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From Grief to Grit: Justin Garber on Songs, Loss, and Carrying a Family Tree into Sound
A guitar at 28. A notebook full of poems. Two losses that changed the shape of a life. We sit down with our friend and musician Justin Garber to trace how Family Tree came to life and why starting “late” can be the best kind of beginning. Justin opens up about writing through grief, turning a grandmother’s wisdom into a narrative ballad, and sequencing an album that actually takes you somewhere—upstream and back again—with bluegrass grit, Americana warmth, and the kind of lines that stay with you long after the song fades.
We dig into the craft: learning from books and weekly lessons, collecting metaphors in everyday conversation, and letting influence stretch wide—from Led Zeppelin and the Beatles to Pearl Jam, the Dead, and the outlaw edge of Willie and Waylon. Justin shares the studio story behind Family Tree, including contributions from Yonder Mountain String Band’s Dave Johnston and Adam Aijala, and a Grammy-nominated production team that shaped the record’s dynamics without sanding off its heart. He also walks us through a bucket-list surprise: singing the national anthem for the Colorado Rockies on short notice, right in the middle of family grief—and how saying yes to brave moments can reset what you thought possible.
If you’ve ever wondered how to balance a day job with honest art, how to write songs that people feel in their bones, or how to evolve your sound without losing yourself, this conversation is for you. We talk new inspirations (hello, Tyler Childers), the next album’s expanding palette (fiddle and pedal steel incoming), and the power of staying independent so the music can speak plainly. Stream Family Tree everywhere you listen, and if you want the full warmth, grab the vinyl directly from Justin at JustinGarbermusic at gmail.
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What's up, everybody?
SPEAKER_01:Welcome back to another episode of VWL. This is about the eighth night episode. We've gone live on YouTube. But each week, like we told you, is gonna keep getting better and better. So while I'm in New York, pony's down in Winchester for most people. The man himself, the one and when Justin Garber, the musician, is in the building. I know y'all haven't seen him in a while because I probably haven't seen you, Justin, in what? 25 years? 25 years. 25 years since we were running the streets of Winchester. It's like you've never left, and vice versa, because I don't live there either. But man, we're excited to have you on. Talk about what you got going on in life, how dope you are as a musician, and like you said, whatever else comes off top. So, Tony, take us away, brother.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so Justin, welcome to Brothers with Opinions. Glad to have you on. Like Chris said, man, the last time I probably saw you was 25 years ago. I know. It's been a while. But uh, man, glad to have you on and you know, talk about your journey through through life, basically. Like, you know, you got a you got an album out, and you can talk about that and talk about your new footage.
SPEAKER_04:I got a bee following me around right now. Oh that's so yeah, man. Excited to be here. Good to see you guys. Probably the last time I was with you, Tony. We were probably coming back from Nissan Pavilion in that in that ecano line.
SPEAKER_02:Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's my favorite band. You know how I am. That's my favorite band. Red Hot Chili Peppers. I thought they're fucking dope. And they spoke what's happening in life now in the late 90s.
SPEAKER_02:So, Justin, so Justin, take us on your journey, man. It's it's pretty interesting. And I and I told Chris when we got off the phobia, I said, man, he's an inspiration, but go ahead, tell it like tell how you started it, you know, your musical.
SPEAKER_01:You are, brother. Be proud, man. We're excited to have you.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I'm proud, but I appreciate those kind words. That's nice. Uh, you know, my life journey is probably not the same as my musical journey, you know. My my musical journey would be more starting late in life, you know. I didn't pick up the guitar until I was 28. So uh let that be a lesson to people that, you know, feel like they wish they would start things sooner. You know, there's it's never too late. The earth keeps turning, you know. Right. The years are gonna go by no matter what. So I picked it up at 28, and uh, I was still living in Charleston and wasn't taking it super serious, but when my wife Ashley and I moved to Colorado, I ended up meeting a good friend Matt out here and um took lessons from him pretty much every week for five years and really dug into it and was writing songs. And honestly, you know, after my parents passed away, I really was just writing what would be considered just poetry, right? And then those that poetry turned into songs, you know, through my learning to play the guitar, provided me an outlet to actually write, be a songwriter. So um, you know, and then uh through a series of friendships and meeting some good friends in the music industry, you know, and uh being pushed in the right direction to just kind of take the leap of faith of going out and playing live and going and recording music. And so it's been a really fun journey. You know, my my first like live show probably wasn't until 2019. You know, some somewhere around there, 20 no, that's not true. 2017, 18, 19, somewhere in there.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's we know we're we're known with sometime around there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somewhere in there.
SPEAKER_04:You know, I mean I I make the point that I haven't been playing music all my life, you know. And uh and I I'm I'm proud of that. I think a lot of famous musicians, not that I'm a famous musician, but a lot of people that are well-known musicians have been playing their whole life, you know, and I think that it should be known that you, you know, you can pick it up at any time and just go play.
SPEAKER_02:And and and that's why I was saying Chris, because I was like, it's never too late. You just said it, you know, never too late. The world keeps turning, you know, to do something.
SPEAKER_03:Might as well go do what you want to do. Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:My job every day and doing certain different things, but at the end of the day, I also don't want to be broke while I make those decisions.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I have a day job. I have, you know, I'm I'm lucky. I have a job that I love. I care for a a property in Colorado that um allows me the ability to. I mean, I'm working right now, so you know, I I feel pretty lucky to be a good one.
SPEAKER_02:Really, you're working right now on our show.
SPEAKER_04:I'm working, I'm working. Technically, I'm on the clock.
SPEAKER_03:I'm on the clock.
SPEAKER_04:Uh you know. Um, yeah, you know, I I I make music at this point in my life because I want to, and it's fun, and I love it, and it's art and it's a form of expression, and I'm not tied to being forced to do anything. I'm not I don't have to go make music to make money. I don't have to play shows to make money. I play it because I I play because I love to, and uh I hope to continue to do that. I think everyone has a dream of being a big rock and roll star, and of course that would be cool too. But you know, I I like my life. I enjoy my life.
SPEAKER_01:Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Now now, now one question, you mentioned you you're married, which I didn't know, just found that out. So uh how how did your wife support you along, you know? Because I'm sure you're like, oh yeah, I'm gonna pick up the guitar, I'm gonna try music because most significant others, I guess, are very supportive, you know, a lot of times, like, oh, you're nuts.
SPEAKER_04:You know, so how crazy. We're all so crazy. Uh Ashley and I have been together 24 years. She's from Winchester as well. You see how Tony said he didn't know that? You said 20 Tony.
SPEAKER_01:That's like a year after you've seen him.
SPEAKER_04:Tony and I probably had stopped tank uh hanging out maybe like a year or two before I met Ashley. And I and when I met Ashley, I was we were only dating for like a year before I left.
SPEAKER_01:But she recognized early on that Tony wasn't gonna be somebody she wanted you to hang around.
SPEAKER_02:See, that's why. That's why you cut me off.
SPEAKER_04:But but to the question, she she's very supportive. Ashley is a very, very supportive person in my life for all angles. It doesn't not just music, but for everything. Um, you know, I mean, I guess the real answer is, you know, she lets me follow my passions, my dreams, my whatever I'm interested in, and vice versa. I do that too, you know? Um so you know, I'd I think that's all that it really takes. I don't think it has to be a super complicated answer.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, right. Well, hey.
SPEAKER_04:She's just there, you know. If if if I if it's something that I want to do that's constructive and healthy and good and artistic, then go for it.
SPEAKER_01:You know, you said she's from Winchester. Did she go to Hanley? Yeah, she went to Hanley. 96?
SPEAKER_04:Nope, she's younger than we are.
SPEAKER_01:Not probably not me then.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe. Let's see, she graduated in 2000. Yeah, she's younger. She's younger.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, already. See, gotcha.
SPEAKER_04:2001, 2002.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's for my wife. Guess what? We all find what we find, and vice versa. When God wants it to happen, and even if you don't believe in him or her, the higher power, it happens when it's supposed to happen. That's right. Yeah, so I don't like that. Okay, are you mad? Yes, they are mad. Because you're 40 now, so you're hoping in 40 years you date somebody who's just now born. Like, good luck. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You find love how you find it, whatever else. And of course, when there's that much years, it could be money and stuff involved. But regardless, if he's happy, who cares? That's right. That's Justin. If you're happy, that's all that matters, brother. Yeah, she's not even that much younger, she's just younger than me, and I'm younger than y'all. Tony and those guys are born with Vietnam and from I was born with Jimmy Carter and Reagan.
SPEAKER_02:I'm so old to Chris. You know, just because I'm body doesn't mean I'm that old. All right. So it happens to the best of us. I don't have the beautiful locks that you know, like Justin has.
SPEAKER_01:You tried to. You're a wife, your wife.
SPEAKER_04:I can see, I can see why you guys call this brothers with opinions because you guys are like two like real brothers that just fight about your brothers. Yeah, right. Absolutely. I'm just gonna sit back and let you guys go. Right, just let us just let us go. You guys figure this out.
SPEAKER_01:No matter what we say, so Justin. I'll be here if you need anything. Some people may agree with certain things, either one of us say, and they may not, but it's still really just our opinion. We're not telling you to you know live and die by the code of what we say or not, but it's our opinion, take it for what it is, right?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I'm I'm here to support you guys, you know. Yeah, we really had two cats from your class on in the beginning. Yeah, did you? It was Wayne Rush and Zeb Weaver.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my boys. Yeah, they both didn't. Wayne and I Wayne and I, before I left for college, we used to hang out all the time because we worked together at Hyleigh Myers. We were delivering furniture. Wayne's still there.
SPEAKER_03:Just no you had me for a minute.
SPEAKER_05:You had me in the first half.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no, Wayne's my best friend, man. I love him, man. But you know about that. They were already playing the show before me.
SPEAKER_04:Right. Yeah. No, Wayne. Well, I he's a good dude. I haven't talked to him or seen him in 25 years either.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right. Right? Yeah. So back back on topic. Let's get back to Justin Garber, the musician. Let's go through your uh pick your brain. Like, how do you go through your writing pro your creative process of writing because you talked about a little bit about, you know, it's a whole different animal songwriting. So do you like lock yourself in a closet like main or the tour or something, you know?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Is that what he does?
SPEAKER_02:Uh yeah, that's what I ready does and takes like whatever drugs, you know, to come up with it. Interesting. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um, you know, it's funny, my my um my songwriting kind of just came out of nowhere. I I didn't actually like one day just say, I want to be a songwriter, and then start writing songs. I actually was just kind of like writing a lot of thoughts and feelings and uh things about my parents after they passed away. And I think it just was like this cathartic uh thing that I was doing to just kind of like get it out. And uh, you know, and then one day I was like, oh, it kind of sounds like a song. And then I just kind of picked up the guitar and was playing around. And and I will say that, you know, after I started digging into it, I bought some books on songwriting to like try to hone my skill. So I've definitely like read books on songwriting. There's some really good stuff out there, you know. I've studied other artists' songwriting styles and skills and stuff, but honestly, it just it kind of comes natural. I don't really think about it too much. Um I'll hear different uh metaphors and similes and these little sayings that like people say, and I'll just write it down because it sounds cool, and sometimes it becomes a song. Like my grandmother had a saying my whole life since I was a little kid don't trade the thrill of a moment for a lifetime of misery. And I've pretty much lived by that my whole life. I probably kept me out of trouble at parties at high school. I'd be like, I'd be like, ah, you know, this kind of seems like I should probably get out of here, you know. And um I kind of thought that when I was young. Yeah, I kind of thought that it was like a cool saying could be a cool song. So I actually have a song called The Key to Life that I wrote from the perspective of like two cowboys searching for this guy who has the key to life, and they find him in the desert right before he's about to die, and they kind of ask him to share what the key to life is before he dies, and with his last breath, he says that the key to life is to not trade the thrill of a moment for a lifetime of misery. And so, you know, just like different trying to like creative angles of songwriting and things like that, you know. Just thoughts that pop in my head. I think in some ways it is hard to explain.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I don't know about that.
SPEAKER_01:You do some of your inspirations though, as far as songwriting, because there can be a difference between a performer and a singer than a songwriter. So, who are some of your inspirations in that aspect?
SPEAKER_04:You know, um inspirations that I am like, you know, that I kind of zero in on today in my life would be like Jason Isbull, um Tom Petty, George Harrison from the Beatles, um Virgil Simpson. Like kind of, you know, it's a plethora of different people, but um growing up, I listened to a lot of different music that my dad was interested in, you know, like Led Zeppelin and The Doors and the Beatles and all kinds of different and I was always paying attention to the lyrics, even back then.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_04:Like like the singing of the words and what the words mean, and is there a story? Like it always from uh being a little kid, and then you know, once I was growing up in the early 90s, going into um you know, the grunge era of like Nirvana and shit, Nirvana and Pearl Jam and sound like I am still a diehard Pearl Jam fan. Like Pearl Jam. I mean, you know, Eddie Vetter's songwriting is phenomenal. Like I absolutely love those guys, and so you know, then I kind of went into that, and then as I got older and in my 20s, I kind of gravitate gravitated towards like The Grateful Dead and Widespread Panic and Almond Brothers and kind of the jam band scene. Um, and then once I started writing songs and playing guitar and and stuff, I one day was like, wow, that's kind of weird that I my songs sound more like country songs or like Americana songs when I never really got into that music that much. And then so then I dove really deep into bluegrass and country, like more like the outlaw country, um, but like Yonder Mountain String Band, um uh the Del McCurry band, and you know, just all kinds of different bluegrass, um and then like country music, like kind of going back far as I like Wayland Jennings and Willie Nelson and just trying to like see all these different angles. And I can't say that I know their catalog better than a lot of people, you know. Like there's people that probably can tell you every song from every album, but I really just kind of would learn their different styles, and you just naturally pull a little bit from everybody, and you just have your own little style, you know? Right is Led Zeppelin the best band ever. They're definitely one of them for sure. For sure. We'll get into that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, everybody kind of messing up Tony's questions, man.
SPEAKER_01:He's got no Beatles, but I think Led Zeppelin might be a hit of a man. It's just the Beatles have the songs, they're worldwide famous, they're from but Led Zeppelin dude, Jimmy Page, that whole band is fucking fire.
SPEAKER_04:There's a really good uh new documentary on Led Zeppelin that I've been uh like halfway through. It's it's fantastic. It's really cool to see to see. Like, I think it's on Netflix. There's a lot of uh like old interviews and stuff. It's really cool. It's really cool.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, I'd I'll have to check that out.
SPEAKER_04:And yeah, I mean, I just I dove pretty deep into the Beatles. I think anybody that likes music at some point in time has a Beatles face, you know. Whether they're your favorite band or not, you have to kind of go and figure it out and see their their trajection of like starting off as this little fab floor, you know, almost like poppy band, and then you know, they started taking psychedelics and they turned into this kind of like psychedelic band, you know, um, into like true rock and roll.
SPEAKER_01:Um they're considered the greatest band. To me, I think they're considered the greatest band because people say them all the fucking time.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I mean, you know, I I don't think you could say the Beatles uh you you can't argue against it really too much. It's kind of hard. I mean, there are other bands. I mean Led Zeppelin is up there for sure, but it also depends. Here's the thing I love about music there's something for everybody, right? Like you don't have to like the Beatles at all. Maybe you like Mozart and Bach and Alabama and Tchaikovsky, or maybe you love bluegrass and nothing else, you know. Maybe you love heavy metal or death metal or thrash metal, like there's something for everybody. I personally love all of it. I I'll I'll go to heavy metal concerts, bluegrass concerts, rock and roll, country. You know, I'll I'll I'll take it all in.
SPEAKER_02:Right. I I'm trying to turn Chris on the metal, but I can't get him there.
SPEAKER_01:Because I grew up on Guns and Roses and Metallica AC DC. I didn't grow up on you can go see them.
unknown:Right. Right.
SPEAKER_04:I just like saw Guns N' Roses like two or two or three years ago. It was fantastic.
SPEAKER_01:I I just asked Tony before we got on the show tonight. I'm like, have you seen them and ACDC? He said, No. I said, Yeah, well, if they go on tour, let me know.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. My nephew, my nephew is a uh a drummer and like uh I don't know what how he would classify it. To me, it's like kind of like a thrash metal, heavy metal band. They were the hair metal bands of our time, and they were they're awesome. Uh I love see poison. I wouldn't tell poison as one of my first concerts when I was like nine years old. It's fantastic.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no, I didn't know he was out there running around on a newer song of theirs. Justin, you remember the concert?
SPEAKER_02:You remember the concert we went to? We went to a bunch. Well, the first one. Metallica.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, Metallica, where corrosion of conformity opened.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:That was 97, right? The load tour.
SPEAKER_02:Uh 96, 90, something like that.
SPEAKER_04:Something in there. I think it was the load tour. Yeah, that was at the the pay when they called it the Patriots Center.
SPEAKER_02:Or was it called USA Arena at the time?
SPEAKER_04:Uh I don't, I don't remember. That's a Fairfax.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, so you're journey. Let's talk about your album. Sure. Uh your debut album, correct? Yeah. So yes. Family tree.
SPEAKER_01:Whoever did that man time was that shit's fire. Oh, yeah, the artwork.
SPEAKER_04:That's Katie Malvey, Mark Malvey's wife.
SPEAKER_01:So shout out to Katie because that was shout out to Katie.
SPEAKER_04:She's a phenomenal artist. Yeah. Yeah, it looked dope, man. It still looks dope. So, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, she's fantastic.
SPEAKER_04:That actually is a um it's oil painting on wood. And then my friend took a photo of it. So that's an actual like piece of art. It's not um that's not digital.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:That's an actual oil painting. Yeah, she's fantastic. Well, no lie. I think it's dope. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02:Nice. So I listened to your whole album today.
SPEAKER_04:Wonderful.
SPEAKER_02:And I I feel you have a touch of blues in it, like you say, bluegrass. Yeah. A little bit, you know, feel in it, and American old school country. You think so, Crazy? You listen or not? Be honest.
SPEAKER_01:I only got to listen to three stars. Dude, I got off. I told you I've still listened to something.
SPEAKER_03:He's been working since May 9th, you know, since he's been out. He ain't had time.
SPEAKER_02:He hasn't had time since May 9th.
SPEAKER_04:I don't, I don't know if it's got any jazz in there. It definitely has uh rock and roll, bluegrass. There is some blues feelings in there for sure. Some country. Right. Uh, yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So I'll put up, I'll put us at like one song I really got out with was Hearts and Hands. Yeah. I like that one. So could you tell a little story about like, and also River Back Home. Of course, obviously, that's gotta be the Shenandoah River, right?
SPEAKER_04:You know, here's the thing about songwriting is however it connects to you is what it is what it is. Yeah, but it is if to you in your heart it was the Shenandoah River, then that's what it is.
SPEAKER_02:But you're right. That's the great people interpret it the way they want, you know, how they connect to it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It's it's it's however you connect it. If if somebody in Colorado might say that's the Colorado River, you know. It's whatever river you want it to be.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_04:Uh but no, I would love to share with you the story of Hearts and Hands because it is written about uh the night that my mom passed away. And uh when she got really sick, I was lucky enough to actually be back home. It was a time when I was close to home. And so I spent the last three weeks with her by her bedside, and I kind of told her, you know, no matter where you are in the world, that we can look up at the moon and and be connected. And so when I look at the moon, I I think of my mom. And so the the story is about what's happening at that moment, her passing away, and us being connected through the moon. And our hearts and hands are connected and held together through the universe, basically. Nice, so yeah, it's a it's a it's a uh sometimes I have a hard time singing it, uh, so I try not to think about it too much, but uh I love it. It's uh it's a meaningful song to me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's that's the great thing about music, like it's therapy, yeah, in a lot of way, correct?
SPEAKER_04:Right? For sure, for sure. And you know, it's interesting. It's like I've I was talking to somebody not long ago about it, and you know, my parents, my mom and dad passed away pretty close to each other, 2011 and 2013. And then that's when my musical journey really kind of started to go. And it's kind of funny, like their passing was the inspiration for my writing. It's when the poetry started flowing, it's when the songwrites, songwriting started to to form. It's just it just, yeah, like my my whole universe changed, and then therefore I was like just kind of uh finding uh therapy through songwriting and music and stuff, and so uh, you know, it was kind of born from that. Um, and so the reason the album's called Family Tree is because a lot of the songs have to do with my family. Uh, so you know, uh Hearts and Hands is about my mom, Key to Life was from the saying of my grandmother, Standing on the Shoulders came from a conversation that I had with my grandmother on the way to work one morning. Uh Flying Free is about my dad passing away. Um, instantly is about dreaming about my mom. And instantly was the first song I wrote. And I wrote it probably a month after she passed away in 2011, and it literally just came out. I it's hard to explain. Songwriting is a really weird thing, you know, it's just kind of gumps.
SPEAKER_02:It's a very personal album. Yeah, and I kind of and I kind of felt that listening to it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and so you know, it it was uh putting that album together, recording it, releasing it to the world was kind of like a way for me to say, okay, here it is, right? Like this is what I went through. I want to share it with the world. Um, and now that that you know has been released and is behind me, my songwriting style is changing a little bit. You know, I'm writing songs about other things other than my parents, and my songwriting's kind of sad. You know, like I just I kind of write about sad stuff, but I it's just what comes, you know. It's like uh it's something that people can connect to. Um, I think we're all going through something all the time, you know. Uh so I feel like my songs people can connect to, but they are they can be on the sad side.
SPEAKER_02:Right, right. Yeah, I think one one was a little upbeat, I'll say. I can't remember the exact name of it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the the the first song, Down to the Water. Yeah, well, that that one and everything. That was pretty upbeat.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. Other than that, just get a 12-pack of beer and sit in and drown in your sorrows.
SPEAKER_04:It's supposed to, it's supposed to take you on a journey, you know. I when I was a kid and and I would get like a new album, a new, you know, you save up all your money to get a new CD or whatever, and you hit play and you just let it go, right? Like you're not skipping songs. So to me, uh, you know, you want it to have a flow. It has highs and lows, and you can't just be up here all the time on your songs. It can't just be like high energy all the time, it can't be low energy, it has to have a flow. And so, you know, I tried to create that with the the organization of the the songs and where they are on the album so that it's kind of takes you on a journey, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Nice. Well, it sure did. So also you have another alb you're working on another album, right?
SPEAKER_04:I am, yeah. Yeah, I got 12 songs. Uh I'm not quite finished, um, but I'm definitely probably two-thirds of the way there. I don't have a timeline or anything. I'm just kind of moving through it. But uh, yeah, no, I love it. I feel like my songwriting has evolved. Um uh so I'm excited to release it whenever it happens. Um, because it's definitely a big growth time in my songwriting and playing and and and everything.
SPEAKER_02:So, like any special guests, like big names on any songs?
SPEAKER_04:You know, I mean, I feel like my album has big names on it, you know. Uh Dave Johnson from Yonder Mountain String Band played banjo and co-produced the last album. Um the producer, John McVeigh at Cinder Sound, you know, they're Grammy nominated. And and uh, you know, Yonder um did their does their albums with John as well, and they all together were nominated like two years ago for a Grammy. Um, nice. You know, and I mean all the guys are amazing on that album. Alex Johnson, Greg Garrison, James Dumb, Eric Moon. I mean, they're all fantastic. Adam Angelov played electric guitar on three songs. He's the guitar player in Yonder Mountain String Band. He usually plays acoustic guitar, but he played electric on a couple songs. So, I mean, it's pretty good. And I have the majority of those people coming back. I have a different bass player, um, Brad Morse. He plays with the gasoline lollipops that he's playing. Um but mostly the same people on this new album. I I do have a couple new uh a new instrument, a couple new instruments I have uh that that weren't on the last one. I have a fiddle on a couple songs and um and a pedal steel guitar, but I don't have that recorded yet, so I can't share with you who that's gonna be.
SPEAKER_02:Right, right.
SPEAKER_04:Because it's not it's not done.
SPEAKER_02:See, so that's that bluegrass roots.
SPEAKER_01:Bluegrass and blues for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did you get to be featured and do the opening um Star Spangled Banner at the Rockies game?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we gotta talk about that.
SPEAKER_01:You know, it was a bucket list item.
SPEAKER_04:I didn't know I wanted you know, Mark Mark, I I'm gonna tip my hat to Mark Malvey for for uh helping me. Is that Katie's husband? That's Katie's Mark's from Winchester. You probably know him. Mark went to Hanley, he graduated in I don't know, two thousand one maybe. Something like that. Um Mark sent me a video of this girl last year. Singing the national anthem and she just botched it pretty bad. Um, it's a really hard song to sing, so I can't really give shade to anybody that has messed it up. But um, he sent me this video and I just was like, man, I I could probably even I could do better than that, you know, as a joke. And he was like, All right, then do it. And so I contacted the Rockies and they were like, Well, you gotta, we already have it planned for this year. You can you can hit us up next year. And uh a friend gave me the right email of the person that who actually does the booking, and so I was able to find out who it was that I needed to email. And I emailed them, kind of not really expecting to hear back. She emails me and said, you know, here's this opportunity. Would you like to do it? And full disclosure, my grandmother had just passed away. I was like in the trenches and I was back home kind of dealing with some stuff, and I get this email, and I'm like, oh man, that's really cool. Like, I'm not gonna say no. My grandmother would be so stoked if I like you know, I'm not gonna say no, you know, even though I got all stuff going on. I said, Yeah, when do you want me to do it? And they like three weeks. It's like, all right, so I got three weeks to prepare. But you know, I I did it and it was awesome, and I'd love to do it again. It was fantastic, and uh yeah, after I got done, that's what I was saying was it was a bucket list item I didn't know I wanted in my life, but man, what an experience! It's really cool.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, man. I mean, that's awesome. When we saw, we're like, holy shit, it's like he's doing the damn national anthem in Iraqis game. It's like he's made he's made it now. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Is that is that is that the uh that's the barometer? That's how you uh I mean that that definitely I mean it's I mean it's pretty big to me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's big to me too, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. They have people like Kurt Cobain and Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston and shit. They don't just have regulars. Kurt Cobain sang the national anthem? Did he for real? It's only great musicians or famous people. They let them try and then use it. Hold on. We got we gotta iron this out. Did Kurt Cobain sing the national anthem? He tried. When I don't know, I don't remember exactly when we were kids, and I don't remember talking about it. Some some some tells me. I had a good time. Yeah, you were on national TV and everything, dude. That was dope.
SPEAKER_04:We me and Tom was telling everybody tune in, like you know, and if Mark Malvey didn't push me to do it, I I wouldn't have been so excited. So props to Mark. And you might do it again now. I mean, I would love to do it again. I probably would be a little bit more prepared than three weeks. Yeah, now you're gonna be a good one. You know, it's funny, it's one of those things where you're like, oh man, I it seems like not very much time. But then again, like, do you want six months to think about it? Probably not, you know. I don't want to be up four or five times. I want to stress about it, you know. But it was it was good. It was a very good experience. And I will say the Rockies organization was very welcoming, they were awesome. And uh in the mail, about a month later, came this like framed photo from the Rockies organization of me singing it, and I was real I thought that was a really cool gesture that they sent that to me. So it was really cool. Yeah. Did you ever perform in the Battle of the Bands at Hanley? No, no. In fact, funny story about that. Funny story about that. I used to have really bad stage fright. Like being a musician now in my life, it's kind of funny to look back and think about like that I how scared I was to like get up in front of the class and like read my book report or something, you know. But Mike R. Kulin, Mike R. Kullen asked me if I would play the intro on the harmonica to that weezer song. Um, and uh, I was like, yeah, so I practiced in my bedroom for like weeks, and then the day came and he's like, All right, let's go. And I'm like, nah, I can't do it. I can't do it, I can't do it, and I didn't do it.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't do it, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you know, uh, so that would have been my Mike's actually a good musician. He's fantastic, he's great. He's great. If he if if you play him a song and then you hand him the guitar, he'll play it. It's I don't know how he does it. He's done it forever. It's like some somehow he'll he like just figures it out. I don't know. Yeah, no, he's great, he's great, and he's an even better human being.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we'd love to have him on sometime too.
SPEAKER_03:We've been talking about we should totally have him on. I love him so much. Yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_02:Mike's a good dude. Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, I wanted to ask, you know, since we're getting short on time and we got Thursday night football in our own.
SPEAKER_03:We're not short on time. We got 25, 26 minutes.
SPEAKER_02:What I gotta I gotta keep I love it, but Justin Justin's loving it.
SPEAKER_03:Listen, Tony's gotta go make coffee, you know.
SPEAKER_02:No, he's actually I'm drinking water because I have a uh not urinary tract, if uh kidney stones, small kidney stones. We'll just put it out there. Uh I gotta suck this water down.
SPEAKER_04:Well, when we're not on air, I'll I'll send you a phone number somewhere to help you with that. That's okay. That's not the same series. I'm serious. Right. I'm serious.
SPEAKER_02:But uh anyway, I wanted to ask you, what are you listening to these days? Like any like anything, like what's in your playlist right now? All right.
SPEAKER_04:So I've been really listening to okay, so music-wise, I've been listening to Tyler Childers' new uh album, Snipe Hunter. It was produced by Rick Rubin. I love Tyler Childers, his songwriting is amazing. He kind of was born out of this like Kentucky country, bluegrassy, well, more country. Um and now this new album with Rick Rubin producing it, it's kind of like almost got like this really big band style sound. But his songwriting is so catchy, and uh like you have to really, really pay attention to understand what he's singing about. It's really cool. So I've been digging that album a lot, but if you want the real answer, I've been listening to a lot of books on grief because my grandmother passed away. And so a lot of people a lot of people don't like to talk about death and grief and that kind of stuff. I'm not afraid to talk about it, but we don't have we don't have to talk about it that long. But I've been listening to a lot of audio books on uh grief and people who have crossed over and how to deal with that, and uh a lot of like uh just kind of books on wisdom and Ram Das and things like that. So I've been kind of ravaging a lot of books on that. Um and I listen to audiobooks, that's why I say I'm listening.
SPEAKER_02:Right, right.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, that hey, that's how you deal with it and cope with it, and that's how you learn your thing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's good. But uh uh Rod's Dread Panic just released a great album from the 90s, uh, like a live album from the 90s that I've been listening to. Um I listened to a lot of the Drunken Hearts albums. Uh they have some great stuff that came out a year or so ago. So I love those guys. Um yeah, just been kind of digging into to whatever comes out. Right, new new music.
SPEAKER_02:Right. Well, have you well my my you know, I'll give mine, Chris. Do you have a list of what you've been listening to? Anything?
SPEAKER_01:It's not anything new. Yeah, that's it. Well, it doesn't matter. Come on, like what do you listen to?
SPEAKER_02:Pit us with it. Like I said, what's what do you listen to on the regular? At least not right now.
SPEAKER_01:Like Justin's saying, like with audiobooks and stuff, I listen to mostly podcasts and stuff, so because I'm at work so much, and then when I get home it's late night, so there's nobody to hang out with, there's nobody around. The wife, the kid, the friends, everybody's asleep. So I watch a lot of podcasts, but most of mine are entertainment-wise. So it's Dylan's.
SPEAKER_04:Which ones do you watch? Like uh Burt Kreischer and stuff like that, or I'll be honest with you, I don't know who that is.
unknown:What?
SPEAKER_02:He just turned us on then.
SPEAKER_01:Tony, he said, what? Hold on, hold on, real quick, Justin. Tony, do you know who that is?
SPEAKER_02:Justin said, No, I don't. I've never no. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:First of all, I will but we don't know who that other person is either.
SPEAKER_04:So who is this? Listen, when you when when you have this time you just spoke about tonight when all everybody's going to sleep, go go and watch Bert Kreisher stand-up. Yeah, it's like K-R-E-I-S-C-H-E-R or something like that. Okay. He is hilarious. He is so funny. So he's a fantastic comedian, but he also does podcasts. And his podcasts are great. He has musicians on. Um, so I watched some of his stuff where he has musicians on. He's awesome. Um, and I can actually say that he's a nice person because I met him this summer at a widespread panic concert of all places, and he was a really cool dude. He was very down-to-earth, very nice. Um, and for as famous as he is, you just never know. But he was really cool. Yeah, Burt Kreischer, man. He was awesome. Okay. What podcasts are you listening to, then?
SPEAKER_01:I'm interested. I'm gonna be honest. There's people I listen to that I don't always know who they are, but I find them all the time. There's this one skinny white kid. He's not a kid, he's probably in his 30s. He jokes and calls anybody out, but he uses the audience very well. So I watch his a lot.
SPEAKER_02:Chris is like me. He he knows the face, but not the name.
SPEAKER_01:And I'll watch people from the area. There's this guy, this white guy from like Strasburg Central area. He's got his podcast, Josh Kirby. Our buddies that that actually is Tony's brother-in-law, Dwayne. They have a sports podcast, like, and they're from Berryville. So I watch little things like that. But he passes the time by and I try to be supportive. But I'll definitely tune in to Bert because you know I can't knock anything until I watch it and listen.
SPEAKER_04:He is hilarious.
SPEAKER_01:Just go watch his stand-up. Go watch stand-up. I would have loved George Carlin all the time.
SPEAKER_04:And now I love to watch it. Fantastic, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that is one when I was younger, I would watch a lot of stand-up. Uh Chris Rock, Bigger and Blacker, has to be one of the best stand-ups of all time.
SPEAKER_01:Then he's smaller than Blacker, but that's cool.
SPEAKER_04:Nah, and then uh, you know, like the early Dave Chappelle stand-up stuff, you're killing him softly. Ah, right.
SPEAKER_01:Well, Dave Chappelle Dave Chappelle's one of the fires as comedians. He doesn't give a fuck. I love that about him.
SPEAKER_04:He's amazing. You know what though? I think he does, and I think that everybody thinks that he doesn't, and he's like, No, I do care, and that's but I'm also gonna make a joke about it so that you get so that you get the joke, you know. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, that's his own take on it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. So my favorite actor comedians, if we have to get into that part real quick, would be Bernie Mack and John Candy. And that's not a comedy I think.
SPEAKER_02:Chris loves doing lists, Justin, like top five, top ten, anything.
SPEAKER_01:So, just in general, though, I'll there's a documentary coming out on October 6th of John Candy, and it's fucking done by Ron Reynolds. Oh man, somebody, dude, it's about John Candy. I'm excited for it. It'll be great.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think anybody could have guessed that those would be your two favorite, though. You got Bernie Mac and John Candy.
SPEAKER_02:You brought two opposite sides of the spectrum.
SPEAKER_01:They're fucking awesome. They're they're fantastic. Yeah, they're also they're from my childhood, though. So I think I'm very nostalgic, and I love to go back to my childhood. So that's why I'm Guns N' Roses. My first battle of the bands I heard was Welcome to the No, it was it was Welcome to the Jungle, and and another band that did um that same night at Hanley in '99. No, ninety-nine, eighty-nine was also wild things. By Tone Lowe.
SPEAKER_05:Wow, man.
SPEAKER_01:But it was the first night, and that ever since then, Battle of the Bands has been like fucking dope to me at Hanley. You want to go back to Battle of the Bands.
SPEAKER_03:I thought we were gonna talk about funky Cole Medina or something.
SPEAKER_02:Right, right.
SPEAKER_03:Same artist.
SPEAKER_02:But I'll give my little list I actually made like what I'm listening to these.
SPEAKER_03:I probably I could probably tell tell you Tony's top five from the 90s myself.
SPEAKER_02:Well, well, but what I'm listening to today, of course, uh Kendrick Lamar is on my list. He's there, and then I'm in and then I'm on a big Fleetwood Mac kick right now. Oh, Stevie Nick. Oh, dude. Like, I'll yeah, I'm on a big Fleetwood Mac kick right now.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And then uh Ryan Bingham, I love too.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. Well, you watch Yellowstone or something.
SPEAKER_02:I did, but I got at whatever. I can never finish anything. I watched like the first two seasons and stopped. And then uh Lamb of God, another one. Yeah, you know, it depends on what mood I'm in, but dude, they're me they're they're amazing. Like they're still what in their 50s something and making amazing music. Who?
SPEAKER_04:What's the fifth one?
SPEAKER_02:Deftones. Have you checked out their new album? Bro, have you checked out their new album, Private Music? Dude, they're more popular. You gotta look. Jason said this to me, my brother. Every single song on their album is on the Billboard charts.
SPEAKER_04:I'll have to check it out.
SPEAKER_02:Every single song. Yeah, they've they've gotten better as they've aged. That's just unheard of. Like, yeah, all their every song is on the the charts. I love that.
SPEAKER_04:I love this uh well-rounded, eclectic five different types of music.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because he said Deftones, Fleetwood Mac, and Kendrick Lamar. That's a wide variety.
SPEAKER_02:But I love everything. I listen, and it depends on what mood I'm in. When I would listen to it.
SPEAKER_01:But I only like older music, and I know that's wrong, but unless it's Justin and my friends, like you know, Luca and all these other people I know, I don't really listen to new stuff because unless when I listen to it, I'm just like, uh, dude, there's what our parents and our caretakers and that generation said, what the fuck are you kids listening to?
SPEAKER_02:Not really. But there's still some great music, and you'd agree, Justin. New music coming out.
SPEAKER_04:I think it kind of I think there's a lot of really good music out there. I don't think it usually makes it to the radio. Yeah, so we're not listening to go find it. Uh that's the only way I hear new music.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you know, I don't sit there and listen to the album music anymore.
SPEAKER_04:No, it's true. It's true. It is hard. Well, I I wish I had a better way to switch. So we gotta get your album back there, mate.
SPEAKER_01:Jess, we gotta get your album out there. And if me and Tony can help in any way, man, we're gonna try our best. Oh, I appreciate that. We've got a new one coming, so and like you said, there's no specific date, which is great. Just know it's coming. In the meantime, listen to Family Tree.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, in the meantime, listen to Family Tree for sure. Yeah, I went on a um a radio show a couple months back, which was cool, up in um in Fort Collins, which is like an hour north of here. So I went went and played some songs on there. That was cool, and kind of talked about the album for uh uh 45 minutes, an hour or something like that. So that was fun. Um, I had an album release party at Wibby Brewing a couple months ago, well, the beginning of August, and I um my friends uh The Drunken Hearts also played that show. So, you know, I'm getting out and kind of promoting it a little bit. Uh I mean I think the real thing would probably have to be put some money behind marketing and publishing, but it's uh I at the moment I'm just letting it organically happen, which means slow to know.
SPEAKER_02:Well, like Chris said, with our 10,000 followers, man, you're gonna be out there now.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:What do you mean? I mean I'm just lighting them off. Here's some troops, sir. Are you hiring? Am I hiring? What am I hiring? What am I hiring?
SPEAKER_04:What you just said you need. What do I need? Oh, marketing and publishing?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, more yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, well, I'd have to find a financial backer first. Let me let me get the money. You know, shorty can't eat no books. Let me get the money first, you know. Well, let's go on Shark Tank, dude. Fuck that.
SPEAKER_02:Shark Tank.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's a that leads to something like if you're ever like American Idol or something like that.
SPEAKER_04:I'll give him everything. I'll be like, I'm seeking a million dollars for a hundred percent of my investment. You can have fuck it. I need to do my work. You can have everything.
SPEAKER_02:Right. So, but that's the thing. Have you ever like auditioned for American Idol or any show like that? America's got talent. Or thought or thought or thought about, yeah, America's Got Talent. That's another one.
SPEAKER_04:Um, I've never even thought about it. No. Well, you might fucking blow up, dude. After this show.
SPEAKER_03:Is that what I'm supposed to do next?
SPEAKER_04:Is this the universe telling me?
SPEAKER_01:Well, which one should I do? Which one should I do? You could be wherever you want. And Sancho Pay with your nuts in the sand, whatever.
SPEAKER_02:Jeez, somebody else don't you don't you love his metaphors?
SPEAKER_01:Somebody else is in Bowen Springs right now. Somebody's watching after your estate and everything is great.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, you know, I'm gonna have to buy me a plane ticket. I'm heading out to San Chope tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01:I've never been there, I've just heard it's nice.
SPEAKER_02:I've seen pictures.
SPEAKER_01:I haven't been there either.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, dude, the best thing I know is Half Moon Beach. Like, I don't know a lot. Oh my god. Is that place still around?
SPEAKER_02:No, no.
SPEAKER_04:Dude, I used to go out there and with my walk man and I would put listen to Great White. You remember Great White?
SPEAKER_02:Oh shit.
SPEAKER_04:Oh man, baby.
SPEAKER_03:Oh man, that oh I love my mom loved Hadley.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you know where Tony still goes all the time with the kids is fucking watermelon park.
SPEAKER_04:Dude, the there's a bluegrass uh there's like a music festival there every year. That was let me give you a little history here. That that uh music festival goes back 50, 60. I mean, I think like Johnny Cash played there. Like it was like a fantastic place. And then I found out not long ago that my dad and his band played at Watermelon Park, like in the in like the earth like the 2000s, like the early odds. I'm like, damn man, where was I? I was just off doing hood shit, I guess. Yeah, right. I'm like, damn, my dad was playing at Watermelon Park, man. Where was I?
SPEAKER_01:I might have been down there and be like, I'm gonna go to the house. I want some snacks.
SPEAKER_04:Now, what did your dad play? He played guitar and sang. And the club, the clubhouse gang is what their band was called. Well, they had a bunch of different they had they had the NVG band, which meant not very good band. They had some pretty good the clubhouse gang band. He had some pretty good, they just played for fun.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_04:But the fact that they got on at Watermelon Park, I was like, wow, that's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_02:That's pretty cool. Right. So, Chris, you got anything else for Justin?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, what platforms you can go and listen to your music and download it right now and help support you. Yeah, I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_04:Uh, well, if you want to buy vinyl, you can uh hit me up. You can hit me up on my email, JustinGarbermusic at gmail, and I'll mail you one. JustinGarbermusic at gmail. Yep, that you can hit me up on there and I'll I can sell you a vinyl and send it through the mail. Um, that's the best way to listen to it. I mean, I'm telling you, you put it on a vinyl record player, it is it sounds so good on there. Um, you know, I'm on all the streaming platforms.
SPEAKER_03:Spotify, Venture. Name one, I'm on it. Yeah, got yeah.
SPEAKER_04:When when when when the distributors distribute the music, it goes out to everybody. And so it's on I'm on all of the different streaming platforms, including you. Do you have a connection with Rick Rubin?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, how cool would that be?
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_01:You said you was kind of like working with him or something, dude.
SPEAKER_04:No, no, no, no, no. I'm not working with Rick Rubin. My God.
SPEAKER_02:Well, we're gonna talk it into existence.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, let's manifest.
SPEAKER_01:Let's manifest. Dude, if you get Rick Rubin, man, you can make it.
SPEAKER_02:Now, now hold on. All right, one more question. So, what would be like their uh dream artists, I guess, to work with? Me? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Oh man. I think right now, uh Jason Isbull, Tyler Childers, or Sturgil Simpson. You know, those guys are I just love their music. I love their songwriting. Um and I they're like kind of like independent artists, like they're not like um attached to like these big record labels and stuff. They kind of they're not the record labels aren't telling them what what to do. So they're you know, all their songs are very uh exactly what they want them to be. Right. Um, and that's kind of how I do. I mean, uh everything I do is paid independently through me, nobody's telling me what to do. Um but their songwriting is just amazing. So yeah, that'd probably be the big three right now. It'd be awesome. Manifest it for me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna make it happen right here on Brothers with Opinions.
SPEAKER_04:That's it.
SPEAKER_02:Brothers with Opinions, it's my life. It could, it could, it's 100% good.
SPEAKER_04:And vice versa, you can help me. I have no doubt. I have no doubt. Now, Chris, you lied to me. You said that we were gonna have some special guests on here. Where are they?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Chris.
SPEAKER_01:Just like snow in Arizona, the flakes come and go, man. He's just making this up as he goes.
SPEAKER_02:He's good, man. He's good.
SPEAKER_03:He was trying to tell me the old high school gym coach is coming on here. Oh Mr. Norman said he's he's running late.
SPEAKER_02:Mr. Norman. Jeez. My dude. Go.
SPEAKER_01:He was cool, though. He was cool though. Mr. Norman he lives in the area of West Regina that's like Blair Bush area. Yeah, no, yeah, Norman went off supposedly he's off the grid right now.
SPEAKER_02:He's still alive. But he's off the grid.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I'm not sure. But now Tony, I thought like Ray, uh what um fucking Lucas Hudson or someone's supposed to come, but it's all good.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it'll be it'll be next time, Justin. We'll have all them people.
SPEAKER_04:I I do want I do want to say I appreciate you guys having me on here and uh being patient for the next one. We'll get Mikey R. Yeah, dude. I'm telling you. And now listen, there's not gonna be a more entertaining episode than Mike R. Kulin coming on here. He he is so funny.
SPEAKER_02:Well, Justin, you were you were fun and entertaining yourself, man. You had you haven't changed a bit. To me, you don't look like you've aged a bit. You know, you got facial hair, but you look the same as 20, 25 years ago.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, I'm gonna give you some good truth from too. You see where I'm at? In an enclosed box. So are you? He's outside in the sun. There's a difference.
SPEAKER_04:You know, Colorado's weather's terrible. Don't come out here. Hey, but you've been in the skin basket. You would hate it. Trust me, you'd hate it. Don't come out here.
SPEAKER_01:I'd work on the ski lobes. I work on the ski slopes and shit. I'd probably sell hot chocolate at the cabin. I mean, you know, sure.
SPEAKER_04:Go. You should.
SPEAKER_03:People don't need it when they get to the city. You guys come out. You guys, you guys are welcome at my home anytime. You know that.
SPEAKER_02:All right, Justin. Sounds good.
SPEAKER_03:I told Tony, man, tell Jason to meet us halfway.
SPEAKER_02:There we go. Yeah, there we go.
SPEAKER_03:I would love to. I'd love to see Jason to be.
SPEAKER_02:See, you and Jason can collaborate. Straight up. There you go. I'm trying to make it happen.
SPEAKER_04:I'll write some lyrics and then he can thrash metal.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, he got he got in the country for a while too. He had a band called Damn Family for a while. Did he? Oh, yeah. Check it out. I gotta check that out. They're called Damn Family, and they they had like eight, nine members. They were like slitting out of country. But but no, but that dude, it's good. It was good shit, but they didn't last. That's funny. That's funny. I appreciate you guys. But yeah, man, I know you're at work too. You know, go out there and do something. But but hey, man, appreciate having a channel.
SPEAKER_01:Anybody want to shout out? Anybody you want to put on or whatever right now? Any events coming up?
SPEAKER_04:I um I'm playing at Zuni Street Brewing in December, December 3rd, I think it is. Um, I might be putting some Alaska dates together soon to go up with my buddy Andrew McConaughey uh of Drunken Hearts. Um, we might go up and do a duo up in the Anchorage area in November, uh, like a week or two before Thanksgiving. So we're trying to put those together. Um, I I want to shout out to you guys. Thank you for for you know helping me come on here and saying such kind words about the album. And Chris, I won't hold it against you that you haven't gotten through it yet, but you'll listen to it tonight.
SPEAKER_01:Tony was at home all day with a fucking heating pad on.
SPEAKER_04:I'm at hey, he was up all night drinking coffee, so he didn't have anything very much. Oh, yeah, you remember that, right?
SPEAKER_02:He didn't go to sleep since with me and my coffee.
SPEAKER_01:That's why Wayne still works at Alec Myers, because Tony keeps buying.
SPEAKER_02:All right, show's over.
SPEAKER_04:I appreciate you guys. Hope you have a great night. And uh, hey, let's do it again sometime. Hey, appreciate you, man.
SPEAKER_03:We appreciate you, man.
SPEAKER_02:Thanks. Take care, man. We'll keep in touch.
SPEAKER_03:That sounds good. Thanks, guys. Yep, no problem, man. Talk to you soon. All right, later.
SPEAKER_02:So, Chris, there was Justin Carver. It's fun having him on, man. Having talked to that man. 25 years.
SPEAKER_01:That's wild. That's why, like, we we need to get Mikey Arculan on, like we've been talking about.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, we will. We'll make it happen. We'll get him.
SPEAKER_01:And you see why he's like, Where's Wayne and Zab and all them? I'm like, dude, I don't know, snowflaked.
SPEAKER_02:Right, right. So, Chris, hey, as always, man, and enjoyed the show and enjoy everybody for tuning in, or thank everybody for tuning in to YouTube. Please subscribe to our channel. You can follow us on Facebook, Spotify, Pandora, Apple Music. Yeah, because I'll upload the audio of this later too as well, so everybody can check us out. But yeah, hey man, it was fun.
SPEAKER_01:I won't be here. I'm gonna be celebrating my young lady's birthday and uh be out of town finally. Been working my ass off.
SPEAKER_02:I'll be solo.
SPEAKER_01:Tony's gonna be going solo, but he's gonna have a guest on. If somebody wants to join him in the meantime, holler at him, let him know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we'll figure it out.
SPEAKER_01:Man, but yeah, next week, 7 p.m. It don't matter if I'm on or not. Tony's gonna keep it going. And um, you guys want to be a guest, man? Like you said, we email us at brothers of dependence.gmail, uh, email Tony's email, my email. Like, call us, let us know, man. And we know it's hard to subscribe because it takes two seconds to hit the subscribe button, it don't cost nothing. And we know that it's hard to support people that's from the area because we don't have birthdays. Like we all say in fucking Larry Bird. You guys should think about it. Like, you know, people that grew up on O'Brien and King Street and Metal Breaks. Like, maybe you should point somebody else. But uh in the meantime, I'm gonna keep talking about shit because that's what I do. I love y'all. I'm gonna join our Thursday night football game.
SPEAKER_02:Alright, man. Hey, it was it was fun. And everybody would tune in next week. I don't have a surprise, guess I'll find somebody. But hey, everybody, enjoy. Alright, everybody. Take care and have a great evening. I thought you love it.
SPEAKER_00:Alright, man, I appreciate it. Brothers with opinions, big voice, no silence. Revolution televised. Ain't no good in private. Knowledge to the ignorant. Ain't never been bliss. Stand up and be heard. We the new activists. Yeah. Brothers with opinion, let the convo begin. You know communication key, but then you must comprehend. Breach BW roll, let your voices be heard. We enlightened by the truth, and now we spreadin' the word. How do we learn to live when we conditioned to die? Most people fail before they start. Because they don't ever try. Man, they told us we was worthless. We believed in the lie. We took it way too little and beats that ready to die. You know the KKK, turn the cops in disguise. Man, a lot done, change, but rate still applies. Five-hold, hands up, don't even ask why. Trade wrong, Mike Brown, man. Another mother's cry. Hey, BW roll, let the convo begin.
unknown:You know communication.
