lawrence isn't their MVP right now, so it's just like they're it's a team thing. They're really balling.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, they they are.
SPEAKER_01:Like it's trapped on her before he came, they sucked.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, I mean, I hey that I gotta give Travis some props that hey, he's playing both sides of the ball. I watched the game, dude. I really didn't think he would transition into the like, but hey, he's showing he would probably end up being a superstar. Yeah. We'll see.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's a kid.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, he made a hell of a catch that night.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, I don't really know who would be the front runner. I I would agree with you then, Baker. And they're four and one, and I think he has three fourth-quarter comebacks out of his five games already, so right.
SPEAKER_03:I would have put Justin Herbert up there.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, they just for the Charters into the Giants.
SPEAKER_03:But I'm like, man, you lose to Washington, you're out. You lose to you're out the running. But of course it's gonna be Josh Allen. But you know, it'll be at the end of the and Jalen Hurts. I'm just I'm just saying by the end of the season. Hey, Rabel for the Patriots, man.
SPEAKER_01:Uh tough ass team.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, hell of a coach. I mean, hey, now now the Bill. So watch out for the Patriots. It's a long season.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I'm not a Patriots fan, but he's definitely got them playing pretty well.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. That's for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like, dude, what are the Chiefs like one and four? The Ravens, one and four, like it's wild.
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah. Like, what's the surprise that they're one and four? And who else is who'd you say who else is the other one and four team? Ravens. Well, I thought you said somebody else. The Chiefs. I was surprised. The Chiefs. The Chiefs, yeah, they're two and two and three.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, they just well, they just lost to the Jags.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, hold on, no, no, no. You might be right. But I think the Chiefs have won uh two games. But still, it's surprising the teams that are ahead, you know, with winning records right now, like Jacksonville, Colts. You know, I thought the Texans would be running that division and they struggle with that.
SPEAKER_01:But he's talking about Aaron, but he's got still his three and one. But I'm like, dude, you play who you play. You're gonna get to those other teams, and we'll find out. But for them to be three and one early, that's pretty cool. It's because I like DK and he's with him, so yeah, but I don't I don't think they'll win it. I told you Vegas still has the Ravens, who's one and four, favored to win that division, which is crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Right. But well, yeah, I mean, it's wild. This year, this year football, I can say it's been exciting. Like it's who'd you pick for your Super Bowl?
SPEAKER_01:Colts and Tampa Bay.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no. I was joking about that. I was like, they look like the two teams that'll make it right now.
SPEAKER_01:But I said it don't look like they're going.
SPEAKER_03:I said uh Buffalo and the Rams. The Rams is the was my preseason pick was Buffalo and LA.
SPEAKER_01:The Rams are decent, but they ain't going. I hey hey, they last season still go, but the Rams, they're not gonna go. They're their division, they're gonna beat each other up.
SPEAKER_03:Well, that's true. But remember, they almost they almost went into Philly and almost won that game.
SPEAKER_01:Because Philly's overrated. Honestly, they're gonna rate last year. They got they lost a lot of key pieces this year, and now for some reason their coach doesn't know who Saquon is. Like, dude, if I Isn't it funny?
SPEAKER_03:Like, how and that's the thing, is like why how do these coaches or offensive court get away from your bread and butter? Like now all of a sudden Saquon's like non-existent in their offense.
SPEAKER_01:But in that same right, AJ Brown's pissed because he's not getting the ball. So, like, what are they doing?
SPEAKER_03:Jalen Hurst is running around.
SPEAKER_01:Their best receivers not getting the ball, and Saquon, the best running back in the league, he's not getting the ball. Like, what's going on? But they are four and one, and they'll probably be five and one tonight because the Giants are.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you know what it reminds me of, honestly, this season with the Eagles. Remember the year they lost like their last seven, eight games. They just had a total fucking collapse. I feel because I think they were squeaking out games, or and then it just all fell apart. And I think the same, I have a funny feel that's what's gonna happen. They're gonna fizzle out, like teams are gonna catch up the defenses with because they're not like you say, they're not putting up a lot of points, and they're better they're squeaking out wins. And I I just think it's gonna catch up to them eventually.
SPEAKER_01:I hope they lose tonight, man. So all y'all Giants fans out there, y'all pull hard for your team because probably won't win. Y'all haven't played Philly yet, right?
SPEAKER_03:Who? Dallas?
SPEAKER_01:Y'all played him week one.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, we played him already, man. Yeah. We haven't played.
SPEAKER_01:We played like the two of the last three weeks.
SPEAKER_03:And we could have won. And Dallas could have beat him, honestly. CD catches one of them two drops. He had latency. We we could have won that game.
SPEAKER_01:When does he come back?
SPEAKER_03:Uh a couple weeks, I believe.
SPEAKER_01:Or is he show for the year?
SPEAKER_03:He comes back in like a week or two.
SPEAKER_01:That's another thing. We know injuries are a big part of sports and they happen. And and that but dude, there's like a hundred stars on the NFL hurt right now.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah. But and that brings me to another question. Who's who that brings me to another question? Who do you think was the best free agent signing? Can you think of any?
SPEAKER_01:Do they have to have move teams? Yeah, they were signed like like I Miles Garrett. No, they've had to be amazing, but yeah, um best free agent signing.
SPEAKER_03:I got two. And they're on this and they're on the same team.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you're gonna say the receiver from Pittsburgh that played for y'all. Pickens, George Pickens, and then you're gonna say Kenny Pickett. Nah, you're gonna say um Javante Williams.
SPEAKER_03:We have to keep it real. Like, I was skeptical of Javante Williams. He's coming for off a knee injury. Bro, but he's like they're he's killing it right now. And the kid runs. Dude, he I love the way he runs, he runs hard. He don't he he looks to run over people. So he he's a pleasant Tennessee. George George Pickens is not really so we are we knew George Pickens had talent. Like we knew he was good.
SPEAKER_01:Javante played good in Denver.
SPEAKER_03:What's what's that?
SPEAKER_01:He played well in Denver.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but like I say, he got that knee injury, and I think Ron Grid just basically gave up on it. Oh yeah, like I say, the and it's funny they're on the same, but yeah, Javante Williams is definitely a pleasant surprise. Like he's killing it.
SPEAKER_01:You know, we're three and two, and I'm not hyping us up. But we're two and two. How many weeks have it been?
SPEAKER_03:It's we're going into week six.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so we're three, we're three and two. We lost without Jaden. No excuses, like you said, but I'm not hyping us up. I don't think Jaden's doing anything special. Terry's definitely not even playing, he's hurt. Um, but I'm surprised, like, you're big enough, you're just calling Dak for MVP and this and that.
SPEAKER_03:Y'all are like I'm just saying as of right now, I'm not saying he's gonna listen to the words that are coming out of my mouth, Chris. I'm like through week five.
SPEAKER_01:So I would I just wouldn't put any like I I wouldn't put Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts up there yet. So I just can't do it with that.
SPEAKER_03:Well, that's what I say. You had to pick somebody. But let's go, let's run through. Give me your picks real quick and we'll end this because we're going uh short on time here. So you already said the Eagles will win tonight. Broncos and Jets. Who you got?
SPEAKER_01:The Jets haven't won yet. They're the only winless team, and I don't think they'll beat the Broncos.
SPEAKER_03:I'm with you. They'll still be winless. Seahawks and Jaguars, that'll be a good one.
SPEAKER_01:It's in Jackville.
SPEAKER_03:You're saying it's in yeah, it's in Jacksonville. Yeah, I got Jags. I'm going Seahawks. I think they go with Beatlem. But it's hard for West Coast teams or e vice versa, traveling that distance. Usually they don't win because of that travel. Uh Rams Vikey or Rans Viking, Rams Ravens.
SPEAKER_01:Is is Lamar back?
SPEAKER_03:It's in Baltimore.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think so. If Lamar's not back, no. Then I got the.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think they win regard if he is back. I think the Rams win.
SPEAKER_01:If he's back, they have a much better chance.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, of course. Cardinals, Colts. It's in Indy. Colts win that. Cardinals. Oh, you took the man. Oh, I should be writing this down. Uh Cowboys play the Panthers. Cowgirls. I'm with you. Patriots and Saints.
SPEAKER_01:Saints suck.
SPEAKER_03:Um I'm with you. Browns and Steelers could be a good one. See the Browns are uh you don't know what you're gonna do.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's in Pittsburgh. Steelers win by five, five or six.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I'm gonna take the Browns in that one. I think they'll point it because they they have a good defense.
SPEAKER_01:Of course, Miles probably get Titans, Raiders. Titans and Raiders?
SPEAKER_03:The shit bowl, yeah. Titans are the shit bowl.
SPEAKER_01:Um yeah, that's a rough game, too. That's like Meridian and whoever else you said they're playing. I'm going Raiders. I think they're a little I think they're a little bit better. I think Genty finally had he had a big game last week, but I think he continues to figure out a way to get a W with it.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Oh, here's a good one. Niners and Buccaneers.
SPEAKER_01:The Bucks. No question.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think the Bucs, too. Uh Bengals and Packers.
SPEAKER_01:Definitely not picking the Bengals and Joe Flacco.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Packers, easy one. All right, this could be this one here. Zeb, here you go. Lions and Chiefs. It's in KC.
SPEAKER_01:Definitely got Detroit. Detroit's the best team. I I I fucked up, guys. Detroit's the best team in football, and I would guess they have to say their quarterback should be MVP up there with with Baker. And then, man, they they just have a great offense, but that quarterback's been going.
SPEAKER_03:All right. Well, I'm gonna go KC. I can't see KC losing. I think they're somehow they're gonna figure it out.
SPEAKER_01:Kansas City.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, yeah, I'm taking Kansas City.
SPEAKER_01:Sunday night.
SPEAKER_03:It's Sunday night game, it's in Kansas.
SPEAKER_01:And there's two Monday night games again this week.
SPEAKER_03:Yep, two Monday night, and here they are. You got Bills and Falcons.
SPEAKER_01:Bills win that. Yeah, Bills probably win it.
SPEAKER_03:And then your your commanders.
SPEAKER_01:We're gonna beat the Bears again, and you and Jason's favorite player, Caleb.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_01:So who you got? I definitely got us. Jaden's back. We're gonna beat them again.
SPEAKER_03:I'm going to Chicago just to piss you off. We're gonna come into Washington. They're gonna win.
SPEAKER_01:They don't piss me off. You are you over there going to Memorials for Charlie downtown?
SPEAKER_03:Shit, the hell out of him. All right, Chris. Hey, man, that's our time. Let's give a few shout-outs to everybody. Like I say again, Zaydenbergs doing his thing. You know, Christian Denj is coming out, uh, his debut game at uh Kettle Run. Everybody go out tomorrow night and support these local athletes at a you know a high school game. Go out and support them. And also I want to thank everyone for being new subscribers to you know, Justin Garber subscribed to our YouTube channel. Who else did? You know, we'll start shouting out people you know subscribing to our channel. So uh I appreciate everyone who's subscribed to our channel, you know, follow us on Facebook, Twitter, at or X, whatever they call it anymore. So follow us and support. But yeah, we got let's give a couple shout outs, like Eugene Polston. Thank you. Subscribe, Stephanie Turner. Yeah, Stephanie Turner, Anthony Moa, Justin Garber. So those are our recent subscribers, guys. We'll give shout-outs, man. You know, I appreciate everyone's surprise. It helps us out and just support us. So Chris, been real, been fun. We'll be back next Thursday. Hopefully, we can call Rush on and got to get in, talk to him. Yeah, big news for you know, school board, what else? Big upcoming thing, you know, for Winchester City Public Schools. I'll get him on and uh yeah, talk about all the new things up and coming, you know, big news coming for our education for our kids and everything, you know, they do for this community. So hopefully we get him on next Thursday, but we've got to play in that. And then uh after that, right, is uh Chris West to be on.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Again, and we're gonna be talking uh midterms and upcoming election, you know, all that. So we'll see what's up with big Chris West. Big supporter too. Chris supports us. Thank you, Chris. You know, you're always supporting. But Chris, been fun. You got any shout-outs to anybody? Any happy birthdays?
SPEAKER_01:Shout out to shout out to my my sister, my homegirl Carrie Dyke. She just had her uh 45th.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, happy birthday. Yeah, that's true. Well, you can't forget Elizabeth, twins.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, of course. They they my homies, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But hey man, been real been real. Let's get off of here, and I'll probably call you right up and we'll talk shit up. This football game coming on. So it's been fun, man. Love you, Chris. Everybody, thanks for supporting. Hey, tune in next Thursday at seven o'clock, everyone. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER_01:And I want to shout out to Tony and I's big bros, man, Dwayne and Mike, man. I think y'all had your best show last night. I I'll say it on my part. It was your best show, and not just because you had Daryl Wentmore on, but it went it was a good show, man. It was good to watch, it was it was good hearing it, and shout out to Daryl, man. It might be the goat of all the athletes from the area. So that was dope for y'all fellas, man. That was a good show, man. Keep grinding and keep doing your thing because we love to listen to y'all too. So, you know, support goes both ways. Y'all supporting us, we support you. That's how it works. Everybody else in the community, Josh Kirby, keep doing your thing down there, man. And uh, anybody else, man? Want to get on the show? Tell Tony, tell tell me, hit us up wherever you where you need to get.
SPEAKER_03:I got messengers. Hey, hit us up, everyone. All right, everybody.
SPEAKER_01:Give me a green. I'm out there and aim if you need to get all right, man.
SPEAKER_03:Time to go. All right, Chris. Love you, man. I'm talking a little bit.
SPEAKER_04:All right, everybody. Never been played. We didn't go back to bed.
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