Brothers with Opinions -B.W.O.
Four friends discussing Winchester, VA news and topics. Debating political issues, news, social injustice and anything that is up for debate in our world.
Brothers with Opinions -B.W.O.
From High School Football Drama to America's Power Dynamics: Unraveling Scandals and Societal Struggles
High school football fans, brace yourselves for a thrilling exploration of the season's most electrifying moments and controversies. From the intense matchups in Virginia and West Virginia playoffs to the dramatic impact of player ineligibility, we uncover the stories behind the scores. Sherando's victory over Handley, marked by Triston Darling's unfortunate injury, sets the stage for a detailed analysis of the strategic choices and atmospheric tension that define high school sports. We also unravel the recruitment scandal involving Hayfield High School, delving into the controversy of illegal transfers and the repercussions for student-athletes and local communities.
Switching gears, we tackle the convoluted and often disheartening political landscape, posing the provocative question: Are election outcomes truly significant in a system riddled with disillusionment and perceived corruption? We dissect the January 6th events, scrutinize the justice system's accountability, and question the true wielders of power in America. From the influence of controversial figures like Donald Trump and Elon Musk to the enduring societal challenges faced by minority candidates, we cast a critical eye on the power dynamics that shape our world. The discussion extends to the societal control exerted by the 1%, drawing historical parallels to illustrate the ongoing struggle for equality and justice.
As the episode unfolds, we extend a heartfelt invitation for open dialogue and activism. Reflecting on the social justice issues that continue to plague our society, we emphasize the importance of speaking out and standing up against inequality. Whether exploring the implications of high-profile NFL trades or inviting listeners to share their perspectives on sensitive topics, we champion the cause of truth and understanding. Join us as we advocate for meaningful conversations and collective action toward a more equitable future.
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Speaker 2:Man. A lot of people talk, but they ain't never walked apart. Gotta shine a light on poverty and fight against injustice and always speak the truth when the enemies are. Ladies and gentlemen, the hype man in the building. Gotta shout out my man, tony Dengis, for keeping man in the building. Got to shout out my man, tony Dinges, for keeping us in the building.
Speaker 2:Six episodes he just posted last night. You know, because we didn't want to give you an episode a week here and there and you guys are like, oh, what's going on. We wanted you all to just get a whole lot of information and decide for yourself if you want to hear what we got to talk about or not, because today we got a whole lot of stuff to talk about from VHSL and West Virginia and Miami, all these schools getting in trouble high school-wise for ineligible players. We're going to talk about some free agency. We're going to talk about Mars. We're going to talk about Trump and the lady that ran against him and we're going to talk about all that. So we're going to get right into it. One man's twin Got some picks coming on later too.
Speaker 3:You guys have if you haven't followed him then you probably haven't been winning too much money, so let's get right into it. All right, chris? Cool, yep, we're back. Wayne, how you feeling this morning?
Speaker 3:feeling great, feeling great got our dunking coffee and we're ready to go, so we're going to jump right into our local high school scores. This is the last week of the season going into the playoffs, so first off we'll start with the big game 2-8-1 teams. At the time, sharando defeated Haley 28-14. And prayers for Tristan Darling, the quarterback, because he got injured the very first play of the game. So their starting QB is out now.
Speaker 2:He's probably the first team. Would you say he'd be first team or the Sharando QB would be first team this year in the district?
Speaker 3:It's close. To be honest, it's close.
Speaker 2:That's a huge loss. Man Tristan was a difference maker, Like he changed the whole dynamic of that offense, and not to have him I knew that it must have took the life out of the team right away, Like shit.
Speaker 4:Well, with that being said, I mean you took Tristan away from handling. They lost, so obviously he seems to be the better player.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it should. We'll discuss that after I get through these scores We'll get into more detail. So james wood defeated millbrook 43 to 27.
Speaker 3:Clark county over madison county 49 to 35 clark county finished undefeated yeah, I believe so shout out to the eagles berryville in the building and then, uh, skyline over warren county 41 to 12 and they skyline like on a-7 game winning streak since they started out like 0-2. And then Strasburg defeated Central 20-19. That's always a good one. So now that's for Virginia scores. Let's go a good one. So now that's for Virginia scores. Let's go into West Virginia. Bartonsburg over Hurricane 44-17. Musselman defeated Parkersburg 29-6. Spring Mills destroyed Hedgesville 33-0. And Jefferson over Washington 40-13. So there you go.
Speaker 3:So back to, yeah, the Hanley game. It changed when Tristan went down. That was nothing against Prosser, but he's just not the athlete Tristan is. You know, jack, he could throw it. I mean, they went down Right when he went in. He threw a pass, touchdown pass, 7-7. Then we had two crucial turnovers. We threw an interception in our own territory and fumbled. And then the next thing, you know, shireen is up 21-7, like the off-two turn, and then they just score a meaningless touchdown at the end of the game. So the defense to me did their job.
Speaker 4:You know. So who fumbled the rock?
Speaker 3:Prosser.
Speaker 4:So the quarterback was accounted for two turnovers and two touchdowns.
Speaker 3:So that's what I'm saying. I mean the defense played, we just could not generate really any offense. After Tristan went in, they changed the whole way they were doing something.
Speaker 2:You said they started putting 8-9 in the box, right, oh yeah, they tried to stop Hassan. He had 93 yards, but still that's low for him, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, knowing what I know like backup, quarterback and processor, I would have just went heavy on the run. Yeah, that's what they did, because all year long y'all been telling me that Hanley has a good offensive line. So somehow we got to get the ball out of Prosser's hands, man, and that's more. So you got to hand it off.
Speaker 2:But it's his first game all year like that. Yeah, exactly, and look at the environment he's playing in.
Speaker 3:Oh, but it's his first game all year like that yeah, exactly, and look at the environment he's playing in.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it was packed At home against Sarandon, with over 3,000, 4,000 people in the stands. I heard there was a lot of people out there.
Speaker 3:It was a standing room everybody like at the Hanley Bowl Like the stands on both sides the first game. I said, dude, the steps to sit there, it was wild. So yeah, to be thrown into a situation like that.
Speaker 4:Like Chris, you're right, I mean we're all right, because, thrown into a situation like that, you've got to help him out. So I'm going to go heavy on the vet which is in the backfield.
Speaker 3:They did.
Speaker 4:And from time to time you run a couple play actions. That's how you get him comfortable. So I mean it could have been a coaching error right there.
Speaker 3:They definitely tried to rely on and not saying Jack, but he was making some kind of.
Speaker 4:But you definitely have to adjust your game plan because Jack's not Tristan, obviously. And you said Toronto scored 28?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 14 of them off those two turnovers.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but still I mean we're giving up too many points. We got to at least hold them to a field goal on one of those two turnovers, something.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. That could be a different ballgame. You can't put your defense in a bad spot either.
Speaker 4:You don't, but players have to perform that I know I get it. And we know the key to success and winning it's minimize the turnovers and time of possession.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 4:So those are your two main factors when it comes to playing sports. Man, basketball or football man, you gotta I mean, you can't turn the ball over.
Speaker 3:That's what killed them in the end.
Speaker 2:That's why them commanders is balling right now. They're doing both.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think they have what three turnovers all year, the commanders?
Speaker 3:Well, we ain't talking commanders yet.
Speaker 4:No, just the general.
Speaker 2:They have a possession and minimal turnovers, and they're doing pretty well right now.
Speaker 4:Exactly, we're just trying to prove a point If you take care of the ball, you will win. You will win.
Speaker 3:You don't even have to be the best team. So, oh, of course, but that's just basic football. We all know that. But we'll get into playoff matchups because I found some of them. You know it's all not complete, but Haley will be at Salem next Friday, so that's a rematch from last year. Yeah, good luck.
Speaker 4:They got two losses on the year and theyatch from last year. Yeah, good luck. They got two losses on the year and they got a road game. Yeah, that's insane. Keep going, I don't mean to cut you off, that's just weird to me.
Speaker 3:And then Sharando plays James Wood, which that's just in your own backyard.
Speaker 4:Where's that game? That game's in Stephen City.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's home.
Speaker 2:But I was reading that even if Hanley would have won yesterday, they would have had to still go on the road.
Speaker 4:Are you serious?
Speaker 2:It would have been not fun.
Speaker 4:How is this so wrong?
Speaker 2:I read that it was already set up that it was going to be James Wood. I mean Sharando and either Hanley or James Wood, but it would be at Sharando and then Salem would host the other one.
Speaker 3:I think it would be flip-flop. I think it would be Sharando at Salem if they would have lost. You see what I'm saying, and Hanley would be playing James Wood.
Speaker 2:Man, do you guys realize what the seating is Like? We didn't ever play schools that far away and be in our region and stuff Salem's mad far.
Speaker 4:It's down there past Roanoke. If you played a team like that, you'd have made it to the semifinals. You don't see a team like that in the first round.
Speaker 2:You're right, not from our area and our district and region. That ain't that far. They changed everything up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, man. Teams that were far away was always late in the playoffs. I remember back in the day when we played Matoka. That was like what semifinals.
Speaker 2:That was the state semis. Yeah, in 93, they beat us Not me and you, but they beat the Varsity with the Pardos and Tiny and them. James Farrier was on that team. They beat him in the Hainley Bowl and it was a close game but it was raining and stuff. James Farrier was on that team. Obviously you know who he is. Went on to play pro for the Mets.
Speaker 4:Yeah, shout out to UVA.
Speaker 2:The next year Hainley played Gate City in the state championship and they hosed the field down with the fire department before the game. And Hanley still won in the mud bowl.
Speaker 4:And it had already rained all week anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they was doing the most, but they was like Hanley lost last year in the heavy pouring rain or wet field conditions. So they was like, let's try to see if we can. Anyway, they cheated and still lost and they was at home.
Speaker 4:I think they went on probation for that after that year.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they got banned, I think. Shoot for a while.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I think it was like I want to say.
Speaker 4:I may be wrong, but I want to say it was like five years, yeah, and they had good years after that, but they weren't eligible to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 2:So imagine getting beat by the team that comes to town when y'all already cheated and then y'all get in trouble for like five years. When y'all already cheated and then y'all get in trouble for like five years. That's crazy.
Speaker 4:It's like shooting yourself with your own gun.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Trey, kern and Truck and all of them. Man, they put it on them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, big ups.
Speaker 3:Tiny. All right, guys. A couple more matchups. I got Strasburg plays Fort Defiance the first round and Skyline has Brentsville. Well, I'm definitely picking Skyline and I haven't found any more yet. I'm picking Sherando over Wood and Skyline over Brentsville. Yeah, oh yeah, I think Skyline, Skyline, my prediction. I think Skyline wins. They got Zayden in it, that offense, they're too much, and Shrando will destroy James Wood. They probably won't even be close. They played already. Yeah, and nothing against it, because you know I feel they've they're making a turn. They got some good coaches there. But yeah, that'll probably be a blowout and unfortunately, I feel our judges are going to go down to Salem and not win again. We'll see.
Speaker 2:It's tough, man without Tristan, that's tough.
Speaker 3:And Strasburg beats Fort defiance, since I got that one too that's west virginia in the playoffs uh, yeah, oh, I'm sorry, um did I say my west virginia score. Yeah, I said all those right, yeah, but I'm going off for the playoffs.
Speaker 2:Now I got oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:I got uh a couple more matchups. Uh, Central is playing Buckingham County and Clark County is playing Madison County, who they just beat this Friday. So they're playing them again In the playoffs. Yeah, they're playing them again. It happens, I think one year somebody they played the end of the season I think it was Haley Sharando. Maybe they played the very next week again in the playoffs. And then the two I got two from West Virginia Martinsburg it's playing Hedgesville, They'll mollywop them and the Spring Mills plays Huntington. That could be a pretty good one, but I'd still take Spring Mills. I think they'll win.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's going to be the state championship with Martinsburg and Spring Mills. If they're allowed to make it that far, they might have to play in the regional finals and they can't make it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't think they can actually meet. I mean, we'll find out once it all officially comes out, but I think probably the way it'll be said. They might not be able to meet in the state final, but I think probably the way it'll be said they might not be able to meet in the state.
Speaker 4:final Spring Mills is still getting in.
Speaker 3:They forfeited four games.
Speaker 2:They're in Because they beat everybody, Regardless of them forfeits. They snagged people. Yeah, but when you take those four wins away, they have a losing record but none of those teams scored against them, so they actually tied all those games Wow.
Speaker 3:Everybody in West Virginia makes the freaking playoffs. It's like this leave no child behind stuff.
Speaker 4:What kind of format we got going on out here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm with you, I'm definitely with you.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 3:So there you have it. I need a charger, wayne, I need my phone charger, but anyway. So, chris, what do we want to hit on what topic? First, let's do the election. Let's touch on that. Who has an? Erection I was going to say something, but I held my tongue.
Speaker 2:No, diddy bop, bring the baby oil back out. Fellas, let's slide right into this next topic.
Speaker 3:We might be a little PG-13 or R-rated but I'm not going X triple.
Speaker 1:X like on Brothers With.
Speaker 3:Opinions. I had to hold my tongue, got kids listening, I'll be done.
Speaker 2:Nah, we're just going to keep it simple, fellas, because y'all know, man, we don't really care who won the election. They don't care about us. You might not care? Whoa, whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 3:You might not care, I do.
Speaker 2:But they don't really care about us either.
Speaker 4:one of them you might not care, I do, but they don't really care about it. We'll let the people hear what you got to say then, tony, because I'm a brother with an opinion and I really don't care about the election either, but we can talk about it.
Speaker 3:No, like to me. It just blows my mind how a man with what he had 34 felony convictions against and some are like still pending, like he hasn't went to trial for him yet, like this man's in office first and foremost and he still could possibly end up going to jail. You know, I mean because not a lot of this shit has went to court, because what he got for falsifying business records I know that was you know, 34 felonies. And then we can't forget about january 6th. But does everybody seem to forget about january 6th? Did you forget?
Speaker 2:they're gonna storm. They're gonna storm it again.
Speaker 3:If they want, it's fine like and then they want to charge for that. But they're saying, oh well, something I read in an article was like well, he's not basically responsible for the American public. It's like dude, but he insinuated that shit. Am I right or wrong? He's out there saying all this wild shit and then that's why they did it. So they're just like oh, we're just going to drop that, we can't charge him for that. But you know what it is? It's all that money he's got. He ain't going to get nothing out of it. You know, no time, no charges against him for anything.
Speaker 4:Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I got a different outlook on it. You love him is what I heard.
Speaker 4:I don't love him. I'm just here to tell you that election really don't matter, man. Whoever's in there is just the chosen one. You know what I mean? They already know who the puppet's going to be, because he's not the one that's really in control. Man, we can go on and on about this for days. Man the popes run our country. Man the British, like with deals that were done way back in the day. Man Shit stolen. There's nobody here in America that really runs this country. Man, people, outsiders, run this country, bro. I mean, that's just my input on it. I mean, what do you think, chris?
Speaker 2:It's being proven. Israel runs this country and none of the people from that place are really from Israel. I mean, there's people born there, but the people that run it are from like all over these, like Germany and France and England and most of the United States too, but they make all the decisions over here.
Speaker 2:And that's why the USA gives all the money and support and all the weapons to them to continue genocides and stuff in the Middle East, because it's all about doing what they really got set out to do and, if we're going to be honest about it, it's about erasing everybody who's not white Right, because they're scared at how life is becoming, everybody's becoming mixed and, you know, loves one another and they don't like that. They're like well, we're starting to disappear and I think they feel threatened. And obviously not everybody, not our, not our friends, obviously, you know, but in general there's people that are running things. I I feel like that's, that's the thing they've been trying to do forever. But yeah, you're right, people here don't really run this stuff they're putting positions because people need them to do certain things for them.
Speaker 2:Exactly, man, they always tell us this and that to make people have hope. But I'm like, first of all, if you, if you're the blue because you're democrats and you're red and republicans, that don't even make sense to me. That's the same as bloods and crips, y'all just fighting. Y'all should be working together, and and they don't. So I'm like, yeah, I don't really care one, one way or another, they're both bad, they don't, they both don't. So I'm like, yeah, I don't really care One way or another, they're both bad, they both don't care about us, they're both going to do evil things to the people.
Speaker 3:Hey, I'm with you, I agree with you guys. The most Is it rigged, yeah, but they already know who they want in Thomas.
Speaker 2:Jefferson changed it. When they made that electoral vote they changed it. They was like we're not gonna allow nobody in that, we don't want in anymore I mean, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3:I mean, is the system rigged? Yeah, you just said it, the electoral vote. If people don't look into the reason why I've said it multiple times on this show, why the electoral college was put into place and chris, do you remember?
Speaker 2:yeah, because guess what, now the popular vote don't matter no more well, I'm saying.
Speaker 3:They basically said the american public is too stupid to pick their own president. Yeah, and they didn't want us to just put anybody in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but now, but now they've got trump. Who's just? He was like a personality. He's always had money and been a personality, but we've seen him on everything from the Simpsons he was in Home Alone, like. We've seen him have his own reality shows and the next thing, you know, he's president. But I remember when I'm young. I'm like every president and they told us, in order to run for president, you must have a military or political background of some sort.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly that's another great point. It's like now the standard doesn't. Yeah, the standard to be the president. The bar is so low now, you know, and nothing against felons or you know cause people do shit and they get. But now at jobs, take that felony shit off an application.
Speaker 2:That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3:The question are you a convicted felon? Take it off now. Get it off. Don't even have that on there?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I don't care that he has felonies. My thing is, if he's allowed to be the president in the face of this country, then everybody else in this country should not be told no, they can't even work at amazon or walmart because they have felonies. Yeah I mean yeah like oh, you can't even apply here. I got a felony. What well, you can be the president of the united states, that's what kind of message? Are you sending the?
Speaker 3:kids.
Speaker 2:Let's just say exactly that's the thing we buy they gotta choose one way or the other, if it makes sense and it doesn't at all.
Speaker 3:So I know you two didn't vote, did you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I voted when I was a senior in high school. That was yeah, I think it was Mark for Copchack man. I'm telling you yeah, that's the last time I voted, but no.
Speaker 3:I don't vote for them. That was the Reagan years, wasn't it? That's how long yeah the Cold War man.
Speaker 2:Right, vote for them. That was the raging years, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:that's how long, yeah, the cold war man right nah, but I know people be like man, if you don't vote, you don't got no right to say nothing about it. I'm like, well, I don't really care about it. I say the same thing every time. It doesn't matter if it's bill, george, the other george, uh, barack, they all the same. They tell you one thing and they don't give a fuck. They just do what they want to do and still get their money and their power and keep it moving. And then they make appearances here and there when they're older, like wave to the crowd the ex-president, and that's it. They ain't made no changes, no positive changes for the people. They've. They've done it all for their own hidden agendas and stuff and because there are puppets and they've got to follow certain protocols.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, what I love is like all these Trump supporters and stuff that are like, oh well, the grocery prices are going to go down to gas prices. It's a dude, he doesn't control that shit. Like, come when he officially goes into office again what is it January 20th or something? On that day, on January 21st, I want everybody to sit there and say gas prices are going to go to all-time low and gas and groceries are going to go down. Prove it. They don't control it. He doesn't. The president no president controls that shit.
Speaker 2:The only difference with him is he's super rich. He's not like them other presidents. He pays people, so he got power and he got money involved and all kinds of stuff, including oil, so you never know what he's capable of. That's why I think they want him in this president position too is because he is a businessman and this whole country is a fucking business.
Speaker 4:It's only going to benefit the royal and the wealthy people, and Trump does a good job at doing that. That's why he's been put in office, man, why would we go and vote for someone that has already been in office, that really hasn't done nothing for minority communities, and you've got minorities out here voting for this fool?
Speaker 3:Which is unreal to me Blows my mind, which is unreal.
Speaker 4:Blows my fucking mind we got a woman in Kamala Harris who's already been in-house for four years. I mean it would make sense to just choose her right Because she's already there.
Speaker 3:The lesser of the two evils.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 3:Put it that way, because I'm not saying she was going to be any better. She'd been a little better.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and all these idiots that go out and vote for Trump. You know what I mean. You're like sitting here like he's going to do you guys a favor. No, he's going to do the 1% a favor. You're the 99%. He's a businessman and we are brainwashed for 9 to 5 jobs every day and he supports that. He supports that 100%.
Speaker 3:What I want to say, what you just said. He supports the 1% Trump. It's like you other 99% who voted for him. You're not even in his same tax bracket. He don't care about you all and you're voting for this guy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but, like you said, he has pending felonies. So if you go and put an application or resume in online with Indeed to try to get a job and they go ahead and review your background, do you know that those pending charges are going to show up on your background check and they're going to tell you hey look, we can't hire you because you have a pending charge. That's a job, but this guy has the same situation as other individuals and he can run for the president. Like it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:He won.
Speaker 4:And he won on top of it.
Speaker 2:It just shows the support system in this country is way more different than a lot of people think, at least the way we think. There's a lot more land out there than we'd be seeing and there's places where people don't live the same way we live or see the same things we see. They just see and know what they know and I. Then they're brainwashed too, maybe, and they're like yeah, that's it, because they don't even see people of color or minorities, so to speak. They don't see even you know people from other countries like that. They'd be like no, this is all we see and this is what we want to see yeah, man, and it's crazy man.
Speaker 4:And they, they have trademarks on everything because a lot of ideas that were, you know, presented back in the day were were not founded by those actual people. Those actual people stole other people's idea or either bought their idea from it and put a patent on it, because a lot of people that created stuff were minorities and they just didn't have the extra money to put patents on it. That's why they couldn't trademark what they did yeah, because those people got bullied exactly we're like. We all know about edison man.
Speaker 2:Edison stole a lot of ideas from his, from good friends of his man yeah, tesla really created a lot of things, but they created it to be free and better for the people, and people stepped in. It was like no, and they took our deals, ran with it and they killed off the people. That really did it and created it for the to help people out, like he wanted to create free energy.
Speaker 4:Yes, free energy and do you know? And they, killed him.
Speaker 2:They was like hell, no. And now they gave everything to a dude named Thomas Edison. Yeah, right, but they do that in so many ways, things we would never even know about. That's just one of the things we know about. Imagine how much stuff has been created and how the allergies and stuff and people have stolen and killed off these people.
Speaker 3:You're right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's just like Elon Musk's new truck, that Tesla looking truck and you see what you just called it yeah, what a Tesla?
Speaker 2:yeah, they took Tesla's ideals and killed him, and he wanted to create free energy. Yeah, you calling that car and a truck a Tesla? Yeah, that's because that's what they named it after him yeah, man, like they be. Yeah, that's because that's what they named it after him.
Speaker 4:Yeah man, like they be telling us oh shit news his name. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Wow, bro, you know, they're telling us right in front of our face, but apparently there was a model of that truck back in 1875 and they called it a chuck wagon vs.
Speaker 4:Hence where you get the food, the chuck wagon and this thing on tesla and this thing was designed the same way, man, just people being in control. Power, uh, yeah, well you know, trump wants it's all tied in. When it comes back to this election man, these people are hand-picked are handpicked by the most powerful people in the world.
Speaker 3:Speaking of Elon Musk, Trump wants to hire him as a financial advisor or some shit on his staff.
Speaker 4:It's a bad idea, man. This dude is really trying to eliminate the people and keep this world alive with the 1%, and then they just rebuild civilization.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're all into killing all of us off. That's why they're creating these diseases and going away in broad daylight in front of us with genocides and everything else, because they're like look what y'all gonna do to us. Y'all can't even really see us.
Speaker 4:Yeah, man, and you know, like, I know, like all these ideas of how to make this, and that it's all written down. There's a blueprint for everything, bro, and those 1% people have majority of those blueprints.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the powers that be.
Speaker 4:Yeah, man the other that be yeah, man, we're not the other 99% the other 99%, they're just.
Speaker 3:This man is supporting them. No, he's not.
Speaker 4:It's like the world repeating itself. Man, the 99% are basically slaves. We go and we slave nine to five to earn these people billions, and they pay us 15, maybe to 2,000 every two weeks and it's crazy because we allow it, because we're their sheep and we outnumber them by the masses, but we allow it exactly too many people are afraid and I always tell people all the time, their biggest excuses I got a job I was buried to say and the other one is I have a family and kids.
Speaker 2:yeah, you do, but what's going to matter? They got to keep dealing with the same thing and the history just keeps going and going. Eventually we have to rebel, but too many people are afraid I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 4:They are afraid All people's excuses.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got kids and I got a job, Afraid by the imaginary people that we can't see nothing.
Speaker 4:And what are you afraid for? You're fighting for your rights.
Speaker 2:It happens in every country down there too, where they try to rebel against their government, but we don't do it.
Speaker 4:And that's why people that try to become leaders and do rebel they get killed because they're powerful.
Speaker 2:But I will say, if you're thinking about it, then that storm in the capital that is kind of rebelling against your government too, though it is they did it in their own way, there's like, and they ran right up in there but I think it was their message of saying hey look, we, we are powerful.
Speaker 4:We can't overpower you guys. We can't come up with our own plan to catch you off guard even though I think that was known about.
Speaker 2:That should have never happened, because obviously most people will tell you, if it was black and brown people, that would have never happened. They would have had so much security and military personnel right there before y'all got there.
Speaker 4:Bro, there would have been shots fired. There was not one officer on that property that shot. I mean they stormed the White House, bro.
Speaker 2:The Capitol building, but yeah.
Speaker 3:Which should never. The Capitol building my bad which, what it should never, I mean, it did happen, so I shouldn't say which it never happened.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying in general, as the masses, we don't. We don't stand up against our own government and the people that the powers that you just said, the powers that be, we don't do it.
Speaker 3:We don't man.
Speaker 2:You're right.
Speaker 3:Other countries do it, and I think about this too.
Speaker 2:We never do it Like, we just take it Because they've created this big system for us where they make us think we're all so free and got that American dream, and they're really teasing most people. Oh, american dream? Yeah, to a certain extent, but you're still going to go to work and pay taxes and then pay more taxes, and then pay more taxes.
Speaker 3:I got a job. But Chris, you said it though If nobody does anything, they ever steps up as the American public, then it's just going to continue. You sit there and say, well, if you care about your family, then do something about it. And to me it's simple as going to local council meet. You know what I mean, stuff like that in your own community. But people want to bitch all the time, and I shoot I think we've talked about this before nobody, no, bitch about stuff I'm not talking about no local stuff right now it all is hand in hand.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying, like those people need to go with us too.
Speaker 2:They're all part of the 99%. Those people ain't in the ones.
Speaker 3:But you know what I mean. You know what I mean. It starts with your local government. I mean we used to think that.
Speaker 2:But if we're going to really rebel against our government, we all need to just come together. I'm like let's go get it.
Speaker 4:And, in reality, where you should really show up, then is the capitol building, congress and all that.
Speaker 3:Those are the ones and all it is. Those are the ones that put the rules test in this country. It's just a simple protest, like you said. Other countries do it. They protest their government all the time. How? Many times you see over in other countries.
Speaker 4:They're always freaking, protesting yeah, but the security for homeland, though. They're trained to fucking abuse you though when you, when you, when you, when you protest, so they're, they're really abusing your right, because you have the right to do that, but they tell you to stay back. Don't get this close. What do you mean? I can walk anywhere I want. I thought this was a free country.
Speaker 3:And that's the thing. People don't understand their rights either, you know. I mean they think, oh, we can't do that. A lot of people think you can't protest. Yeah, you can protest. I hate to say it. That's how dumb people are. They don't know their rights.
Speaker 2:We've done it out here many a times. Wayne's been up here before when he's been right in the middle of it. He's like shit, Like thousands and thousands of people. But I've seen where they've said they're making certain laws where they're like you're not allowed to protest, no more.
Speaker 4:The million man march and shit like that.
Speaker 2:They're making laws, but they can. They can make those laws. That's why I'm like well, you got to run up on Congress and the Senate and all of that together, Because they're the ones that's voting and making these laws.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But at the end of the day, they're not the ones that control everything. We're talking about the whole people that control basically the New World Order. They've been doing that. They just call it New World. Now it's been there. It's because it's 2020s, maybe I mean 2000s. It ain't no New World. They want to create their New World, I guess, because they just want the whole the whole Earth to conform to just what they want to do, and that's it. So they don't care if you're in Sweden, south Africa or Brazil.
Speaker 4:They want all of us to listen. Yeah, they want to control us, man.
Speaker 3:So all right question who would you like to see run for president? Since you know the bar is so low? Pat Williams. I guess I put it to Pat Williams.
Speaker 2:But they wouldn't win. It's not because, like we just said, they're hand-picked.
Speaker 4:Definitely, and Cat's not going to be a puppet. He's expressed that numerous times. Nobody is going to control me. Man, gotta live your life, man.
Speaker 3:I want to see Hollywood Hogan.
Speaker 4:Hollywood.
Speaker 3:Hogan. Hogan, I will. But so, alright, like we've talked about, we all three of us don't like. Well, four, I know he don't either, but my whole thing, I'm just still blown away and you still want, and by a freaking landslide at that, you know he just didn't like, oh, barely won. He had 312 electoral votes to Kamala's 226. So if you look, it's like the whole country is red, except for the west coast states and a few on the east coast but why?
Speaker 4:because they keep us divided. Everything's divided, man. It's like, if you look at the whole map, like trump won the whole middle of the map and then on the little small outsides, Kamala won all that man it's just like. And the certain kind of people that are located in these states. You know, I hate to bring it up. I hate to bring it up, but there's still a lot of racist people in the world, man, and they're definitely not voting for Kamala.
Speaker 3:Well, I think what it has to do with a lot of racist people in the world, man, and they're definitely not voting for kamala. Well, I think what it has to do with a lot of it is well, which didn't help her is america is not ready for a woman to be president, first and foremost, and, unfortunately, a minority woman president, because, look, hillary tried to run right and I mean this, let's just keep it. They're not going to vote for. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:But why is that being sexist Like?
Speaker 3:it's being racist, sexist, However you want to discriminate like most men and even women think the same way that a woman can't be a boss, you know, just like a supervisor. Women have it hard enough.
Speaker 4:But see, it goes back to like that American way, that American dream, like the man was always in control and they want to keep it that way, which is disrespectful and being racist and sexist towards the women.
Speaker 3:Which we know he is.
Speaker 2:But there's a lot of women that don't vote for Hillary or come on, that's what I'm saying. There's a lot of women that don't vote for Hillary, or they don't want the women in it, either true?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's because women even feel the same way. Women hate on each other, they do.
Speaker 4:I just I mean, I don't know. I guess people look at it like women just don't have that powerful figure when coming to dealing with other countries. Man, like I mean, I don't have that powerful figure when coming to dealing with other countries. Man, I mean I don't know man.
Speaker 3:So what do you feel? You feel Trump's going to change anything. Fuck no To me if he does, it's going to be for the worst. It'll just be an insurrection to part two.
Speaker 2:He's bringing people's true colors out and they're excited as fuck that he's back in office Because man they're storming everybody. Look, that was the time of the statues and everything else, that Charlottesville thing, that was all during Trump time and it's going to get worse now because those people feel like, you know, we can come out now and be ourselves and they really feel like that confederate flag is something I feel like.
Speaker 4:I feel like china is gonna hack our computer systems man, our cyber. It's gonna be a cyber attack with him in office man, I think. I think there was a cyber attack when he was in office last time I believe you're right.
Speaker 3:There was a big like cyber attack I don't think it's like china and stuff.
Speaker 2:I think it's the p, the powers that be, and they're just blaming on whoever.
Speaker 3:So we can always fight each other and be divided true well, yeah, and that's a good point that is a good point it goes. It goes back to this man was dividing it. Well, the true colors, I should say, came out in this country.
Speaker 2:So trump is dividing our own people in this country more, and that's going to happen again very soon. And then the people that be that control like that's why they want Trump in office. They're like, oh, we're going to divide them already. They ain't going to be able to beat nobody. And then they got all these other people blaming oh it's Russia, oh it's Ukraine, you know what I mean? And really it's them, because they control those countries too, whether people want to believe it or not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean they just try to deflect it, but what's really the problem in our country, which is who's in office right now? That was designed.
Speaker 2:It's designed like that Tear them up from within side. What do you say to enemy within? Which means he's talking about his own people, and when he's saying make America great again, that was because he was like all right, y'all had obama for eight years no, no, no.
Speaker 1:What is? We don't want?
Speaker 2:no person of color, no black man and no offers on no black woman. We, this is white only that what's the slogan? Be then not whites only cause oh shit.
Speaker 3:Well, besides that, besides it's like let's make America white again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's basically it, that's what it should.
Speaker 3:That's really what it is.
Speaker 2:I can't knock him for his business acumen but at the end of the day, yeah, I think that you know he tells people a bunch of BS, but I think all of them do, man. But yeah, he's definitely going to have people fight within the country.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's already happening.
Speaker 4:Right when he won people were.
Speaker 2:I mean by the numbers.
Speaker 4:I don't know how true it is, but I heard when he won. I heard that Putin was going to be pulling back out of Ukraine. Man, that war was pretty much going to end, all because of Trump. I heard there's ties between trump, musk and putin. That's, that's what I've been hearing, man, a lot that was back when he was in office, because they got money, man they got.
Speaker 2:They got different money and power yeah, people don't understand.
Speaker 3:He's buddy buddy with putin and all these, these dictators exactly man you know. So what does that tell you?
Speaker 2:the one percent yeah there's people that that even control them to a certain extent. I know Taters, exactly, man, you know. So what does that tell you? The 1% yeah, there's people that even control them to a certain extent. Oh, I know, yeah.
Speaker 3:But no, I'll act like a Trump. You know they'll be like oh no, it's just to keep the peace. No, they're sitting there drinking Colt 45 and sitting back watching NFL football today. Probably yeah, them boys are tight for a reason.
Speaker 4:And I also heard that Trump's parents were KKK members.
Speaker 3:Never heard that. I mean, I think he's the grand wizard, honestly.
Speaker 4:We just need to come together, man. But people like Chrisris said, people are scared, man, they don't want to make a movement. You got to put your life on the line. If you want change, man, if you, if you're never going to get changed if you don't do something about it man when we was young man.
Speaker 2:I remember man, and I'm still that way, but a lot of people aren't. You're supposed to love your neighbor. Nowadays, everybody's afraid of whoever lives next door. They're like oh, I want to talk to him or her. I'm like what?
Speaker 4:Yeah, you don't even know who's living beside you. You know what I'm saying it could be the mob.
Speaker 2:Times have changed. Man, People don't care. That's sad.
Speaker 4:Yeah, man.
Speaker 3:Yep response was you know, when people made posts about Trump winning or whatever, and people just be like, well, all I know is I'm going to work tomorrow, that's it. That's their intent.
Speaker 2:I got to go to work tomorrow, and the only reason we have to go to work doesn't matter who the president is it's because we decide to get up. When we wake up, if we're blessed enough to do that and go to wherever we're employed at, we don't have to go. I tell people at my when I come to my job. All the time I'm like, if you don't want to be here, you don't have to come.
Speaker 2:Not, no mean shit, but I'm like it's all honestly, like if this ain't something that makes you happier, something you feel like doing right now, then go out and find another job, because it's our own life, that's. The time is ticking like why would you come every day? Oh, I gotta go to work tomorrow because I gotta pay bills, gotta put food on table, and guess what? They're getting all that money from us. So when you go to work when you go to work, though, then you're getting the money so you can go give them back to them for the food and gas and everything else, yeah it's a whole funny system, how they got us in the man, and then all people do is fight over that money fake paper that's like you saying earlier.
Speaker 4:You was like man energy, electricity, all that. All that shit was supposed to be free bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's free. And they're charging us out the ass for lights and water, and I'm like man, and if you don't pay it on time it's a late fee or it gets cut off.
Speaker 4:Or cut off bro. Your supply of chain is cut off bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's cruel man, it's true, but we don't rebel against them like that. It's not about rebelling that. You see how they got us fighting because of so-called colors and stuff, because of the pigmentations, and no, we fight each other all the time so that they, they, they ain't worried about us trying to come to them for what's really causing the issues right and they keep it. They're the ones that just. That's why they're the one percent what.
Speaker 3:what have we said too about this country? America is the only one that goes by color.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Most people in other countries. Don't call each other black and white.
Speaker 3:Yep, if you're German, you're German. If you're Canadian, you're black. You know what I mean. We're the only country that breaks color.
Speaker 2:Everybody can see a difference in the melanin and you know what I mean your skin tone.
Speaker 3:But that don't mean that they don't do it like that. Why do we have to point it out?
Speaker 2:Like I know, I got eyes Because they've instilled it in us since they came over here to create this so-called new country, this new world.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 2:I wanted to point that out.
Speaker 4:It's just like when you do a job application, I think back in the day it of day it was either it either said whites or caucasian, vice versa, and then all of a sudden it got changed and now it's predominantly like caucasian or white or something.
Speaker 2:it's vice versa, like my issue is why I even asked my hr department before. I'm like, why do they still have that on application their ethnicity? I'm like, why does it matter?
Speaker 4:well now they're not white.
Speaker 3:I can't say a lot of them, it's voluntary. Now, before, when we were broke, you had to put your race and your sex.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but on an application for y'all. Back in the day it was white. Then they changed it to Caucasian. It's like huh. It's like they're making this shit up, bro. Why is it black? Back in the day it was African-American.
Speaker 2:Remember that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But my thing is, they're using it as the color of our skin, but black, that's going to be like oh, african-american, it can't be that. Because what if you're from Haiti? You know what I mean? What if you're from Australia or wherever you're from, and you're black? If you're from Haiti, you know what I mean? What if you're from Australia or wherever you're from, and you're black? If you're from India and your skin tones are black? Dominican Republic they're black, but they're black. No, they're Dominican. This and that. I'm like. But I know somebody the same color as him, but now he's black. He's only African-American black. But the other guy, no, he's not black, he, he's Brazilian. I'm like, I get that, but his skin tone is the same color as Wayne's. Yeah, exactly. So what's the difference then? You're right, that's an American term.
Speaker 1:Whites and blacks.
Speaker 2:It's all to make us fight each other man.
Speaker 3:We'll end with this and move on. There's only one race, and that's the human race. Trump, there you go, your cherry top.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. We could overcome all that. We can overcome all of it with love, man, but there's too many people that still really love to be able to hate.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's to hate. This is all I'm saying. It's a lot easier or a lot harder to smile than it is to frown. It takes energy to smile. Think about that, Right, when you smile, you're working your muscles. So people, I'll leave it. Think of that. When I first heard that, I'm like damn people are right to smile. Laugh, you know, people live longer. Yeah, but we're just a negative society.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they love it. That's why that's all you see on the news and everything else.
Speaker 3:But yeah, they're talking about news man, then y'all want to dive into some of the free agency. We'll hit on the Hayfield High School, with all the schools getting suspended and banned. Yeah, that's a Nova school. We'll end with the draft, the deadline talk in the NFL.
Speaker 2:Well, I think there might be a draft. Again, speaking about the elections, right, yeah, oh jeez.
Speaker 3:Hey, you never know with him. There's always been rumors of that. I'll be honest, even before him Go back to the draft. Good thing. Y'all's boys are grown up now because they've been drafted Anytime there's a war or a huge war, it's like, oh, they're going to bring the draft back.
Speaker 4:I'll be like Pee Wee Kirkland, I ain't going to the draft man, you're too old now.
Speaker 2:None of us got to go, we're way too old, we're good, we're gold.
Speaker 4:Man don't ever say never, man, you're crazy.
Speaker 2:You're not making no 40-year-old men go Motherfucker they need you.
Speaker 4:Look, your ass is coming.
Speaker 2:They'd have to kill me, I wouldn't go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's their way of controlling us. But all right guys. Uh, moving on, and the big topic here is a lot of local school to hell even around the country. But in our tri-state area, I should say southern virginia, coaches, coaching staffs, are getting busted for ineligible players here left and right. So I'll. The huge headline is Hayfield High School and if nobody knows the backstory to this, the coaches at Hayfield used to coach at Freedom High School which is a big CA.
Speaker 4:I heard about it 6A okay.
Speaker 3:So they were there three years, I believe. But anyway, they're back-to-back state 6A champions, yep. So come offseason they're back-to-back state 6A champions. So come offseason they go to Hayfield and, awfully funny, everybody's like, damn Hayfield, why are they so damn good now, so everybody knows supposedly 30 players or more transferred to Hayfield from freedom and that's just a huge story. So in the end they are banned for the next two years because the vhsl stepped in and investigated the whole situation and they're banned for two years because, basically, like over 30 ineligible players on that you know. So if y'all got anything to say about and I I don't personally know the coach that you know I've coached against them in uh travel and I I can say that the kids follow, they coach travel football. You know, if anybody's heard of playmakers, elite, elite from out of woodbridge. So basically it's just he took, he's had all these kids since they were eight, you know, and played together what's so wrong about it?
Speaker 4:if they want to go play for that coach what they should be allowed and see that's the quick, like that's the thing like he goes back to.
Speaker 3:He's built a program. I get that. I respect that. He's built to me a hell of a coach. Both of them, his two brothers, jeff Overton and or Jeff Overton, his son plays for him and shout out to him because that boy is probably going to go a huge D1 school, great running back athlete. So basically Darrell Overton and Jeff Overton are together. I think Jeff's the defensive coordinator and his brother because I think he's the head coach.
Speaker 4:slash coordinator, the Overtons. Oh man, I've heard of a guy named Doug Overton. I played semi-pro football against him.
Speaker 3:I think he did play his dad. They played semi-pro football against him. I think he did play his dad. They played semi-pro. All that maybe at a higher level.
Speaker 4:Yeah, his dad actually got cut by the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3:Anyway, huge down there, Down in Woodbridge, in that area, whatever going on, Like I said, they brung the whole staff. Basically all of Freedom just got planted in Hayfield.
Speaker 4:Okay, but here's my thing, so their proof of residence. Is it within that district?
Speaker 3:This is just here. See, that's why I'd love to get Shoot. Jeff, come on the show. Yeah, like, like and defend yourself. This is what I've heard and read through the great. You know that they were picking kids up, like meeting at a 7-11 and picking kids up and taking them to practice dropping off. You know all this. So this is just here. So, like shit I've heard and then, uh, sure, I lost my train of thought, guys. But, um, anyway, picking them up, all this all uh fake.
Speaker 3:About the address thing, that's what I wanted to answer. I heard that some student used an address that doesn't even exist, like they put on their paperwork, like, like street does not even exist. So that's what you know. To get them to just falsify. Oh damn Trump, falsifying documents. But it's just a huge scandal. Of course parents are mad. I know some of the parents, uh, with kids on the team. You know you feel to me, ultimately you feel bad ultimately for the kids, right I team. You know you feel to me, ultimately you feel bad ultimately for the kids right. And they banned them like the last game of the or right before the last game of the season. They made the VHSL. So of course that's why parents are. Oh, they were eligible at the beginning of the season. They had no problem, and then now, all of a sudden, yeah, they banned him right at the end of the season.
Speaker 4:Yeah, interesting though, man. I mean it's hard to tell. I mean this freedom coach, ex-freedom coach.
Speaker 4:He was probably offered some cash to come to hayfield you never know, and he probably told him hey look, I'll get majority of my players to come here, we're gonna win, have success right away. You'll get a majority of my players to come here, we're going to win. Have success right away. You owe me X amount of dollars, who knows. I mean, it's hard to tell what happened with this whole situation. If a coach leaves one school and then brings almost his entire team that way, there's got to be something fishy with it, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah and that's the thing we don't know as fact. You never know. They do offer coaches money right I'm sure, of course, well, of course they get paid.
Speaker 4:You know you got boosters. There's ways of getting around things. Man Boosters can take money out. That money could be put in an envelope handed to him, so there's always a cover-up for the school. You know what I mean. Boosters have their own personal accounts.
Speaker 3:It's not tied in with the schools okay, I'll touch on the article a little bit. This is from sports illustratedcom. This is how big this story is, guys. So it says in july, according to the fairfax times, the fairfax county coaches association sent a letter to superintendent at fairfax county public schools stating that the scandal at hayfield raised serious concerns in red red flags. And then, uh, in late august, fairfax County cleared Hayfield. So this is you know, fairfax County school system cleared them. That's why they were good to go to get a little explanation here of student-athlete recruitment violations. It confirms that Hayfield student-athletes met residential requirements, according to Fairfax County Public Schools.
Speaker 3:Okay, so then the VHSL stepped in and exercised its right to conduct a separate investigation and, according to the Washington Post, the VHSL's initial report found that 14 players transferred from Freedom to Hayfield after Overton was hired in February. In addition, the program added five transfers from private schools and five incoming students. So that's a total of what? 25, 24, 25 kids. Okay, so that's. So there you go. And I will say this I mean, we all know nobody's that naive that recruiting at the high school level it's real, all good, but it's real. You know it don't all good, but it's make it legal people. But you know. Like I say, that's what we know about that so far. Well, they're bad, they got banned.
Speaker 3:Of course, make it legal, but don't make it look so obvious Like I mean, we know when we were kids in school, like, hey, people move back and forth to James Wood, Haley, blah, blah, blah, you know.
Speaker 4:I mean, he went to a school that wasn't winning shit and then all of a sudden they're blowing people out 52-0. It's looking like freedom scores all over again. I mean, it was so obvious man. So VHSL, they definitely had to step in.
Speaker 3:I want to try to defend them and find a way like okay, but how like? It's just basically freedom in hayfield uniforms. Like you said, it's like hayfield. I think they've lost one game, though this year. They lost to a team in maryland, but it was close. They lost to a big school in maryland, but anyway still. And then now freedom. Two-time defending state champs hasn't won a damn game all year. So I'm trying to look for a positive, but, like you just said, don't make it too damn obvious. Yeah, man.
Speaker 2:The coach left from Freedom to go there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he left Freedom to go to Hayfield.
Speaker 2:Were you listening? Indiana's 9-0, 10-0. Now they're beasts 13 of their players left with their coach, all from jmu. So so those little jmu guys, so supposedly right, them small jmu kind of guys, they're all at indiana now with their coach and they're over there waxing everybody in the big 10 yep all of them that's how it goes, bro. But they're from little JMU. You see, there's not a big difference. Sometimes man them boys can play down there in Harrisonburg.
Speaker 4:There's diamonds in all kinds of roughs man.
Speaker 2:They're 10-0.
Speaker 3:Let's touch on like we say. There's multiple schools here, we just don't want to be on Hayfield. You know mills had to uh, forfeit a couple games but my reason is why are these individuals ineligible?
Speaker 2:why won't they tell us?
Speaker 3:that's the thing. It's like they don't tell you. I mean maybe it's because they're minors, but you know it's a kid and I could see, so that's probably why they don't mention. But I mean it could be multiple reasons it could see, so that's probably why they don't mention.
Speaker 4:But I mean to me just give a reason. It could be multiple things Like it could be.
Speaker 2:I don't believe that. Look at Allen Iverson.
Speaker 4:It could be anything, man. You could be academically ineligible. Like it's hard to tell what rule that they broke.
Speaker 3:I think all of them it's just.
Speaker 2:To me it's a difference If a kid's ineligible because he's currently got a poor grade average in math or you know history, as compared to if he's 19 or 20 or from a whole other school district or state. Now he's on your team. That's a difference to me.
Speaker 3:So I just want to mention the schools real quick. So Central started this whole thing off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they was like 4-0 when they got in trouble.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 4-5-0. At the time they had an ineligible player and they had to forfeit those four wins, I believe. But now, just the other day, they appealed it and they won, so they got all them. They're the only one that's won an appeal appealed it and they won, so they got all them. They're the only one that's won an appeal. And because they said they did state, like you know, they proved his residence, whatever on that one. Then you got Spring Mills, who had to forfeit games, and, like I said, Martinsburg had to forfeit one against one game against Musselman because they said they had an ineligible player during that game. And so it goes on. It's a mess.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying. So you got to really pinpoint what they're ineligible for us because, like before the season even starts, everybody has to fill out a paper with all your information on it when you were born, what year your proof of residence. That falls back on the VHSL because they have to review all that.
Speaker 3:Obviously they didn't do their job, first and foremost, is the school's athletic director. Aren't they supposed to make sure that everybody's eligible paperwork's legit? Your athletic director does but and then it goes to the v. I guess yeah, but like they have to investigate that's something that they just take them for.
Speaker 4:They're basically giving them the benefit of the doubt. Okay, all right, I believe you that all your players are eligible.
Speaker 3:They should still go behind them and check I mean to me, yeah, because, yeah, because then their job's on the line. Because what about AD and Hayfield?
Speaker 4:So that's just VHL letting it ride until they find something suspicious, and then they'll start their investigation.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, that's like anything, like NCAA, they're not going to investigate a school until they feel they have to. Yeah, necessarily have to. So yeah, necessarily have to. So yeah, but anyway, to me, ultimately it falls on the ad at every school. To me, you, you know, you're the empowering body over all sports and I mean, I know, I'm sure they got a lot on their plate, but that's the most important thing, you gotta make sure your student athletes are eligible but there's.
Speaker 2:That's the same way, like you have a king and you know you have a president, this and that, like he's the main person. Yeah, he's the director of athletics. So then you have all those individuals, that and their own athletic departments and their, their sections. They got to be on top of it, and then the coaches need to be on top of it and the teachers need to work with them. Like it's a whole lot of stuff. Well, yeah, there's a tree, that's what. That's what grades. What if they're illegal transfers? They're just coming and using a fake address or not even using one. That's why I wish they would tell us. I think that would be more wrong for me than a kid that might be failing a class here and there.
Speaker 3:But, Chris, that's what I just said. I said what I've heard is at Hayfield there were students like one student I know that used an address, an alias address. It doesn't even exist. They've completely made up and that whoever's, they're not.
Speaker 2:They're not mentoring and helping that kid at all, because there was no way you should use a fake address that's what I, you know so, and that's the thing that, honestly, who has the balls to do that like? And you maybe could have done that when we was kids. You can't do that now. The Google Maps and everything else it's over. You can put it right in a blade and it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3:It doesn't even exist. It didn't exist or it was a street where the house didn't. It was a legit street but there was no house there, whatever. But y'all know it's just a complete fake address. Yeah, just a complete fake address. So, yeah, yeah, it's wild man.
Speaker 3:I just feel, ultimately, I just feel bad for the kids, you know, especially ones that weren't involved in all this. You know what I mean. Yeah, you feel bad for the like, especially seniors, if that's their last year, right, or even what the junior, because they're going to be banned for two years, the next two years for playoff play. They can't get you in the playoff, regardless of whatever the record is. So that's just, ultimately, who I feel bad for. But we touched on, you know, this whole high school scandal of legal ineligible players here going on here, a lot here lately. So I guess somebody since we keep talking to powers, that be, you know, the vhsl or the whole empowering body of high school athletics, is cracking down. Okay, because you know fort hills in maryland, you know, everybody knows fort hills like what, to fit three times state, like they dominate in football, and they just got, just got called an ineligible player and had to forfeit some games.
Speaker 4:But I heard it's not going to affect them going into the playoffs though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's the thing, that's what I was about to say. I was like all these schools you mentioned, like Central, who won their appeal, fort Hill, martinsburg, who forfeited a game, all for the same reasons, I get you know, under the same umbrella, but they they're not banned. Hayfield got banned for the next two years. So that's the only difference in the whole story. But I mean, I guess I get it, because when you're bringing a whole, you know 50 kids, it's not just one, you know that's, that's kind of nuts. So but yeah, yeah, I'd love, I'd love to get people on you know some more inside info on that topic and definitely discuss that more. You know, and I feel we could probably get somebody on here. That's, you know, in that whole situation, knows something. So, guys, let's move on to NFL trade deadline, which was big, the big NFL trades, and the first one that pops to me out of my mind is DeAndre Hopkins getting traded for a fifth-round pick. Am I correct?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think it was a fifth round. Yeah for a fifth-round pick, Am I correct?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it was a fifth-round yeah for a fifth-round pick to the Chiefs. So, hey, the Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl again. It's a wrap. Like he played in that last year and it was old D-hop all over again. So Mahomes has got his weapon. So to me that one sticks. And then, of course, what sticks out to me also, because I'm a Dallas fan is we traded for what is it, mingo?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what we for our fourth round pick.
Speaker 4:Mingo.
Speaker 3:For a fourth. Now, how did the Chiefs get a give up a fifth for DeHop and then we're giving a fourth for Mingo. Really, it doesn't make sense. That's what Steph says. And then, of course, your commanders get Lattimore from the Saints.
Speaker 4:Marshawn.
Speaker 3:That was huge. That was a huge addition.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's not playing today, but he'll probably hopefully play for us Thursday when we play at Philly.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we're going to need that man because Philly's got a couple good receivers, but I do like the Marshawn Lattimore trade if he has anything left in the tank, because we could use a little help at DB.
Speaker 3:He's 28. Yeah, but we know he's had that.
Speaker 2:Mind-blowing fact though, fellas in the last four seasons he's given up one touchdown.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was like that's crazy To me. If I was playing in the NFL like that, if I gave up one every four games, I'd feel like I'm a beast One in four years yeah that's incredible. Yeah, I wonder what receiver scored on him, because that's crazy Right. But yeah that's a huge pickup. That was the pickup of the free agency to me.
Speaker 3:Well, that one, like I said, we needed that. Dude like I said you guys definitely upgraded, the commander's upgraded to getting Lattimore, the chief's definitely upgraded to getting.
Speaker 2:When I saw that I'm like that's fucking nuts the biggest pick up. So I guess it should be offensive and defensive.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like to me that was huge because people forgot about DeAndre Hopkins because he was in that hole of Tennessee. You know what I mean. Was in that hole of Tennessee with no court. You know what I mean. Like the boy can still. I love DeHoff. He's like probably my favorite receiver.
Speaker 2:He was my favorite for like seven, eight years in a row. He was a beast man. He still is. They're right, people probably forgot, oh they did and now they're like dude.
Speaker 3:He's back. Patrick Mahomes, he killed it in that last game they played. Yeah, I have them, so I'm glad. Yeah, I dropped him, I think early, because I'm like he's on the freaking titans. He's gonna get like two fantasy points maybe. So anyway.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like you all works out when he gets picked up by mahomes yeah, yeah, right, but you all definitely upgraded and the chiefs obviously with DeHop. I'm trying to look at other trades. Dallas didn't upgrade at all. Dude's caught four passes in four years. I don't know Other big trades this was before the trade that was Amari Cooper going to Buffalo. That was another one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and he's already hurt.
Speaker 3:Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, but I like Amari, he's solid, you know. So what? Oh, and then how could I forget Devontae Adams going to the Jets? Come on, y'all Wake up, put this FaceTime on the show, so Dehop, devontae Adams going to the Jets. What do you think about that reunion with Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 4:Just another way of Aaron Rodgers sobbing, trying to make it look like it's not his fault, but we all know it always comes back down to the quarterback. Way of Aaron Rodgers sobbing, trying to make it look like it's not his fault, but we all know it always comes back down to the quarterback. That's why you get paid the highest on the field you need to produce. You're not producing at a high level anymore, so you got to start taking the blame.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, he's just trying to basically get all his Packers. This is like man, this is like Freedom Hayfield. He's got Devontae Adams and then he has Alan Lazar Two of them. He played for him in Green Bay, but they won last week. Right, yeah, they won last week.
Speaker 1:They beat the Texans.
Speaker 3:That was a big win. I thought the Texans were going to just bury him. There goes the Jets' playoff chances, but they're still alive. Oh, hold on, man, I'm completely wrong. Oh, never mind. Jonathan Bingo for Dallas. I don't think he's going to help at all. Hopefully I'm wrong. But then who is another big one, I don't know. Oh, so I guess we can talk about. Let's just dive a little bit into these weeks' matchups. Wayne, after the trades, because then you got McCaffrey coming back this week. Wayne, after the trades, because then you've got McCaffrey coming back this week too for San Francisco. Don't forget that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but Debo's still banged up. It'd be interesting how much of a he'll be part of the game plan, mccaffrey, because you want to monitor his snaps, you don't want to just throw him back in there. 25, 30 carries, so it'd be interesting to monitor that. 49ers definitely need a win. I like them this week though.
Speaker 3:So are we jumping into your picks now we can dive right on in it, man.
Speaker 4:Last week I went 6-1. This week I got a little bit stirred up for you, man, 6-1, that's good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, this week I like the Bears over the Patriots, I like the Bills over the Colts, I like the Vikings over the Jaguars. An interesting game in the Denver Broncos and Chiefs, but I'll take the Chiefs because there's no way you can beat them at the refs. I'll take the Falcons over New Orleans, I'll take 49ers over the Bucs, I'm damn sure taking my commanders over the Steelers. And I'll give you one more lucky upset game of the week and it's going to be I like the Texans over the Lions. So check back in next week and I'll let you know how I did on that. That right, there was an 8 leg parlay. Like I said last week, I finished 6-1 on a 7 leg parlay. So I was 1 off and went and spread. But we're going to shoot at it again this week, see what we can get and try again next week. Baby, every week whipped up in the pot for you.
Speaker 3:I'm definitely going to throw $2 down on that, wayne. So, everybody, I guess we're going to wrap it up here with Brothers With Opinions me, wayne and Chris and yeah, great show, guys, great show. And until next week. Everyone have a great weekend, or great week at that. And one thing I want to say is, hey, we talked about some, well, pretty touchy subjects. So if anybody wants to be a guest, come on, discuss what we discussed about on previous shows, just hit us up, shoot us an email or anything. We're on Messenger, we're on Facebook. You want to be a guest? Discuss something? This happened before. Remember, when we talked Haley politics, andy Vimmerman hit us up. He's like dude, I got to get on it, you know, talk about that. So, yeah, if you want to get on for anything and bullshit with us, just come on. It's just our opinions, everyone. So, all right, everybody have a great week.
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