Brothers with Opinions -B.W.O.
Four friends discussing Winchester, VA news and topics. Debating political issues, news, social injustice and anything that is up for debate in our world.
Brothers with Opinions -B.W.O.
From Court to Community: Confronting Injustice and Celebrating Triumphs
What if our collective voices could reshape the future?" Join us as we confront global and local injustices, from the complex tapestry of conflict in Palestine to the pressing need for reparations in Black communities. Our conversation threads through the historical and ongoing struggles, questioning the role of media manipulation, systemic racism, and hate in shaping today's societal tensions. We challenge listeners to consider the power of unity and awareness, pushing for a world where economic empowerment and racial equity are not just ideals but achievable realities.
With a dramatic shift from global issues to local triumphs, we shine a spotlight on the electrifying world of high school basketball. Celebrating Handley's undefeated 18-0 season, we break down the thrilling action and strategic mastery that have paved their way to success. Our analysis doesn't just stop at the scoreboard; we delve into the team dynamics, the coaching prowess of Zach, and the extraordinary potential of standout player Christian. The drama on the court reflects the broader themes of talent, perseverance, and community spirit.
As the narrative unfolds, economic resistance and grassroots activism take center stage. We propose radical ideas for financial protests against corporate giants and advocate for a shift towards supporting local economies and sustainable living. Engaging with the challenges posed by regulatory barriers and the suppression of technological innovation, we explore how collective action can lead to transformative change. Wrapping up with a call for community engagement, we remind our listeners of the power of being informed and active participants in shaping a just and equitable society.
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Speaker 2:Man. A lot of people talk, but they ain't never walked apart. Gotta shine a light on poverty and fight against injustice and always speak the truth when the enemies are. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Y'all know what time it is. It's time to wake up and be like I ain't got no job today. But on to the topics we're going to get into with the only podcast y'all need to tune into from Wink City the BWO and what's that.
Speaker 2:Stand for Ladies, make it what you want, but it's just for entertainment purposes only. Like my man Twin says, bwo stands for Brothers With Opinions, so don't get all in your feelings. If you don't care for what we got to say, just give us some feedback or tune us out. But either way, don't hate, because it ain't gonna get you nowhere. We're gonna get into palestine today, and that's all about hate. We're gonna get into reparations that's also about hate. And, uh, we're gonna get into the super bowl. We're gonna get into some high school sports talk and chop it up about how things have been going from spring mills to hanley and the big game coming up between those two, because, skyline, much as we love those young boys over there, they ain't show up. So let's get right into it, fellas, tony, kick us off baby.
Speaker 3:Jeez. All right, man, I appreciate it. That's good stuff. So we'll start off with our local high school basketball scores, like we always do because everybody loves it. We'll start with on Monday, february 3rd, musselman defeated Sharando 57-49. Warren County over Manassas Park 66-50. Millbrook over Liberty 92-71. On Tuesday night you had Kettle Run defeat Princeville 77-39. I think that's the most points Kettle run scored all year. Sharando over Warren County 57-42. Hanley over James Wood 85-46. And Falk here over Liberty 75-51. And on to Wednesday you had Meridian defeat Armstrong 71-48. Thursday you had Meridian defeat Armstrong 71-48. Thursday you had James Wood defeat Warren County in a close one, 51-50. Skyline defeated Manassas Park 84-33. And then our Friday night slate was Millbrook over James Wood 68-52. Falkier over Kettle Run 60-32. Meridian over Princeville 87-10. Hanley over Skyline the game everybody was waiting for. But Hanley won 84-53. Warren County over Manassas Park 61-45. So that's your Virginia score. So we can't forget about West Virginia, our neighbor we had.
Speaker 3:Let me hold on hold, on hold, on hold, on hold, on hold on, because I'm lunching. Give me a second. Everyone, but everybody. What do you think about that? What did you think about that Hanley game? Thoughts Wayne.
Speaker 4:Hanley and.
Speaker 3:Skyline, because it was the game of the week while I get this, initially was Huh.
Speaker 4:First quarter was fire. After that I don't know where the coach for Skyline went. I think he went to the locker room or something. He got outcoached from the second quarter to the fourth man. If anybody's listening up from front row, fire that guy.
Speaker 3:Oh Lord, that's harsh man, that's harsh Fire, that guy man.
Speaker 4:No, I will say it was a good game, man. Big up to Hanley. Man Started the season off 18-0, something that has never been done in John Hanley history. So big ups to those guys. I was at the game. I'm going to call it out now my man, kyron, don't take anything personal man, just keep playing basketball man. You can't worry about fans man, fans can get you right out your game real quick. So just keep playing ball man. But keep up the good work, man, and I'll be looking forward to that. Spring Mills versus Hamming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, hopefully that happens, because there's a huge snowstorm coming.
Speaker 4:Yeah and they're watching Kansas. It'll never happen.
Speaker 3:So everybody's anticipating that. Hopefully it happens this Wednesday, but now we're anticipating a huge snowstorm. It might not happen.
Speaker 4:You said Spring Mills is number one in the state of West Virginia.
Speaker 3:Yeah, as far as I know, number one or two, then Morgantown. Wow, because them and Morgantown have played twice and they split. They're a lot amongst each other.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I haven't seen those guys, but I mean I've heard that they got some athletes Mm-. I haven't seen those guys, but I mean I've heard that they got some athletes.
Speaker 3:Oh, they do, they got some ballplayers. It should be a really good game, definitely not going to miss that one, my brother Tucker, you better be streaming that game. Yep.
Speaker 2:Stream. I streamed that last game. Yep, you enjoyed it, I've seen y'all sitting on the sideline with Bullet and Dre and all of them Little Cab Bang Out. I've seen all y'all over there. I've seen Big Pat over there.
Speaker 3:All the stars came out.
Speaker 2:I've seen a couple blocks in a row and a baseline dunk by my man, christian Denges, out there. I've seen Kyron getting to the basket and getting foul shots a lot, so those two young men were doing pretty good in the second half. Will did a lot of damage in the first half, but yeah, man, you might be right because I didn't get to see everything. But coaching could make a big difference, and it does. But they got too many athletes and a lot of young talent in Skyline. They should be the second-best team in the area. Their record-wise they probably are, but they couldn't compete with them at all. Once Hanley made them the adjustments shout out to Zach man because they made adjustments and Christian and Kyron started going to work and they used their size on them.
Speaker 4:They took.
Speaker 2:Will out the game, so to speak. If you can say 36 points, is taking him out the game, but you know what I mean. He ain't do much in the second half and didn't need to, man. But yeah, that that's a well-rounded team, even though obviously they don't always play team ball because will gets a bulk of the shots, but when they go to them other kids, man, they're deadly. Like I'm waiting for jayvon to get off and amari's not even there right now, like hanley's deadly.
Speaker 2:But like you said, man, I don't know what they're going to do to people Like. I want to see them play Hampton, man, because I don't know how we're playing them in the region like, or the state, whatever it is, fellas, we would have never played them when me and Wayne was coming up and I'm surprised. So I want to see what they do against somebody like different man, like we got ballplayers, but it's different in the water. So, tony, what you think, man, because you go to all the games, you think we're ready for somebody that's like Hampton and Phobos and some of them schools we might have to play to win it all.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I think you pretty much said it all, you know, I think they're a well-rounded team. You, you know they're all ball players, they all have high IQs, so, like you said, you touched on it it's just play a little more team. You know, offensively I'd like to see a little more ball movement Because, like you say, they play together Like ball movement. All of them can score and it's not just a starting five, it's down to the bench Other than that. But they play great defense and for the most part sometimes they'll slack, but I mean, overall they play a great defense but a lot of pressure they run the floor and I want to chime in on what you said like a little more team offense.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying Like they have so many good players, though, tony Like that, ball should be touching every player's hand. Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 3:At least once during a possession In the game.
Speaker 4:Only two or three people touch the ball.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean we both coach, right. It's like you're always taught, like every coach I've had too. It says, on offense, every offensive player should at least touch it once, right, like if you set up a play, play you should move the ball movement around at least. And I'm not saying, okay, I understand, you got an open shot, take it, but for the most part, right, every kid should touch the ball at least once.
Speaker 4:And by doing that, tony, you get easier baskets like. Don't make things harder than what it needs to be.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I mean, but that's the only thing that I could see could get a lot better with hanley is just the ball movement. You know what I mean. Because, like, all these players are moving without ball. You know I'm saying so, but they're never touching it. It's like what is the point of them moving around cutting towards the bucket if they're not gonna even attempt to pass in there? There was a a few plays I've seen where christian cut back door. He was wide open but nobody saw him. You know I'm saying so. You know it's more so of moving the ball and keeping your head up at the same time, man. So like, yeah, if you have these backdoor cuts and you're not watching the movement, you're never going to be able to make that pass. Agreed, I mean there's a lot of things that they can improve on. I mean everybody can improve.
Speaker 4:Oh, you can always improve, but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I mean God, you got three kids that scored in Double digits again Kyron, christian Will.
Speaker 2:Those three kids will probably all make First team, all districts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they probably will. But see, that's my thing.
Speaker 4:They all scored double digits. They all should be averaging high double digits, like I get it. Wheels averaging 28 or whatever. The christians should be averaging 20, caverns should be averaging 16 to 18, but that's not happening. You know, christians down what? What?
Speaker 3:13 points a game yeah, I think you average 12, 13 again you can easily drop 20 to 22 every night.
Speaker 4:Average that man. But when you don't get the ball movement that's necessary he's not going to get the shots to. To average a number like that I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2:He had six blocks that game and I went my whole time playing and everybody I love from the old school it's definitely happened, but I've never seen it. Man, none of them guys we play with wayne. I ain't never seen none of our boys get six blocks in the game. I'm like damn. And he just did it easy. Like the way duane, tucker and some of those guys they nice and they going up and christians was like give me that and they give me that.
Speaker 4:I'm like damn he does it easily because of the keyword tony said earlier. He has a high iq man. He got a lot of those blocks on help defense man. Like he's reading the floor defensively man, he's watching his man and watching everybody else, so he knows what's about to happen, man, and that's why he's there for those blocks, man.
Speaker 2:I also think he might've surpassed Kevin Curry Jr, because Kevin used to get a lot of dunks man Mike Brown too, but obviously he's not a big man. Christian gets about one to four dunks a game now and it's just like next year. I know this year we won him in the States, but next year he going to be windmilling and going crazy on him.
Speaker 2:man, this young man, tony Nola, shout out to you for having a seed like that and shout out to you being smart enough and in love with black women enough to know like, because your genes you know he got some athleticism in the tube man.
Speaker 2:But look man, next year I think he might just be coming back door and they're gonna see it. And jayvon and will, because they all come back they're gonna throw. He's gonna be catching reverse alley hoops back door windmilling on people, man. And I think next year Wayne, he might get his 20 and 10 a game. But this year overall it's kind of all about Will. That's cool, but I think even Will's going to realize, especially if Hanley can't beat the Hamptons and them coming down to the States, you better get people like Christian and Javon involved, because them kids can't hoop too Well that's why I'll give it to you, though, Tony.
Speaker 4:I'm going to back my man up because it is in his genes. His brother could jump, but Tony just didn't jump. I mean, it's in their genes, man, and that's where Christian gets that hype from man Jason's tall man.
Speaker 2:Tony's favorite time to jump when we was young was he tried to bunny hop on the bike and shit.
Speaker 3:Yep, that's about it, my skateboard. I'm doing ollies, that's it. That's the most air I ever got in my life, but no man.
Speaker 2:Christian's nice man and he makes it look easy. So I will be honest, christian's not as passive as some of the people I've seen that got a lot of talent. But sometimes he plays just like you know, goes through the motions and shit Like if he starts to get that true dog in him he will get 20 and 10 a game and it's going to be crazy and that would help Will and them out so much I know Zach knows it. They got a lot of talent, man, and Christian is number one on that team, probably in the district. That's why I wish I could be at that Spring Mills game with y'all, because they got a bunch of kids that's like that, so it's going to be interesting to see.
Speaker 2:Well, christian's just different.
Speaker 3:Even the coaches say it. It's like he's so quiet, he shows no emotion.
Speaker 4:He's unselfish. He's always been like dog in him. I know he does but he don't show.
Speaker 3:It is the funny thing he showed.
Speaker 4:He shows it when he comes and pipes on somebody we just say he's a silent assassin, was that? Baseline one hand drawing. Hey look, that showed you right there the dogs, any man?
Speaker 3:yeah, it's there I. What I like to see a little more of is him, you know, shoot a little more, because he'll pass up some shots sometimes when he should just catch and shoot like he usually does, because he does that all the time, but he just so is that a will brown doing factor?
Speaker 2:not and not that young man's fault, but because the system is designed right now to have that it could. I mean it's hard.
Speaker 3:It's hard for me to say anything because I'm not on the staff. I don't. You know what I mean. I don mean I don't get into it and want to know what their whole. I do, for the most part because I coach at Daniel, but it could be Maybe they're like oh, we got to wheel the ball. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4:I like the most part, the most that Christian's doing man and we both touched on him with it, you and I, tony. When he puts that ball on the floor, bro, once you put that ball on the floor, go. And he did that a lot against Skyline man. When he put the ball on the floor, he took off and if he didn't get a bucket he got fouled.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because that's the great thing with this team it's like they all can shot, like I was going back to the team it's like. J Javon was one night scored 16. Yeah, or something. You know he was getting his shots, Yep. Man Javon can shoot, they're all scared. It's like if you shut down, say a team shuts down Will, Okay, now you got to handle Christian or Javon or Kyron Then you shut down Like you have to pick your poison. Dude to pick your poison, they all can put it in the hoop man.
Speaker 4:You can do so many things with a group of kids that Hallie has right now. Like Tony said, we both coach, and then what you got coming off the bench too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, tony, and I Amari Isaiah.
Speaker 4:Tony and I you know, a lot of these guys that are on the bench will probably be on the floor.
Speaker 3:Yeah, those are coach. Oh yeah, you see what I'm saying. Oh yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:They're starters if they go to another school. Isn't Keyon on that team? Oh yeah, Keyon.
Speaker 3:I can't forget about Keyon. I love Keyon man. He was always. He plays hard. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. He always hustles, he does the little things. So Keyon's always been that glue guy too. He does all the little things right. Shoot even Brendan Campbell.
Speaker 4:Is he?
Speaker 3:number two, Keon. But is he number that's.
Speaker 4:Gina's son. Yeah, yeah, I think he was number two.
Speaker 3:But yeah, all of them know they're like yeah, they all to me. They play well, they do well together.
Speaker 2:Shit. My second unit I'd have. What's his name that?
Speaker 3:we just had on the podcast Jay Sean, I'd have him like like track the trailer and shit in there.
Speaker 2:You damn right yeah, and you ain't going D1 and not be no athlete. That kid, I'm putting him in the game.
Speaker 3:You give that boy the ball in the post, ain't nobody stopping him.
Speaker 2:Exactly, I'm using him to my advantage. Yeah, but yeah, Hanley's deep man. I don't know if they're ready for people like Hampton, but we're going to see. I think they're ready.
Speaker 3:I mean dude Zach's gotten them ready. I can praise him for that.
Speaker 2:He's gotten them ready over the summer. You know summer league Paul is sixth and John Marshall is sixth.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then playing in, you know, in other invitationals and stuff, like dude, they've played the John Marshalls, the St Paul, they played all them teams, all of them.
Speaker 4:They've seen tough talent, see, and that's why it's showing now. Yeah, because they've played schools like that.
Speaker 3:And then people want to talk about their schedule. Well, it's not their fault. It's a down year, whatever you want to say, but everybody else is playing the same schools, right?
Speaker 2:I ain't going to lie. Millbrook seems to be good. They're well coached.
Speaker 3:Oh, they're not bad, but Haley still blew the doors off of them.
Speaker 4:Because they got Eric Green right. Yeah, eric Green's their coach, so we already know what he did when he coached Earl Good.
Speaker 3:All right, moving on, guys. Enough about Haley, let's go judges the game Wednesday versus Spring Mills. Hopefully it happens, but tomorrow night they face James Wood first, not tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Big Ben Kane baby, they're 10-8,. Man, I didn't know they had a winning record. They're 10-8. Shout out to Ben Kane and his young boys, michael Bell and all them hey, ben Bates.
Speaker 3:But all right, let's not forget about West Virginia. Remember we got off. We're not really off topic, but these West Virginia scores in the panhandle you had Hedgesville over Southern 63-46. And, as I mentioned previously, musselman defeated Sharando Monday night, and then Martinsburg over Jefferson 63-56. Spring Mills over Washington 61-46. And Thursday night got nothing there. And then Friday night Washington over Jefferson 60-52. Spring Mills over Musselman 77-36. And Martinsburg over Hedgesville 43-35. There you go for our very West Virginia scores. So, like everybody said, the much anticipated Spring Mills versus Haley matchup Wednesday night. How much snow are we getting? They keep, they say it's a lot. I don't know. It's supposed to be. You know, start out as snow, then freezing rain and then turn into rain. So it's probably a mess. It'll be enough to mess everything up, probably Tuesday. Start out as snow, then freezing rain and then turn into rain. So it's probably a mess. It'll be enough to mess everything up, probably Tuesday night, and they won't have the game.
Speaker 2:That's what we got last night. We got like four inches but it's freezing rain and everything it's out there though.
Speaker 4:You're looking at about three to four inches coming Tuesday and then Wednesday they're saying another seven to eight on top of that, oh Lord. So Tuesday You're looking at at least 12 inches between two days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there you go. So you guys aren't playing that Spring Mills game.
Speaker 5:No, probably it doesn't look good. Guaranteed.
Speaker 2:If Winchester's not open, you can guarantee people that live in the panhandle and all those mountains they're not coming to school, they can't even get out their driveway.
Speaker 4:Anticipation will be a postponed game.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it'll be postponed. Well, I don't know if they'll even make it up. Snowblowers and shovels ready, I mean, I hope they make it up. You know, pick another day to shoot, every other Saturday or something.
Speaker 2:Hey look, ladies and gentlemen, don't worry If that game can't play and they got to get on to the districts and playoffs get those Martinsburg and Spring Mills kids ready. Man, We'll set it up with Wayne and Tony and Zeb over there at that Shenandoah. Man, they can play, we got it. There you go. It'll be after the season, but we got it. Man. Show for hoops for a whole race, a couple dollars for the kids in the community. Man, Look, Spring Mills, I want y'all to bring it because we big talking and hyping up Hanley over here. Let's go, we want some competition. Y'all nice, like that. Get your squad together, but don't be cheating and trying to grab some Martinsburg players too.
Speaker 3:That's another topic Moving on. So into? That's another topic moving on, so into uh what? Our first topic, guys, I guess, wayne, we can discuss the topic you wanted to talk about, these reparations for black community, black the, the black community in uh what, michigan? Yeah, it was like hamtrop hamtric, michigan. It happened years ago yeah, because I know this, this is heavy on europe. But yeah, all these reparations they're talking about giving to families and stuff like that. So what's all that that all about?
Speaker 4:well what I got from it. It happened around like the 1960, where they basically wiped out a black community and they were fighting for so many years trying to, you know, get their properties back, such as their homes and businesses, whatever they lost, and at the time that city was financially struggling. So that's what the prolonged civils lawsuit, that's how it occurred and it just got settled recently. And now you got to look at it like this A lot of these families that lost their home they're not even living. There's only a few people that are still living from those years and they just got reprimanded. They built her like a two-story home and they're finishing up like the last three homes, which is gonna cost like another million dollars, and they got most of the funding through like federal grants and state grants, so it was more of a money issue of paying the people back. That's why it it never got settled in the 1960s.
Speaker 3:So basically they destroyed a whole community is what this whole thing is about.
Speaker 4:Yeah, over like 200 homes it was. They were destroyed. They weren't going to do anything about it. Oh, of course that's when the Black community took it to the next level and filed a civil lawsuit and it just got oh, of course, do for this community. So they built that community back up. There's like 190 something homes already built, but who lives in them? I don't know, because I don't know if they gave it to the next of kent a family, because a lot of those people are not living. So yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I see here you're doing a little looking up a few things like californ is also like I think they say they're the first state to give reparations to the black community. Right, or tackle it, at least you know, start kicking it off. And then, of course, what we were talking about, oregon last night as well is another one where basically the whole state is nothing but white. Because what?
Speaker 4:blacks weren't even allowed in oregon until what, like the 1920s?
Speaker 3:yeah, it's great. It was great. I think it might have been later than that.
Speaker 4:Really, yeah, it's great yeah yeah and and that right there, just lets I mean that's a form of racism to me, you know, like it's only like. I mean, come on, man, like this world we're so divided man, we've got to get back to being a one nation man Like this is what they preach to us and I've never seen it as long as I've been living. I've never seen one nation. Long as I've been living, I've never seen One Nation. Nope, what do you guys think?
Speaker 5:No, I feel like it's getting worse too, Wayne. It's like they're trying to take us back to the 1960s, or something.
Speaker 3:What did you say last night, zeb, in our Zoom about Trump, who starts standing up and being all brave when he's in office?
Speaker 5:Well, yeah, it's different, like white supremacist groups.
Speaker 3:Right, hey, speak it, don't be shy.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's weird. It's not. I don't know if it's him or if it's just. The people feel more comfortable. I think the people feel more comfortable showing their face and acting up when he's president. It's weird.
Speaker 4:It's not like they're showing their face, they're scared to show their faces. A lot of these dudes. They come through, they got goggles on and hats and they try to disguise themselves. What we all know is white supremacists and we all know what happened when Donald Trump was in office the first time. Like you saw a lot more acts from white supremacists and groups like that. Like yeah, I remember charlottesville when they beat that one black kid to death with bats and uh, uh, two by fours and metal poles. Like and then don't forget about the student that ran all those people over man. Like it was a lot of white supremacist acts going on when Trump was in office, man, I feel like it's just a repeated cycle.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it makes things more divided. It goes back to what you were saying.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 5:It's funny how things were quiet for four years, yeah, and then it's starting again. Mm-hmm, it's weird.
Speaker 3:Well, it goes back to, you know, his first time in office. It's like for one to god, don't hold it. He says what he wants to say, which whatever is, but it's how he says it and then you know it comes across and he's white supremacist or kk, whoever starts it. Because, like you just said, dude, he's got their back right. How do you have a damn incident like january 6th happened? He pardons thousands of people for doing that, so of course now they're like man, we could do whatever the hell we want. It is just how people feel, right, I think I think he just wants their votes, tony I don't know of course, about, about what they believe in or anything like that.
Speaker 5:I just think he wants their votes.
Speaker 3:Oh, of course We've said this before Trump don't give a damn All the people that voted for him. He don't give a damn about them, he's about money.
Speaker 5:He's about making money and being powerful.
Speaker 3:My thing is he's been made derogatory remarks towards women minorities, and that's the problem. When you have your supposed leader of the country saying shit like he does, then of course people are going to come out those closet races. Now. They feel a little more braver now with, like you're the leader of your country, that they're saying stupid shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:Right, we should be past all this, though it's 2025. It shouldn't even matter anymore. It shouldn't even come up.
Speaker 3:Man we've said this since we was in middle school, high school, oh, it shouldn't. Wise are still man. We've said this since we was in middle school, high school Like, oh, it shouldn't. Yeah, wives are still raised blah, blah, blah. Dude, it's 2025. We're all at our 40s, it's still going on. It's like people just can't get past it. It's sad. It's so sad. Yeah, man.
Speaker 4:It makes you wonder, man, you know the people that they have in charge. Man, it's like they're trying to go back to the old ways. Man, the old ways was not good for the country, it was only good for certain people.
Speaker 3:Yep, you're right, chris, what you think you quiet.
Speaker 2:Well, a few things. One you guys are saying people are coming back out and this and that supremacist groups and stuff Guess what. That's true colors being shown. I also look at the January 6th incident as two things. One yes, I'm not for that whole thing, only because if it was any other ethnic group they would have had an issue and probably tried to fight and kill them, but all those so-called KKK people were able to storm the Capitol building. But what I would say on that other front is if we all came together as a people because, like Wayne just said, he ain't never seen a divided nation If we all came together we could take over and they proved it. They they took over with just rednecks and and kkk members. Imagine if everybody come together, like that video I was talking about the other week on the show with the rednecks and the black people came together and was like look, this is what they, they afraid of if we all come together and work, is one, and the truth is, if they can take over that capital building.
Speaker 2:We can fight our own government anytime we want, but we don't do it.
Speaker 5:As far as reparations goes.
Speaker 2:I won't really speak on that. I'm a firm believer in, I understand all of it, but I think everybody should be given the same, and that's me. I think everybody should be given the same kind of house for their family, free healthcare, free education, all this kind of thing, and it doesn't happen. So if they don't do that, they're not going to give people reparations like that man, they're just not, they don't care. And the truth is we all know the system is designed like that. They're not going to give us anything. They want to take things away. Yeah, it just took me damn near 42, 43 years to realize it's really not about everything I'm thinking it is because of how they brainwash us. It's more about rich and poor and it's not about rich. We all got rich friends and they not involved in that either, because they don't get killed off too. They not super rich, they just rich enough because they around us. So they look like they got money. Man, they ain't got no money on Elon and Mark Zuckerberg. They're going gonna wipe them out too.
Speaker 2:Even all the people meadow branch they not safe trust me, they not safe, they not on their level. No, they want that land.
Speaker 4:They taking all y'all out.
Speaker 2:Yeah man, so to me it's all fucked up the whole system. But that january 6th thing opened my eyes. Like man, if we really come together as black, white, brown and brown and everything in between, we can take over anything. Man, they proved it.
Speaker 5:You need somebody to bring people together like a real leader.
Speaker 2:That's the one thing I loved about the Black Lives Matter movement. Out here, man, I've seen so many shook cops and shit and I went up to one on one time because I'm like y'all got all this rock gear and shit on and there's thousands of y'all everywhere. You think that don't make people feel like, oh, y'all ready to fight and go to war, like that's what it is, why y'all coming out here looking like that. So, but you know, what they were shook of is because they the black lives matter movement. Man, the thing that was beautiful about it, regardless what people think, is, man, there was so many white people, young white people, asians, hispanics, indians, middle easterns everybody was out that movement together like fuck that, yeah everybody, everybody came together yeah, and they don't like that.
Speaker 2:They look shook and they had thousands of cops everywhere out here with the riot gear on and I'm like man. Y'all look like y'all ready to go to war against us. But I know one thing y'all ain't deeper than us.
Speaker 3:You see the streets and that's the thing, see, that's why they're shook, because, like you, if we come together as a people, we outnumber them. Yeah, the police, they don't have the numbers.
Speaker 2:That's why they had to hurry up and get that case over and convict Shalvin, because they was like man, it's going too far, man, we got to shut it down, yeah.
Speaker 4:You can't really get off the topic of reparation.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Go ahead. I think about like the New Orleans situation, like when all the water flooded the city and you know a lot of those homeowners. They didn't have homeowners insurance or shit, so they get screwed. But you're thinking of a poor type of community where people can't really afford to pay for home insurance. They're never thinking something like this is going to happen.
Speaker 4:Personally my belief. I think the government did that. Something like this is going to happen. Personally my belief. I think the government did it. I mean because the same thing happened back in the 1940s in Vanport, oregon, where it wiped out a whole fucking city in Vanport, where they said it was a break in a dike which allowed so much water from the Columbia River to just sweep through the whole town and everything was gone. Bro, everything's gone. So coincidental, if you don't have that homeowner's insurance, there is no reparations, bro. But how can they afford it when the cost of living is this and you only make this? It doesn't meet. So it's like a system that is designed for poor communities to struggle and if something happens you're fucked. Yep, yeah. So we have to better this. The systematical thing that they got going on, man, like shit's got to be affordable, man, if your income doesn't match the economy, how are you supposed to live?
Speaker 5:Yeah, you can't, it gets worse too, man, you can't match.
Speaker 3:You can't, because we've talked about this. The minimum wage is what barely went up, right since we were kids. But what goes up, everything else goes up, right. I mean, how can you have 10, 12 an hour? You don't expect, you can't dude, you can't survive. Honestly, we all work, we know how money goes. Making $15 isn't even enough an hour with the economy.
Speaker 5:Back in the day if you were making like $25 an hour you were balling Now if you're a single parent making $25 an hour. That's enough to be poor. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at.
Speaker 3:Like, yeah, back, you know you was making, like you're right, but how many people was making $20, $25 an hour Only?
Speaker 4:people that had a degree or something you know what I mean or a two-year technical school.
Speaker 3:I was fortunate enough years ago I was making that much, right, you know, like I was balling, you know I'll say it making over 20 an hour, but now it was I'm not going anywhere with, I'm just comparing it Like then I could survive, I was single, right, I wasn't married, you know, I had no kids. But now when you, you got a family, that money it's gone before you make it.
Speaker 4:I mean right or wrong, but it comes back to that in two words the system well, of course it's designed it's designed to have everybody the rich get richer and the poor get poorer that's just like you just said you were ball the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. That's just like you just said you were balling, Like yeah, you made probably $90,000 that year, but they took $25,000 of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you wasn't really balling, but I'm just saying what I'm getting at now what I'm saying is like I was single.
Speaker 2:No, no.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. Like we're talking about, like all of us have families now.
Speaker 2:What's the most important song in hip-hop history? Fellas Ballin'? Definitely not. What's the most important song in hip-hop history? Fellas.
Speaker 3:The most important song Yep NWA. Express Yourself no, but that's a good one, Damn.
Speaker 2:Was I close, no wrong coast.
Speaker 3:Wrong coast. Damn was I close, no wrong coast wrong.
Speaker 4:Oh, you're talking about uh mo money mo prop or uh p diddy. It's no, definitely not. It's gotta be a song. It's gotta be a song about the people absolutely.
Speaker 2:What's the name of it?
Speaker 4:and I'm trying to think of the name of it, right oh? I think, it's on the tip of my freaking tongue. I already know it, zeb knows, so just go ahead and tell me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just tell us, chris, All right.
Speaker 2:Here's their most famous member.
Speaker 3:Yeah, boy, oh Public enemy.
Speaker 4:I just said it. I said public enemy Did you say public enemy.
Speaker 2:What's your song? Fight the Power. There you go, tony, there you go Come on, and that's what we got to do, Wayne, For real, we got to fight the power. That's the only thing I'm saying about January 6th, Right or wrong. Hey look, they proved it we can fight these motherfuckers.
Speaker 2:If we all come together like the black lives matter movement. As a people, we can take over anything and everybody. And I ended the day. Man, I don't keep saying it. I would love to see jeff bezos, mark zuckerberg, all of them. Man, we gotta take the fuck out of y'all gone bye. We can create, we, we can appoint and create new world leaders that really care about the people. Man, fuck all them evil ass people. Man, I take them out. I'm not speaking for nobody else in this show, man. If I can I ain't gonna lie I'll take y'all dudes out.
Speaker 5:Well, you ever heard somebody say uh, power is given Like people give you power and they can take it back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so now we gotta fight it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we gotta take it back. Yeah, I could.
Speaker 1:yeah, I agree with me rolling the waves of her cracking up.
Speaker 3:I'm like what is so funny?
Speaker 4:I love you, chris. We can go to bat man, but we ain't got what they got, man, I'm telling you bro.
Speaker 3:But he's just saying you got power.
Speaker 4:I get what he's saying though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what Chris is just saying is you have power in numbers.
Speaker 2:That's what he's saying, right, all of us together, man, nobody can stop us, nobody that so-called controls us. They can't stop us. We are the people that control.
Speaker 3:He ain't saying violently, take it. It's like just ban to get protest. So at the end of the day that's a reparation thing.
Speaker 4:Oh no, I'm not saving my face, I'm saying take them out. Oh no, that's what it's about though. Because you're going to have to.
Speaker 2:If you don't take them out, they're going to still be there.
Speaker 4:At the end of this topic and then we can move on, man, but it's about the movement, and Chris is right.
Speaker 2:And those six individuals I'm talking about. They could pay the whole world reparations. Man, fuck out of here. These dudes are so ignorant man, I'm sick of of it. Man. They don't care about nobody, definitely don't care about black people. They don't care about nobody. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Not even their own kind really they don't.
Speaker 2:If you ain't on their level, they don't give a fuck about your white ass. I'm being honest.
Speaker 3:We've said that, yeah, green is their. You know what they love you gotta have the green.
Speaker 4:So at the end of this topic, man, just stop feeding into all their bullshit. If people are listening to us, stop feeding into this shit.
Speaker 2:Man, we got to make a movement don't get your taxes and go out there and buy all the amazon and shit, man, because that's all they're doing is feeding them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're getting, I got paid.
Speaker 2:I can get this new this. You can get a whole lot of shit for a short time frame. But guess what? I got rainy days. Right now my company just shut down. Today was our last day of existence and I've been there for five and a half years. Look, we go out there and buy all this shit and keep giving them money when they already taxes on their check and everything we buy. Man, we got to stop doing that. And one way to fight back and for the people that ain't physically trying to fight back man, you can fight back this kind of way and financially, it's the way that's going to really hurt those people.
Speaker 4:Right, it's true, man, because, like you said, man, they take money from our taxes or our checks throughout the year. Right.
Speaker 2:They only show up on Friday.
Speaker 4:Roughly about. I'm not going to lie to you. In one year, for my, my, my salary, they take about twenty five thousand for me, man. So on a tax return they're going to give you back like twenty five hundred of that.
Speaker 3:And you're looking at it like oh, how is?
Speaker 4:that fair. But, like Chris just said, it's designed for when they give you that little tax return for $2,500. Y'all want to jump back out there like oh, I got money, I'm going to go buy this, I'm going to go buy that. You're just feeding into their system, man. You're giving their money, your money, right back to them right back to them and they're taxing that too Exactly, man so stop feeding it to the system.
Speaker 3:Chris, what you're saying, like peaceful way, like people always talk about, like what inflation is a big thing, and I think, oh, it was a, oh, it was. A local grocery store here in Winchester closed their door for 24 hours in protest, like I think it was more the immigrant, but they shut down like to hurt them for a protest, but seems like that shit that has to happen. Yeah, like dude, I worked at their groceries martin's and I've said it before too it's like if you don't go buy nothing or a company stands up to the go, you know, just shut for one day. You know how much money they lose in one day. Some of them lose millions in a day. So people, american public, like dude, you hurt these big corporations a bit, they're probably don't buy stuff, man, shit will change but when people band together, support the small businesses, man, that's what you got to do, that too, but I'm, I'm just saying.
Speaker 3:That's how you know one way to approach it is don't buy shit. Where does it hurt their pockets, their money and they?
Speaker 4:love it, like, for instance, we all love Nike, but we got to stop fucking buying that shit man no people stop. No, they ain't going to stop. Stop buying it, man. They're not going stop I know back in the day you could buy the jumpsuit together. Now you gotta pay for each piece 90 for the pants, 60 for the hoodie. I'm like what?
Speaker 3:look, cut the shit. I challenge everyone. Look one day I just said they'll lose millions of. You know how much money would nike lose, but how much in a 24-hour span? How much would you think Nike would lose Millions.
Speaker 5:No, get everybody to go one week without spending a dollar.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 5:I'm talking about everything Groceries, gas. Go one week, organize it. Millions of people don't spend a dollar. It would make the stock market crash, it would Grocery stores. People were't spend a dollar.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, it would make the stock market crash? It would. Grocery stores, people were just fed into that. So that might be one thing that might only be standing. But as far as all that other shit go, man, stop buying it, like Tony said, stop buying it, like Zeb said, for a week or two. Man and watch. You see Nike start closing down some of their buildings. Yeah, across the whole United States. They ain't got it just in Winchester, they got the motherfuckers everywhere.
Speaker 4:Start shutting down man, start shutting these Macy's down. Man, start shutting all that shit down. Man, we're not doing nothing but making them richer. Man, go back to making your own clothes. Get yourself a sewing machine there you go.
Speaker 3:I'm going to grow hemp and make clothes out of hemp fuck that.
Speaker 4:I'm going to start going out here and killing animals. I'm going to start eating the whole school. Fuck that man. I'm going to give you like 10 chickens. Nobody's eggs.
Speaker 2:I got eggs for the community there you go get them the right feed man that's how they got people anyway. It used to be a man's job to go out there and hunt and feed the family and nobody could tell you what you could or couldn't do with it. Now, if you want that food to feed your family, you're gonna pay for it, because somebody said you can't have it unless you buy it well they, they made a law in winchester where you can't have animals like chickens.
Speaker 5:They made that. They outlawed that back in the day.
Speaker 2:There's certain farms and whatever else they're going to give it to you from, that's it.
Speaker 3:Well, don't you have to have a permit? I think you can't get a permit.
Speaker 2:You have to have a license to fish. How much bullshit is that? How are you going to tell me you can fish and we can't? You can't collect rainwater and sell it. It came from the sky. And you can't collect it in buckets and barrels and then sell it. But they can, yeah. And then they tap on fancy stickers or nice bottles. Poland Springs.
Speaker 4:Man. You don't know where the fuck Poland Springs is, but you're going to buy $5 worth of it right now. Well, just like you just said, though, chris, that's how it used to be back in the day.
Speaker 2:The man had to used to go out and hunt and feed the family, but now, all of a sudden, they figured out they can make us all pay for it and they can control it all.
Speaker 4:That's bullshit, yeah you gotta, you gotta, have a hunting license.
Speaker 2:You can't even go out and feed your family that's why, when people tell me, when I say stuff like that, they're like oh, this and that you got to have laws, you got to have this and that. I'm like but they created it so that we have to feed into it and buy it. Who said that they was the ones that make this up? And we have to listen. Yes, there should be rules and regulations and laws for certain things, but not when it comes to people can do certain things and survive and the rest of us can't.
Speaker 4:It's about that key word. You just said it's survival man, and they're taking that right from us.
Speaker 2:Because we're not fighting them. That's why January 6th, that's the one thing I do like about it. Man, we can fight the shit out of these dudes.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We won't Look what they're doing in Palestine, which is our next topic.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:All of a sudden. I've been talking about me and Zeb since October 7th of 2023, when they started killing them off again in public. And now there's social media and shit. We can see it Blowing up babies, blowing up women, this and that Blaming a so-called group called Hamas. Oh, they're the ones and that's their whole excuse, but they're fucking genociding this whole nation, this whole people of Palestine. And now Trump is like oh, we're just going to go in there and take over now and we're going to put these people in all these different countries and we're going to create a place where it's good for everybody. What do you?
Speaker 1:mean.
Speaker 2:That's their home. How are you going to go there and say y'all got to all go and we're taking over? But it's 2025, tony, how is that cool? I haven't been cool with it and I told you. I got kicked off the Instagram twice for sharing my that and I wasn't gonna stop. They kept kicking me off and so every picture I should ever posted, just in normal, of us was all gone. But I'm not gonna stop sharing the truths, man. That's why it hurts. It hurts me, man to know that people's cool with it. They're like yeah, man, we deserve that land. What are you fucking talking about?
Speaker 4:you deserve it and you're right, man. You said you got kicked off instagram twice, man, but twice. But the people that run that, they're're not for that shit. That's why you got kicked off.
Speaker 2:Because they don't want me to share. They probably think you're a terrorist, a lot of the stuff I was sharing back in the day they kicked me off. I didn't make any of that, I just shared real footage of people filming their own family members and kids dying, missing legs and arms and everything just getting're getting killed and they're two, three months old, boom, boom, getting taken out, getting shot right in front of them by people that said this is our land now.
Speaker 2:When the whole time in 1947, when the Holocaust and shit was going on, that's the only country that opened up their doors and opened up their arms for these people to come. And then they eventually just said well, we're going to keep taking over and taking over now. And all of a sudden, the only people that really got reparations are the Jewish people.
Speaker 4:But tell them Zeb's right. What did you just say? It's not in the news.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you're sharing stuff that they weren't even sharing on media outlets and the news.
Speaker 2:Because the two families that own the news are the ones that's responsible for making sure all this is either told or not told. They're not telling nobody the truth, but that history dog. We didn't realize it, but when we was young we always heard people say his story. But that's the truth. They rewrite history the way they want it. So this country's history is not told and near none of the truths we never was learned or taught hardly any of that in our textbooks. And I can't blame mr gordon and mr gowdy and all them, because they only told us what they was paid and taught to teach us, and that's probably all they knew. But we're younger now and have way more access to shit.
Speaker 2:Man, we was lied to about everything yeah how are they gonna take over that land and kick everybody out and say, it's okay, but yeah, we hold on. So that's okay for usa and it is not real israel to do that, but yet this country wants to kick all the people that's not legally here out. Well, you're over there illegal trying to kill these people and move them out so you can take over their land. So why can't people that's not even trying to take over our land just come here to work? How's that? How's that work?
Speaker 4:yeah, I mean my thought on it is just it. It's been a plan and it works. It didn't just pop up. I think they've been plotting this for years, man.
Speaker 2:Well, we first started, when that's why Israel does exist. We first started. That's the one piece of land we got, and little did the people from America and Europe realize they fucked up. That's the one piece of land in the Middle East that ain't got no oil.
Speaker 4:True.
Speaker 2:So, now they trying to take out Iraq and all these fucking places, saudi Arabia and shit and Kuwait, because that's where all the war has been right. And who gets blamed all the time on why we got to go to war? People from those countries when they haven't never done nothing to us? Because the US and Europe and those old-ass school white people want to take over and make everything white and they want to run and have everything they want it all it's about territory.
Speaker 3:They want everything. Yeah, I mean, you're naive to not think like all the wars are still going on. It's over oil. Our military and our government that's how they operate, like grises say, it's territory having control of everything. So, like you said, then they want to pin it on the country that all they started. You know, make up some fucking story where you know they started it somehow, but no, it's us. Yeah, we're in everybody's business. We got to control everything, we got to control what, we got to control the oil and all that. So, yeah, you're very freaking naive if you're. Our military over in the Middle East has been there for decades, not just decades claiming there's a war, but it's just oil.
Speaker 2:And me and Zeb talked about this a lot before man. Zeb, tell them, man, what's your whole thoughts on this bullshit that's going on and it's been going on.
Speaker 5:It's a genocide.
Speaker 2:It's a genocide.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they're doing like they went through their genocide in World War II Israel and now they're projecting that it's like revenge. Now they're doing that to other people. That it's like revenge. Now they're doing that to other people. Right, it's another Holocaust.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, and it's not being shown on the news at all.
Speaker 5:Nobody's done anything. When did this start? 2023?, 2022?
Speaker 2:The new one. They've been doing this for years. Yeah, I was going to say this has the new one. They've been killing and doing this for years.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was going to say this has been going on All in Palestine, which is Gaza and Rafah and all those places.
Speaker 2:They've been blowing them up and killing them left and right.
Speaker 2:It's been going on and then they use these regions of the Middle East and blame anything on them. When it's really America, europe, israel doing it, it's those white people and they're blaming it on them. When it's really America, europe, israel doing it, it's those white people and they're blaming it on them so they can rile all of us up. So when they do show that kind of stuff on the news that they want us to see oh, 9-11 was by Bin Laden, well, there's proof to show that to him, and they never did anything like that. And Al-Qaeda was made up by the CIA.
Speaker 2:But they brainwashed the American people and the masses to be like oh yeah fuck these people, fuck all the people with turbans and the fucking. They're wrong. They're terrorists, man. The terrorists got shirts and ties on, motherfucker, and they're the ones that work in the top of the buildings out here in the USA well, that whole thing, that conflict with Israel and Palestine like if Palestine attacks Israel, it's on the news, they're terrorists.
Speaker 5:if it's the other way, and Israel and Palestine, like if Palestine attacks Israel, it's on the news they're terrorists. If it's the other way and Israel attacks Palestine, you hear crickets chirping. Nobody even talks about it.
Speaker 2:Palestine doesn't even have weapons.
Speaker 4:Shout out to Cat Williams man, because he's been telling us. You know what I'm saying. He's like our government is bullies man. We over there just killing them. They don't ever report. Today we killed 12 children, two women. They don't ever use those terms, man.
Speaker 2:And they don't ever talk about how they just came and killed 12 people, including four children, in Alabama or New York or Pennsylvania Because they don't come over here and do it. Yeah, man, but we go over there all the time, man, all the time, and just kill innocent people and don't be like, oh, just women and children, man. The men is fucking innocent. They've never won. I've never once seen men over here from any of those countries, including China and Russia that's over here just trying to fight me Wayne, tony and Zeb in the streets. I ain't never seen it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, government. They're so self selfish towards other countries, man, which makes it a bad life for us, as us citizens, man but that's how this whole country became about yeah, with this oil thing, man, like oil was great in the 90s, man I was getting I don't know 90 90 cent a gallon one year it was like 79 cent a gallon, like what happened to those prices I remember getting gas at sheets on pleasant valley yeah, pleasant valley, right there by shenandoah, 99 cents and I'm like, yeah lit, not even a dollar.
Speaker 4:They're getting your penny back something happened over this oil that they're not telling us about man, because everything was great and they keep lying and saying oh, this and that we're not gonna run, run out of this and that.
Speaker 3:We're not going to run out of oil. I was going to just say that, Chris. They always claim oh, we're going to. No, the earth produces oil.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're not running out of oil.
Speaker 3:Honestly, we're never going to run out of oil. Nope, it's constantly. If we would have ran out of oil, we'd have been out a long time ago exactly the earth produces oil. It comes. Yeah, running out is bullshit, we don't. And the thing is we got our own uh, what oil ports, what we call you off the gulf of america. Now they call it gulf of mexico, but we have it right here. But we want to go to another country and get oil when we have it right here in our own.
Speaker 2:To go to another country and get oil when we have it right here in our own, you're all far shore and there are people that grew up in this, in this so-called country, this corporation we live in, that have created ways for you to drive and and have a means of transportation without so-called oil, and every time those people get killed and their shit and ideals get taken and the only thing that exists now that's where it's not. You don't need no gasoline. What is those electric cars? Who runs that shit? Tesla? Who the fuck owns Tesla? Elon robot ass Musk. Who the fuck is the real Tesla? Nikola Tesla created electricity, not Con Edison, not, no, thomas Edison. Tesla. He created electricity to be free for all people. They killed him, stole his ideals and now this dude, elon Musk, who creates robots to take over even more of the world, calls his fucking car Tesla. When they killed that man, who?
Speaker 4:created free electricity.
Speaker 3:Well, wasn't there somebody else who ran a car off of water, of water? I sent that to y'all about a month ago, wasn't there?
Speaker 4:there was somebody else who, like, ran a car off of water. Yep Of water. I sent that to y'all about a month ago and that guy disappeared right.
Speaker 3:Who invented that? Like he made a car an automobile that ran off of freaking water.
Speaker 4:And I'm telling you, it was an African-American that did it. Yeah, he built his own little car, had it running off water and all of a sudden, nobody knows where this guy's at. They say hold on, man, you're fucking with us, man.
Speaker 3:Well, it's a lot of things. You know where he's at. You know a lot of things have been invented, Shit, something we don't even know about, but it can be ran off water.
Speaker 4:He's a hostage now.
Speaker 3:That's where he's at. Another big one is hemp. I don't think we've ever gotten to why marijuana was made illegal, but the whole reasoning was it's because of the uses of hemp. The oil companies were behind that, making that illegal because they knew they would have lost all their money because Chris has got him. Yeah, you know all the, you know the resources and what you can do with him. Yeah, rope, clothes, oil, all that off that, off a natural resource, and the oil companies shut that down. So that was it on that. But you know what? It's just crazy how everything's just so so messed up and controlled by the powers that be.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, like you, you try to make something illegal that just grow. Yeah, you know I'm saying it's just a plant, it just grow like that. Yep, you happen to set it on fire, though. There are some side effects. Oh well, we know that but like but it ain't ever killed.
Speaker 3:Nobody right never never.
Speaker 4:They just try to find ways when they do legalize it how can we get a dollar?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, they know that's why they legalize it, motherfucker, because everybody smoked.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they said this is going to be To cheer. It's like what is that? Shark tank?
Speaker 3:No, shark tank.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they said oh, we didn't hit them, it's a home run, south of Park.
Speaker 3:Legalize this shit, bro. We're about to get paid.
Speaker 4:Yeah, once they find out a way they can make money. They're going to be like you can get high but you can't ride around with it in your car. That means certain shit, man.
Speaker 5:You know what they'll do. You know how the liquor stores are. They're owned by the state government.
Speaker 3:They'll do the same thing with weed. Well, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's already done out here All the illegal shops up here, the so-called illegal shops. They raid them and shut them down.
Speaker 5:Do they really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but there's so many. That's real, that's out here. They're just legal fucking dispensaries and shit everywhere.
Speaker 4:Is y'all's ABC ran by the state Chris?
Speaker 2:in New York. It's ran by Asians.
Speaker 2:Oh york it's ran by asians. Oh yeah, because I'm here, man, it's ran by the state. Bro, like, like, our shit's open right now. I can go get a bottle if I want everything's open, like I even asked him, I remember on thanksgiving I was like, oh, I gotta get my stuff now because y'all be closed tomorrow. He was like no, sir, we're gonna get more money tomorrow, we open because I'm used to. You know as being young in virginia man, you got to get there by nine on sundays, by six, like it was crazy.
Speaker 3:You're in the bible bill.
Speaker 4:That's the whole thing sundays they, they, they want people to buy the alcohol. But on sundays they were like nah, you got to go to church, did you see it?
Speaker 2:you were sending all week, and then we'll open a liquor store up at 12 when y'all get out but before you get to the liquor store on sunday, if you're at church you're good because you can drink the wine they give you true, it's very true they slick with it. But they give you some wine and some bread the bread that's so to sober you up a little bit so you don't get too litty before you get out of there yeah, because that shit will get you litty.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 5:All right, guys, we're moving on.
Speaker 3:Let's talk about the Super Bowl Chiefs and Eagles. Yeah, baby Update. Y'all know what time it is today, yeah, big Super Bowl, and who's going to?
Speaker 4:win, For entertainment purposes only. This is how they get you Y'all going to the grocery store, you putting the money in your pockets. Here we go.
Speaker 3:The Super Bowl is like another holiday.
Speaker 4:It's an.
Speaker 2:American holiday, a North American holiday or whatever.
Speaker 3:It's a corporate holiday to me. They have to get on early.
Speaker 5:That way they can get you to work the next day.
Speaker 4:Everybody gets paid Pepsi Gatorade, the eggs, the farms.
Speaker 2:The biggest commercial tonight Is going to be by State Farm. Who was the insurance people that pulled out from California Three months ago? And their biggest sponsor or celebrity is Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 4:They out here sponsoring Super Bowls. They can't sponsor people that lost their homes Right. Come on, man, stop playing with me. This ain't no game.
Speaker 2:Kansas City going to win, but I think Chris Jones is going to be MVP Chris Jones, I think they're going to have a well obviously. I like it, it's probably going to be Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 3:You think it'd be, when was?
Speaker 2:the last time there was a defensive MVP in the Super.
Speaker 3:Bowl the Seahawks. The Seahawks had one with Russell Wilson. It was Wagner. Was it Wagner? It wasn't.
Speaker 2:Wagner, though it was the one of their defensive players who was less known or talked about out of. Chancellor and Earl Thomas and all them. I forget his name. Yeah, he was beast. I think it was Earl. No, it wasn't Earl Campbell. It wasn't Cam Chancellor, it wasn't Bobby Wagner, but it was the dude that was on their line.
Speaker 4:He was beast. Have to look that up. But yeah, who y'all like today?
Speaker 1:baby.
Speaker 4:Who you like. Has your mind changed since last week?
Speaker 3:No, I like the Chiefs. I don't think I've said they win the close game. It'll be a close game. I feel it'll be close, but Chiefs will pull it out. Mahomes is too much. Jalen Hurts can't win a game because I think the Chiefs' defense, I don't think they'll slow down Barkley, but they ain't going to completely shut him down and they're going to make Jalen Hurts win the game or try, and I don't see Jalen Hurts stepping up and doing that, because Mahomes is just Mahomes and does Mahomes things Well.
Speaker 4:So I say I was going to pull a fun fact up from you know a few shows back when we all predicted who was gonna make the super bowl. He's not listening to tony or chris zeb. I want to know who's gonna win today, because you predicted that philly and the chiefs will be in the super bowl okay, okay I gotta give you air time on this one. Who do you okay? Oh, so he was the only one who produced the only one that picked Philly and the Chiefs. So who do you like today?
Speaker 5:Zeb. I think Philly's going to pull it off because of their blitz packages, their pass rush they get after quarterbacks. Philly's got a real good defense man and people don't really talk about that because they're busy talking about Barkley.
Speaker 3:I like it, I can agree, I mean yeah.
Speaker 5:They got a defense. I'm going with you today, zed, I'm taking the Eagles money line man yeah, they'll pass rush, they'll frustrate I think they'll try to frustrate Mahomes and get him out of his game and then they can control the clock with Barkley, with the run game. Defense and running. That's how you win Super Bowls.
Speaker 4:I can't disagree with that. With the run game, defense and running, that's how you win Super Bowls.
Speaker 5:I can't disagree with that, can't disagree at all.
Speaker 2:Turnovers Turnovers will be big too. I like Jaden Daniels. All right, who are they?
Speaker 4:We know that had the football. Who do?
Speaker 2:you like, though I like Pat Mahomes, because that's what they do.
Speaker 3:They win and we're rooting for Nazi Johnson. We can't forget about him Exactly.
Speaker 2:No lie, I'm definitely rooting for that young man. We got a kid from Winchester. I don't know him, but from Winchester he only been in the league three years and about to win his third ring. So if anybody should be sponsored by that fake-ass Palestine dude fucking DJ Khaled, it should be sponsored by that fake ass Palestine dude fucking DJ Khaled. It should be Najee cause. All I do is win, win, win no matter what so.
Speaker 3:Zeb's got the Eagles. I got the Chiefs. Chris has got the Chiefs. Wayne, who do you got?
Speaker 4:I told you I'm riding with my boy, man. I think Zeb's got it. Man, you got it. We're split here. I'm 100 with Zeb. With Barcl man, you got it. Oh, we're splitting here, man, I'm 100 with Zeb. With Barkley's going to have a beast game. I'd like him to go over 100 yards, two tighties today, and I think the Eagles are going to make just enough plays with that defensive side, their schemes and their blitzes, and it's going to cost Mahomes possibly a turnover or two man. So I think the turnover is going to be the key to this game and I think Philly's going to win in that department. So I like the Eagles today over the Chiefs.
Speaker 5:It seems like the whole playoffs were just decided by turnovers it was all about turnovers.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's sports. If he wins the turnover battle, and time of possession also.
Speaker 4:You're not going to win if you turn the ball over nine times out of ten Because most likely you don't have the ball. It's time of possession. That's good stuff.
Speaker 3:So top three Super Bowls, guys, real quick, that you've ever seen in your lifetime. I'm curious on this. You want me to start off. I have my three go ahead, uh, San Francisco and the Bengals second match, one they played back to back against each other yeah, but the second Super Bowl when Montana took them down, down and won on the last drive when he drove that one when I was a kid saw that game and that was an amazing game that was the game.
Speaker 2:That was the 89 season 90 Super Bowl what's that?
Speaker 5:Zeb. That was the game where Ronnie Lott he ended Icky Woods.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, he smacked, yeah, oh yeah, he smacked Icky. Yeah, set the tone. He was like I set the tone from the very. Yeah, smacked him at the line of scrimmage, yeah, yeah. So that Super Bowl was definitely like off the top of my head. And then the Rams and Titans Super Bowl when they got stopped at the one-inch line at the end of the year. Stop that. The one-inch line at the end of the year came down to the wire. 2000 Super Bowl. Yep, chris knows the years. So that's two.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, he's on it. And then I have to go with the Patriots' comeback against the Falcons when they was that what was it 24-7?
Speaker 4:They had Julio Jones. Huh, they had Julio Jones in that Super Bowl. Yeah, that's that Super.
Speaker 2:Bowl. Yeah, that's the 27th Super Bowl.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the biggest comeback and winning the first overtime Super Bowl. So those are my top three. Right there, it's good stuff. I could have picked my Cowboys, but when we were in the Super Bowl we just destroyed everybody, so they were just blowouts, all right. But yeah, those are my top three. What y'all got. Who wants to go? First Somebody Zeb what you got. Zeb's trying to find them now. See, I had three right off the top of my head. You just got to go.
Speaker 2:Instilled in your brain. 90 season 91 Super Bowl. One of the best ones out of the top three for me would be the first Buffalo Super Bowl, when they did lose to Lawrence Taylor and the Giants and Scott Nord and missed that field goal. That was like 20 to 19.
Speaker 2:And that was also one of my first memories of watching the whole game and paying attention. That's in my top five, that one I loved. I would definitely have to say I loved the 95 Super Bowl when I got to see Deion and Jerry Rice. But Deion played for the 49ers and they smashed the San Diego Chargers and they tried means on them. But I loved that one because Deion was doing it on offense and defense and now look at his kids and look at Travis Hunter and the guys he's coaching. Man, there ain't nobody better than that. And then the other Super Bowl that I would say I love, man, it might honestly be with Ray Lewis and Ed and ed reed's first super bowl, because that that was when I seen, because I didn't see the 85 bears defense. I was four that defense with ray lewis and ed reed, man just leading the way. They really won that super bowl and that was crazy. They smashed. I think they beat. It wasn't the job, was it the giants who the?
Speaker 3:uh right, yeah, I think it was the giants, the giants. Was it the Giants?
Speaker 2:Who? Yeah, I think they it was the Giants.
Speaker 3:It was the Giants.
Speaker 4:Because the Giants had won the Super Bowl the year before.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh, yeah, you're right. No, the Giants didn't win the.
Speaker 4:Super Bowl.
Speaker 3:You got yours, Wayne, yeah.
Speaker 4:I got three, but you know it's probably not the best of all time I might have to throw that one out. Denver versus Green Bay John Elway's first one. Yeah, that was a good one. Terrell Davis rushed for like 157 yards. He was a fucking, he was a monster.
Speaker 2:His first win. He had already lost three Super Bowls, but hey, he made them Exactly so he's kind of like LeBron.
Speaker 4:That was a good game, and another one was when the Patriots played the Seahawks. We all know about that. Oh yeah, pete Carroll don't want to give Marshawn the ball at the goal line. You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying they could have knocked the Patriots off in that one. Who'd you say Pete Carroll or Todd Hill? Todd didn't give the ball to my man, Patrick Burks either, but man, that reminded me of that shit. Man, how you don't give beast mode the fucking ball.
Speaker 4:And then my last one. It was memorable, it was the David Tyree catch with the Giants. Yeah, there's been a lot of good ones. It's hard to pick three. Yeah, man, there's a lot of good ones, like you say that Bills-Giants one too.
Speaker 3:That's right there. That was a good one. Been a lot of good Super Bowls 20 to 19 with Scott Norwood wide right.
Speaker 4:You know, I left my Washington Redskins on. We could have said the 91. You know what I'm saying. But there's been so many great Super Bowls that we've witnessed and there's been so many great Super Bowls that we didn't.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying yeah, or like what we've seen, Zeb what you got.
Speaker 5:Oh, I got the Super Bowl where they didn't give the ball to Marshawn Lynch. I got that.
Speaker 3:But you and Wayne got the same one.
Speaker 5:And I've got the Giants-New England game the catch. But then I got and wasn't that hold on?
Speaker 3:Wasn't that the year that was New England undefeated that year? Was that the year when he made that catch?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because that's the 07 season, 07 Super Bowl.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, so that one was lit because Kelly Washington was on that team Shout out to Kelly, another Winchester native baby, he was on that team.
Speaker 2:I know he claimed Stephen City, but there ain't no hospital in Stephen City. Shout out to Winchester's Kelly, because I know that.
Speaker 3:Super Bowl. It was just shocking because the Giants knocked off. Yeah, if everybody remembered, new England was undefeated going into the Super Bowl. Yeah, all right, go ahead Zeb.
Speaker 5:Yeah, the last one. It would be Arizona and Pittsburgh. I just remember Santana Holmes.
Speaker 3:Like that was one of the best.
Speaker 5:That's the best game I've ever seen a receiver play man.
Speaker 4:I kept telling y'all before the show. I kept saying Stallworth, but it was Santonio Holmes.
Speaker 5:It was Holmes, he was on fire.
Speaker 4:Wayne, you're the only one holding up to see Stallworth play in real life.
Speaker 3:I was talking about Dante Stallworth, I wasn't talking about the great John's stalwart, and I think people seem to forget about this Super Bowl too, but it was a great game, was New England and Carolina.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes.
Speaker 3:That was a good game.
Speaker 4:They had that defense that year though they had music Luke Keekly and David Thomas it came down to the yeah, Julius Peppers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Julius Peppers.
Speaker 3:We had to kick the game-winning field goal. Carolina almost won that game.
Speaker 4:That was a very good. That's why Cammy and his fellas sometimes say Eli Greenjacket, I'm going to go off.
Speaker 3:He gets a gold jacket. I deserve two. I said green jacket.
Speaker 4:What's that Gold? He said green.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's for the Masters. Yeah, the Masters. I said green jacket.
Speaker 4:Get out of here, Rush Ray just gave away.
Speaker 3:He's a huge Masters fan.
Speaker 2:Which Twin. We won't get into all that. That's a later show, but look, it's called the Masters.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I'm one of the Masters.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so great, so great stuff, guys, Great episode and hey, everybody enjoy the Super Bowl this evening.
Speaker 2:What's on y'all's menu today for the Super Bowl? What y'all cooking up?
Speaker 3:What's on y'all's menu today for the Super Bowl? What y'all cooking up Ribs? I have a buddy bringing over ribs today for us and Zeb should be over here, A couple friends coming over and Wayne's going to his uncle's. I guess that's what he does.
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