Brothers with Opinions -B.W.O.
Four friends discussing Winchester, VA news and topics. Debating political issues, news, social injustice and anything that is up for debate in our world.
Brothers with Opinions -B.W.O.
From High School Gridiron Glory to Social Media's Influence: Exploring Sports, Education, and Youth Empowerment
What if your favorite high school football team is on the brink of a historic playoff run? Join us as we bring you the latest and greatest from the local high school football scene. We break down the thrilling victories and standout performances from teams like Handley, Skyline, and Kettle Run. With Zayden's electrifying 170-yard rushing performance for Skyline and Central's playoff eligibility triumph, this episode is a touchdown of excitement for sports enthusiasts. Not to forget, we take a glimpse into West Virginia's gridiron successes with Spring Mills' impressive shutout win, setting the stage for a vibrant discussion on playoff prospects.
Switching from touchdowns to hoop dreams, we celebrate the achievements of Demitri Gardner, who is making waves on the basketball court against giants like Clemson. As schools gear up for basketball season, we explore the nuances of sports scheduling and the coveted journey to a college's Hall of Fame. Our conversation takes a poignant turn as we shed light on an intriguing local story about a principal who initiated a support class for LGBTQ+ students, sparking diverse reactions from parents and igniting a broader conversation on representation and acceptance in schools.
Ever wondered how social media is reshaping the worldview of today's youth? We tackle the dynamic shift in cultural and religious influences, contrasting past eras with the digital age's pervasive presence. Debates about the greatest basketball players heat up as we attempt to build the ultimate NBA dream team, celebrating legends who redefined the game. The episode concludes with a curious exploration of space theories, time zones, and the mysteries of Antarctica, all while championing the empowerment of youth voices. Through our playful banter and commitment to truth, we invite our listeners to challenge societal norms and make their voices heard.
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Speaker 2:Bringing light to the dark Revolution is our art man a lot of people talk, but they ain't never walked apart. Gotta shine a light on poverty and fight against injustice and always speak the truth. Wow, baby, introduce it, chris.
Speaker 3:Tell them where we are, Tony.
Speaker 4:BWO Brothers with Opinions.
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Speaker 3:All the way from Wink City to NYC Up here in BK. You guys know what time it is, man, we back on a Sunday morning before the games kick off and it usually don't matter anymore until the commanders play. But you know we ain't used to saying that Feels good, definitely got twin back. Everybody wants to play anymore until the Commanders play. But you know we ain't used to saying that Feels good, definitely got Twin back in the building.
Speaker 1:Everybody wants to play Gentlemen.
Speaker 3:We got Twin, we got my man from Dodgeball back in the building.
Speaker 2:Baby, baby.
Speaker 3:Right here, sizzle, we ready to get it off. We got seven, eight topics for y'all today, ladies and gentlemen. So go ahead and get your coffees or your beers, or whatever you want, and sit back and relax, cause we're about to give it to you live.
Speaker 4:All right.
Speaker 2:So baby.
Speaker 4:Cool. But so we're back. Another exciting week of BWO and Chris. I guess I'll start off with local high school scores. Is that what you want me to start off with? Yes, sir, we got shopping kids out. So we will start with um hanley. One over millbrook, decisively, you know, 49 to 27. Uh, we have skyline over brintsville 37 to 22, 37-22. Central over Page County 41-6. Kettle Run over Falk here 62-14. And Sharando had a bye, that's why Sharando's not there.
Speaker 3:Next week is Sharando and Hanley.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:Aren't they both?
Speaker 4:7-1? For all the marbles? Yeah, they're 7-1, 8-1.
Speaker 3:What did Zayden do for Skyline? Do you know?
Speaker 4:He rushed for like 170 yards, something like that, so he had a down week yeah.
Speaker 3:A down week yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I heard him and the running back. They combined for a total of six touchdowns before they took him out.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, that's what. You're talking about, Tristan, and you're talking about Hanley. We're talking about Zayden.
Speaker 2:Oh, y'all was talking about Skyline.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Skyline beat Brentsville.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they had a total of over 500 yards of total offense.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, how many did Zayden have with that 500? Probably 200.
Speaker 3:He had where is he at? He had 170 yards rushing.
Speaker 2:So he had to have 30 receiving that's 200 right there.
Speaker 4:Whatever he had like 170 or something I saw it when I read it. I should have jotted it down, but he had like 170, something like saw it when I read the order. I should have jotted it down, but he had like something like that, I believe you said Central B who? Hold on. I'm sorry I'm shorting me at 191.
Speaker 2:I told you almost 200, almost 200 that doesn't include his receptions yeah congrats to Zayden.
Speaker 4:He said Central B, who who Central B? So yeah.
Speaker 2:Congrats to Zayden. He said Central will be who.
Speaker 4:Central will beat Page County.
Speaker 3:Central's only losses are because they were forfeited.
Speaker 4:No, I'm about to mention that. We'll mention that in a second.
Speaker 2:You've got to run and play a nobody in fall here.
Speaker 3:But if you've got to run, it's undefeated. They smash everybody in the area and the district.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but fall here ain't nothing period.
Speaker 4:Neither is Liberty so I got a few more scores. We don't want to forget James Wood.
Speaker 2:They beat the shit out of Liberty 53-21 like I just said, falk here and Liberty ain't shit.
Speaker 4:Clark County want to get 40-14 over.
Speaker 3:Luray, they're undefeated. Shout out to the Eagles. Berryvilleville, let's go. Baby Millwood, all the people down there in the county.
Speaker 4:So that's for our Virginia score. So going to West Virginia across the state line a hop, skip and a jump away from us. Martinsburg did not play, so, Chris, they had a bye. Spring Mills won 37-0 over Parkinsburg, Musselman lost to Washington 28-21. And Jefferson defeated Clarksburg 47-21.
Speaker 2:Clarksburg, maryland. That's a Maryland team right Clarksburg.
Speaker 4:I don't believe, so I think.
Speaker 2:Clarksburg's in Maryland.
Speaker 4:I believe they're West Virginia. I have to look that up. No, I think it's a Maryland team, right, clarksburg? I don't believe so. I think Clarksburg's in Maryland. I believe they're West Virginia. I have to look that up.
Speaker 2:No, I think it's a Maryland team. It's right by like Brunswick.
Speaker 4:And then Hedgesville lost to Hoover 45 to nothing. So there you go, your local score. So, chris, back to your point, what you were mentioning Central. They appealed, if everybody remembers, but they had like an ineligible student athlete. But they appealed it and won. So now they're 7-2.
Speaker 2:Nice, they gave their four wins forfeits. So that means they're eligible for playoffs.
Speaker 4:So I thought they appealed it.
Speaker 3:Well, they're definitely in the playoffs then, because they're 7-2.
Speaker 4:Exactly. Because I guess they proved he was. You know that kid was legit, yeah. So there you go everybody.
Speaker 1:Strasburg played.
Speaker 4:Oh shoot, I forgot Strasburg, I'm not sure if they played right there.
Speaker 2:I heard you say it's Spring Mills with another undefeated game or shutout.
Speaker 4:Yeah, another shutout.
Speaker 3:They only lost to Martinsburg, and I think that was what 14-12.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you take that 12 with another 7, I think it was they gave another 7 up to another school. They've only given up like 19 points all year, Spring Mills.
Speaker 4:Not a lot of points.
Speaker 2:So big ups to them, man, the defense is grinding out there. I'm not sure who's over there, but big up, you know what I mean, To the defensive coordinator, the players, everybody.
Speaker 4:They've definitely turned it around 19 points in what?
Speaker 2:What is this? The seventh or eighth week? We're going into the ninth week, I believe Ninth week man, 19 points man.
Speaker 3:You guys going to the Hanley-Sharando game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're in the. Is that next week?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's going to be a battle Seven and one. Whoever wins that man? They in the driver's seat.
Speaker 2:Is that's going to be a battle 7-1,. Whoever wins that man, they end the driver's seat. Is it Friday night or Saturday morning?
Speaker 3:It's at Sharando, so it's Friday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm trying to pull up. You got work, Tony.
Speaker 4:When.
Speaker 2:Friday next week.
Speaker 4:I mean maybe Saturday morning.
Speaker 2:We can go to the game. Game will be over way before you got to go to work, so we'll be out there, chris and our fans.
Speaker 4:We don't want to forget Strasburg. They won 28-7 over Madison County. They're 8-1.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Madison County ain't nobody.
Speaker 4:I'm low.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, your voice, oh sorry.
Speaker 4:I think you had your coffee in the way so coffee was in my throat, I guess this guy so there's all our local scores and, like you said wait, wayne, you were saying you had the wrong game. Tristan darling and hassan tristan was seven of 11.
Speaker 3:Baby he a 62-yard bomb to somebody for Hanley. What was his name? Yoder? Yeah, yoder leads the area in receptions or yards.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm. So yeah, they combined for Hassan and Tristan for three touchdowns. So basically Hanley was up like 30. Hassan had four touchdowns. It's a typical Hanley game where they jumped out on them like 35 to nothing. So all the starters were sitting in the second half, yeah they've been playing their middle school team.
Speaker 3:Basically Tylan and them's been playing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, basically they might as well. So, yeah, they do get out the fast starts. The only one they did, you know, was kettle run, but they and I can't wait for that rematch in the playoffs. It'll probably most likely happen.
Speaker 3:They just got to. They got to take care of business against them. Uh, warriors down there in Steven city next week, yeah.
Speaker 4:You're right and I think they will. I don't think it's going to be a close game.
Speaker 3:So who's going to be the player of the year in the area?
Speaker 4:Is it going to be a freshman? That's hard, I mean. Would they give it to a freshman Like?
Speaker 1:you know what I?
Speaker 4:mean the politics part. It's like a freshman QB comes in and lights it up. Or would they give it to Hassan? It's a toss-up because they both carry that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:They carry that all the time.
Speaker 4:Could they give it to both of them? Co-players?
Speaker 3:I don't know, has that ever happened? Freshman, senior co-players of the year from the same school. Mm-hmm co -players of the year from the same school. So to me, I mean and the Northern Virginia Daily Zayden will probably get that one- yeah, because the Northern Virginia Daily does their.
Speaker 4:What's funny is they cover Sharando and Skyline. They don't cover Hanley and give their own player of the year. It's kind of weird, but whatever, I don't know why they cover a lot they feel Winchester has their own paper. Those other towns, don't really have a paper like that yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2:They took the Northern Virginia Daily away right.
Speaker 3:No, they still have that they still have it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's where Zayden and all of them be getting all their love all the time in the Northern Virginia Daily yeah that's the paper I used to always watch man, because when Chester started they used to never have the updated stats but Northern.
Speaker 3:Virginia Daily was on it. So shout out to the MV you know paper that's still out there, because if you want to look at a lot of stats from back in the day, they would have all the stuff You're right and talking about fall care and liberty before we switch to other topics and stuff.
Speaker 3:Talking about fall care and liberty, they might be down now, but there's been times that they've both been good, especially liberty. Liberty used to stop through Hanley for a while and what happened to Loudoun Valley and Loudoun County being in our district? Is it because there's so many schools in that area? Now they've left and went to one of those conferences.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're like in the Dulles District or something I believe is what it's called. They're still our same class, you know, class four, I believe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, only blame in the regions.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so we only meet them. Yeah, like in the playoffs. Typically that's who we lose. It's like Loud Valley or Loud county usually, because they're usually loaded. This usually seems like who we face every time in the first round past it seems like, and we end up losing. They beat the brakes off of us skyline and warren county.
Speaker 3:They're not in hanley's district, no more. Like warren county's not in the district, are they their?
Speaker 4:class, their class three. They're below us.
Speaker 2:Warren County used to always be in our district.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the whole time, but now they have two schools, so they went down to 3A.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're 3 or 4A, but we still play them. And Frederick.
Speaker 3:County is getting another high school.
Speaker 2:Frederick County is yeah, Frederick County is getting another middle, another high school Frederick County.
Speaker 3:Yeah, frederick County is getting another high school, so there will be four high schools now within about five years, whenever they finished that project.
Speaker 4:I've known about. I had the inside scoop on that for years. Anyway, I knew that was coming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because you see, all the kids coming into town.
Speaker 2:That's just crazy.
Speaker 4:I just have certain. I have somebody who told me years ago he's like dude, the new high school was, it's already being taught and it's going to be built over by ammo. But I knew this like three, four years ago. Could you imagine?
Speaker 3:if, when we were kids, and there was only one high school and it was just james wood, like before, we went to high school, though, and it was just james wood. Could you imagine now if there was no Sharando Millbrook and all the kids in that county went to one school? Then they'd be beasts, they'd be super beasts.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we should create a school in Winchester called Northside High and recruit all the Northside kids there you go. Remember Eastside High the movie with Mr Joe Clark.
Speaker 1:Eastside High, oh, and then let's give a shout-out to With Mr Joe.
Speaker 4:Clark he said that's lean on me. Oh, and then let's give a shout out to Cameron Jackson as well. Hall of Fame baby Making the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2:For who Hanley?
Speaker 3:Wolford.
Speaker 2:No, here's the thing, oh, the college he's getting into Wofford, which is a great thing, oh.
Speaker 4:Is it Wofford, he's getting into.
Speaker 3:Wofford already, but he can't get into Hanley yet because you have to have at least 20 years out of school, which is why I was making that comment, how Lang and them got into their college Hall of Fame before they got into Hanley, and I'm like dude, that's crazy. Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2:Big up to my man Sporty his pops.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir, he used to ball out there.
Speaker 4:His pops was a baller. He graduated Getting back to this, you know the 20-year gap. Like Cam just graduated from college. What in 2019? Yeah, 2019. So he, that's five years. You're eligible there. You go To the college. You're Obviously, if you go to college. But high school, you got to wait 20 years. Well, this is Hanley.
Speaker 2:I don't even think there's an eligibility on college. I just think they induct them when they want to, for real.
Speaker 4:I'm sure there's a gap.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 4:They got to wait a certain amount. They all have their little rules.
Speaker 2:A gap. You just said Cam was inducted in five years, Like that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it might be five years for him.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if it was 2007.
Speaker 3:My- only thing is like and we had Annie on the show but we spoke about it before but to have the 20-year wait and you have kids getting in their college Hall of Fames before their high school and like sometimes their parents and stuff won't be the same, won't be around and missing out on this and that for their own kids being into their high school, but they're getting into their colleges before that. It just is a little weird Like shout out to Chad too. Chad got into the Hall of Fame over at Shepherd Chad Moore.
Speaker 4:Oh, Chad Moore. Yeah, that was a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3:I just seen a little throwback on him dropping 47 in a game and I was like sheesh.
Speaker 4:And then one more local.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Meech Tony.
Speaker 4:See, he took the word like I was about to say.
Speaker 3:There you go, shout out to big.
Speaker 4:Meech Against Clemson. They had an exhibition game and he scored 22 points. So against Clemson they had an exhibition game and he scored 22 points. So hey, that's, Meech is doing his thing. That boy works hard.
Speaker 3:He had a game yesterday or whatever. They played Emory and when I tuned in I seen a video of it. He had 28 at that point and he was still balling. Meech is a beast.
Speaker 4:He definitely puts the work in the gym. He lives in the gym, he's doing his thing. He'll go pro.
Speaker 3:I don't know if he'll go to the NBA right away, but he'll definitely go pro, just like Cam overseas.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he'll, definitely that he's going to go, definitely, hey, he makes the NBA. That would be even better. That would be all you know. Playing college ball is a big accomplishment for a lot of people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's nice for them.
Speaker 4:So congrats to all them guys doing their thing.
Speaker 3:When does the girls' high school basketball season start?
Speaker 4:Good question here soon.
Speaker 3:There's winter now, like the guys used to be. We've switched it right and the guys don't start until January, or something like that.
Speaker 4:You're thinking of middle school, where I cut Daniel Morgan, but the boys, the high school, girls and boys are the same time, oh so they're both going to start in a couple weeks.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a couple weeks. I think tryouts is the middle of it, something like that. So, yeah, the girls and boys play at the same time in high school. Middle school it's different because they decided, oh, we don't have officials and the middle school team's got to boot. So we don't freaking play to like late January, early our season starts, which sucks because I can't schedule no West Virginia teams because they already started their season like everybody else.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's different man yeah it sucks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the school-like Hall of Fame. There's no amount of years for college. It says nominees should have proven excellence in their sport and stand out as one of the best in their chosen sport in their participation period. If they do that right off the rip and they get individual honors such as All-American All-Conference, then that era is appropriate for recognition and is important for criteria for consideration directly into the Hall of Fame for that school. So there is no wait in college. If you do something of that excellence, of that criteria of All-American All-Conference or proven excellence in that criteria of All-American All-Conference or proven excellence in that sport as a standout, they could put you automatically in the Hall of Fame for that school.
Speaker 4:Well, good to know. But, Hanley, you got to wait 50 years Exactly.
Speaker 2:Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4:It's instant success, man and excellence.
Speaker 2:You feel what I'm saying, yep, oh, I feel you, if you have a historic season, you're going in. You're going in what I got to wait for, carmelo Syracuse, what we got to wait for. You know, what I mean. Right, and so it's players like that man, the AIs you know what I'm saying, all the one and dones at Kentucky. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:a lot of those dudes are instant hall of fame for the school, though the John Walls, the Marcus Cousins man, kentucky had a lot of them. We can go on and on for days. Anthony Davis's, you know.
Speaker 3:Well, we're talking about schools and staying in the area. I heard about some kind of news happening down there with some principal or something. What was that all about?
Speaker 4:Oh putts, that's what I'm trying to bring up right now, you see.
Speaker 2:Is that the LBGTQ or whatever? Is that? What was going on with that situation? Yeah, does he support that he supports. That Is that why he's got fired.
Speaker 3:He started some Rainbow Coalition class or something Uh-huh, I don't know, tony, tony knows about it. I guess he was trying to help the kids that were getting picked on and bullied and stuff and have them have like a support group right basically that's what it was.
Speaker 4:So, basically for the, what is it? The lgbtq? Yeah, yeah, tq, because it was community in school, so it was basically LGBTQ plus class you try to develop a class for them. What it was? Was he basically like an elective you don't have to take it, it's just there for kids to sign up. You know what I mean? It's your choice, and I think it was after school.
Speaker 2:So what does this class provide?
Speaker 4:Like I said, I think he wanted to do it just for that community day or whatever it's. Just like I've said, they just gather in that room, that's it.
Speaker 2:So basically, a lot of LBgq, lbtq, kids unifying twister you know I'm saying they were, they were basically unifying right to a class like a.
Speaker 3:What it's like a safe space or something.
Speaker 4:I guess like a meeting, like if you're a fucking alcohol you could like all it is. All it was was a class it it was just they called it a flex class.
Speaker 2:What did they?
Speaker 3:do in that class, Tony.
Speaker 2:That's wrong, that he was trying to develop that.
Speaker 4:I don't know what they did.
Speaker 3:I'm saying what did they do in?
Speaker 4:that class, they just gathered.
Speaker 3:They got people upset.
Speaker 4:No, people were upset because they think one guy commented, I guess a father saying like I don't want my daughter or whatever taking that class, like so up and down to him, I guess, Like if they signed up for it, he didn't know.
Speaker 2:No, that's not a problem, because you can sign up for your own electives. Don't sign up for it.
Speaker 4:Well, a lot of times they have to send home.
Speaker 2:Why is that a problem? Because there's kids in there that might want to take that elective.
Speaker 4:But it wasn't, like you know, a class.
Speaker 2:So he should be reinstated then. Basically.
Speaker 4:I see what he was trying to like, but the reason he got in trouble is because they say he never went to the school board to get it approved. Ok, ok.
Speaker 2:Like he did it, but the school board would probably they probably would never approve it.
Speaker 4:that's probably why he took matters into his own hands for real so supposedly I'm thinking he never went to this, you know, went through the proper chain and come in.
Speaker 3:He just did it like, added the not that it matters, but he's probably, you know, he probably feels the same way as those students. So he's like you know what I wish I would have had something like this, let me create this, and he might be gay himself. I have no idea he might be married. I don't like you know what I wish. I would have had something like this, let me create this, and he might be gay himself. I have no idea he might be married, I don't know. But you know what I mean To do that, knowing that they wouldn't approve it. So he's like well, I'm going to just take matters into my own hands.
Speaker 2:He's probably like nah, but at the end of the day, I'm not going to, but I ain't mad at people if they want to do it, like you said, the kids. But I just think that should be kind of like outside school or after school program or something. Why, when some of the laws governmental-wise, they've created laws for that community.
Speaker 3:So why is it a problem to do it in schools? It's the fact that you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:They've passed gay marriages.
Speaker 3:You got certain clubs where you go to meet. But even in class we didn't talk about regular marriage either. We don't talk about all that. We didn't learn about taxes and so many other things. We don't have no understanding of that. They don't teach us that in school.
Speaker 2:Well, because that was the era that we came through, and it wasn't people who came through. They still don't of that. They don't teach us that in school. Well, because that was the era that we came through.
Speaker 3:They still don't teach that, but we still always got to deal with taxes and everything else. But they don't teach kids that stuff.
Speaker 2:All right, chris, yeah, but the gay community now is expanded, so it has to be talked about.
Speaker 4:Well, let me read a part of this article to give you more insight on this. Chris, to answer a couple of your questions you had all right. So it states in the winchester star, and I quote like putt's departure as principal came on the heels of a particular heated frederick county's school board meeting on october 22nd where some parents denounced a flex time offering at frederick county School titled LBGTQ plus kindness and called for his termination. Flextime offers students a list of options on different niche topics, giving them a choice on how to spend the last 25 minutes of their day. It has since been removed from Frederick County's middle school schedule, from Frederick County's middle school schedule. Then it goes on and says it's not clear if Putt's exit is linked to the LGBTQ plus kindness flex time offering. Neither Putt nor the school division have offered a comment, but that's why he got let go.
Speaker 2:He could be promoting it for real.
Speaker 4:So see, like I say, it was something. At the end of the day, I guess he's going to let something to choose, at the end of the day, that sounds like something to choose at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's almost like a promotion. He's promoting that, though, to the kids, so that to me, I understand where the county's coming from. Don't promote it. If it's eligible, okay, sign up for it.
Speaker 4:Don't promote it. If it's eligible, okay, sign up for it. Don't promote it, though, but it's like, okay, if I'm in middle school and you hear there's a lgbt, you know we're in school, sign up for it. Probably not no I'm just so.
Speaker 1:What's the problem?
Speaker 4:you see what I'm saying. Like would you say no, you're gonna do music. What you know, think of all these electives. You're gonna do something else I'm a brother with opinion.
Speaker 2:I love women, so to me.
Speaker 4:I get where Chris is coming from. He believes it shouldn't be in school, but if it's just optional, all right. The gay kids, they're the ones that's going to sign up for it.
Speaker 2:It is optional.
Speaker 4:That's just the way Us three we're not.
Speaker 2:It's optional, but not throughout the day. It's at the end of the day, so it's almost like that's like a promotional stunt. You see what I'm saying. That should be offered throughout the day. Really. It could be your third class, or your fourth period, or your fifth period, but it's your last class and that seems a little odd to me.
Speaker 4:No, I think this is something the county is always like they. They, like I just said it said they signed up. However, kids want to spend the last 25 minutes of their day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we're still promoting it, though. So when I came up, it was adam and eve, not adam and steve, so why are we promoting shit?
Speaker 4:like this, you, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That shouldn't even be an elective for real.
Speaker 4:You don't believe it should be there either.
Speaker 2:Man, we're telling the kids that it's okay. It's really not In my eyes, because that's not how the world was created.
Speaker 4:I'm around middle school kids all the time. These kids know what the hell's going on. Parents would act like my kid doesn't know, shouldn't know, like no, your kid knows. You know what I mean. These kids are young, preteen adults. They know what's going on in the world. You know what I mean. Yeah, we do too, we know. Like I say, I see it as it was a good thing because thing because whatever.
Speaker 4:If they have to get together, talk support like a support group, yeah what? I see nothing wrong with that at all. You know, to me it's parents are getting in their face because you probably afraid your fucking son is gay or daughter and you don't want them to be listen, I'm just a firm believer.
Speaker 2:I'm just a firm believer. People are going to be people. People are going to do what they want to do. If they want to screw animals, they're going to screw animals. If they want to screw a different sex, they're going to screw a different sex. If they want to screw the same sex, they're going to screw the same sex. It's just people's beliefs and choices, so we have no control over that. So, therefore, this will be in our society forever.
Speaker 4:I'll just put it this way I feel sorry if your kid goes off to college, because look at all the shit they offer at colleges. Listen, you go get in your Whatever they select in colleges and all the clubs they have and everything.
Speaker 2:Listen, I ain't no bully or nothing, but none of my kids gonna go that way. I'm gonna tell you that right now I got two kids and neither one of them's like that.
Speaker 4:I've always kept it real. I'm like, hey, if my son's decided, hey, you better go 100%, do it all the way, don't have that. I mean you gotta support they're your kids, you support your kids. I can't see how somebody turns on somebody if they're gay.
Speaker 2:A lot of people say you're boring like that. No, you ain't boring like that, man. It's all about your upbringing. You know, if a lot of kids are around, a lot of women as growing up, guess what? They're going to have that feminine part in their body. You see what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying they have women tendencies and vice versa. If you go around a lot of boys guys.
Speaker 2:Right right.
Speaker 3:They're more likely to be girls. They're more likely to be tomboys Not guaranteed, but that's what they're used to, so they'll be a little rougher. They like sports more than not. And if you're a guy that's around a lot of women. You're going to like more pretty things and things like that. You might want to play with dolls at a younger age and have babies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of girls that are like that.
Speaker 3:They like lipstick and stuff.
Speaker 2:They didn't have the aunts to watch them. They had uncles it's like vice versa, like whoever your parents left you with your uncles or your aunties. That's how you was going to turn out. But I ain't going to lie to you. I was left between a mixture and that was a balance for me. So hold on, I had a pops. I had a mom. A lot of people didn't have both. You see what I'm saying. So whatever you grew up around, that's kind of your tendencies, like Chris said.
Speaker 4:That's a tough one. I believe in the way the environment you're around. Yeah, it plays a part, you know, because you're impressed as a young kid Three foot I can see if these kids were like Devontae Mine's seven.
Speaker 2:But you're not listening In an elementary school, but you're not listening to what I'm saying. You know what I mean. It's like you gotta have that balance, though, if you had a mom and a pop. In an elementary school.
Speaker 3:I a mom and a pop. Yeah, so he sees that he's like yeah, my dad likes my mom, he's supposed to be with a woman, that's what I like. But I don't know, because at a young age, when they're so little, if they automatically like the same sex, that could be difficult too, because they might have a mom and a?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but when school was over, though, in the summertime I don't mean to cut you off, tony, my bad, but when school was over in the summertime, I had a mom and a pop. Who do you think I was around most of the time throughout the summer, my pops. I wasn't hanging with my mom. I love my mom, but if you don't have that father figure throughout the summer, you got women. You got your mom's friends coming over who are women. You know, that's all that you're around, so you get them soft tendencies.
Speaker 4:I know I get the soft tendencies a little bit, but we know so many single moms who are raising strong young men right yeah, because those moms are like typical moms they're mom and pops.
Speaker 3:Trish is a mom and a pop. When there's no dad around, she has to do both.
Speaker 2:Like Trish and Darlene's grandma. That's tough on a woman. She's a mom and a pop, yeah, but I mean she ain't having it.
Speaker 4:There's plenty of examples of women raising young men, so to me that doesn't.
Speaker 2:But some moms make their kids soft Tony.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I totally agree, they baby them so much.
Speaker 2:I get that.
Speaker 4:But does it make them, I guess, say how do you become gay?
Speaker 2:It could lean that way, but some kids cut that off right away. Some kids be like Mom, go ahead, stop. I don't need you to drop me off right away. Some kids be like Mom go ahead, stop, I don't need you to drop me off right up in the front of school. Drop me off over here. Some kids are different, but some kids like that shit.
Speaker 3:They're like yeah, mom is a good boy. But when you're 17, 18, that's a little different.
Speaker 2:It's a little different, it's mad different.
Speaker 3:Then you're about to be into the part where you start working and being around other kinds of people in there and that what they call the real world, the life. So now you know you're gonna have to make all those decisions on your own and you get influenced by so many other people right, and who has that? Influence too, but I don't think school can make somebody feel like they're gay or not.
Speaker 2:They could, depending on what topics that they are offering in class, but none of that was being offered when we were in school, though, and now it's being offered. You know what I mean. We could talk about this for days, though, but we got to move on to the next topic, though.
Speaker 3:So you added LG letter, letter letters, into the school curriculums and stuff. But I have a problem and a feeling, and I don't care if people believe it or not, but I feel like life has changed a lot for young people because they've removed God from all aspects of school.
Speaker 2:Definitely.
Speaker 3:Even for us as a little kid. We might not have even understood it, but it felt like different. When we was little. You said prayers together as kids, Even before basketball games, Wayne, we all had to hold hands and say that prayer. They don't allow any of that in school? No more.
Speaker 2:They say this word is supposed to be Christianity, but they don't preach it.
Speaker 3:But we're not all Christians, not everybody's a Christian, so I understand that aspect of it. I'm just thinking when they removed God. But Tony, here's the thing. Have they removed God from the dollar bills? Nope, you can't have it in school, but it's on all that money, every single day, that everybody has to deal with. God we trust Not everybody believes in god, so why didn't they remove it from the dollar bills?
Speaker 2:they try to make everybody believe in it. That's why it's still on the dollar bill.
Speaker 3:But but the easiest way to do that is to start them at a young age in school. But they've removed it from school and now it seems like kids are just got way more wilder.
Speaker 4:Instead of even thought thinking about god, they're thinking about sexy red but if kids gotten wilder honestly I've talked about to me it's social media is out and that's what intensifies and blows.
Speaker 3:It makes it bigger that's definitely caused because everybody now sees the same stuff all the time and they try to compare and live up to those things it's not just social media, it's just platforms in general.
Speaker 2:Do your platform could be tv? It could be social media but it's changed.
Speaker 3:Definitely, we didn't have social media when we was in school. We're lucky, we didn't have phones with cameras on them. We didn't have phones in our hands. We went at home and you called, called each other. You better go find out where all the bikes are laying at, or something to find them like nowadays everybody. They tell you where they're at every single second.
Speaker 4:I'm here, I'm here, I'm there like to me, like people were still getting, I guess, beat up, like when we grew up. All that stuff happened. People were getting killed, crimes, but it wasn't a click of a phone or somebody pull out a phone and start filming an incident. You see what I'm saying. So everything's so, it's intensified and it's like, oh, they're wild, wilding out now. These kids are great dude.
Speaker 3:It's been going on for decades no, they're being raised by social media. Now, that's the difference. We, our generation, was not raised by social media. We might have been mtv kind of kids and stuff, but we was. We wasn't out there doing that extra stuff because we didn't have everybody and and even on MTV and everything else, they weren't promoting these kind of lifestyles that everybody now wants to be a sane part. And if you see each other, your friends, on social media, and they're not doing that, they'll be like oh.
Speaker 3:And they're going to get talked about and picked on. So it's another way to bully these kids. Like well, you ain't even got no cool jeans on, or no nice sneakers. Facts, sneakers like you gotta live up and the girls gotta be like kim kardashian and shit because they see it. So they get their ass and their lips and everything else down there like well, that's what everybody likes well yeah, chris, you're right, they were promoting shit, but not aspects of other shit I can say this like I said no social media.
Speaker 4:All the girls wanted to be madonna mz like because, because that's what they promoted, because that's what they showed you.
Speaker 2:They were just wearing makeup and wigs people that wanted to be like Dolly Parton and Madonna and all that they promoted. That. That's what you saw on television on a daily basis Dolly, dolly Parton there was a lot of people that wanted to be like Dolly. I'm just thinking it's funny that you said her name, though I'm just saying, because that was a person that was on the television a lot, bro, they put up certain people, man.
Speaker 3:We know that.
Speaker 4:I'm just saying social media.
Speaker 3:Social media has driven everything.
Speaker 4:Yes, I can agree it's made it, but that's my point. It's just been going on, though. It's like when we grew up, it just what we didn't have social media we know we did.
Speaker 2:We did, but it wasn't social media access for the people. Now it's for the people they have.
Speaker 3:Social media has been around their fingers everything they can pick up the phone, like we're on right now, and look at each other yo, what's up? And they can show things. They can do things like there's no privacy, no more, they do everything together. They can see it all. Dude. We used to have to wait till tuesdays and and hopefully had enough money to go buy our favorite album, and if we did, we would buy the single and hope they had more than one song on it. Now, now, before before this music comes out, it's already on their phone.
Speaker 3:They got it. That's why, when people be like Drake sells more than Jay Z or even Michael Jackson or the Beatles, I'm like dude, you can't compare the same. We had to actually go out and buy the actual albums. Now everything is just downloaded on your phone. How can you compare these artists these days to them? It's just totally different. Which is why, when we get into our next topic, to have a little fun, our five favorite basketball players we can't compare people in the 60s and 70s to the guys we grew up on, because we didn't even get to see them play. That's why I love talking to older people. Man. The older people have been there and seen it. They know it.
Speaker 2:True, but get back to the computers and shit. Though. These computers were a device years ago. What we're doing now could have been done years ago, but they wait a certain amount of years to introduce certain shit. It's like a time capsule man. They only produce or introduce shit when they want to.
Speaker 3:It's true. They release it to the public when they're ready, when they feel like they're ready to do it.
Speaker 2:The phone was already invented years ago when Mike Tyson was fighting in like the 90s, bro, People were recording the fight with phones. Man, they say what is that that look like a Samsung Galaxy. I think.
Speaker 3:I think it's even in the 80s, not the 90s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I believe that too, Chris. They already had it bad, they just didn't invent it and show it to the people. It was already created Everything Because it was already in the works.
Speaker 3:They've had electric cars since like the late 1800s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro.
Speaker 3:But they get rid of everything because they want us to have to pay.
Speaker 2:Exactly that's what it's about.
Speaker 3:But now that we got our brother Tony back with another cup of coffee, man, let's dig right into this man Going to have a little fun before we really get these minds working or these people. That's listening to us and we appreciate y'all listening. Man, don't forget to check us out on YouTube. Send us any emails you need to.
Speaker 3:At Brothers With Opinions, make sure you guys check us out on what social media we talking about, right? So we are on facebook and instagram and my man, tony and wayne, both got the tiktok coming soon. It's gonna be cooking with rush, but uh, we'll promote that in a little bit. But, yeah, you guys check us out, man, and give us feedback. Let us know if you want to be on something, you want to hear us talk about something you agree or don't disagree, I mean, or disagree with.
Speaker 3:But uh, that's why we tell you it's just our opinions, man, even though sometimes there are facts being spoken, but right now, this is definitely our opinions and our five goats of the basketball. So it's not our five, so to say, favorite ballplayers, but the people we think are the five goats, and we're going to break it down by position so that we can have it, because you can't really say all Shaq and Wilt compared to, like, steph Curry and Iverson. So we're going to break it down that way and fellas any. Y'all want to start off or y'all want to just start with like point guards, and we each name our one point guard, how y'all want to do it so this is our list we did the other day right.
Speaker 3:This is the one we're talking yeah, that we're talking about our five favorites our five goats at each position, not our favorites.
Speaker 2:So it's just point guard shooting guard, small forward, power forward center, that's it right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because if we wanted to go just positionless, then we could just pick the five players we thought are the five goats.
Speaker 2:We'll let you go first, since you're the only one out of state, and then I'll allow my brother, tony, to go second and I'll go last.
Speaker 3:So I'll start with my point guard and I will still say somebody I grew up trying to play like and you can ask Coach Cooney At a young age. He used to be like man. You got to work on your passing. He was like you're good at it, but he was like you'll be trying some wild passes in these games.
Speaker 2:I already know who you're going to say Magic.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir, yes sir. Mr Irvin Magic Johnson, that's my guy from when I was little, so I used to love him.
Speaker 4:All right, hold up, hold up, hold up. Is this ours? It can be the same.
Speaker 3:I think he's the GOAT. I think he's the greatest point guard ever.
Speaker 4:So we can pick the same people, though, right? That's my question.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I got Magic definitely.
Speaker 4:All right, I wanted to get that clear, because this is going to be different than from the other day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I got Magic.
Speaker 2:So you're next, Tony. Who are you taking with your first pick? It ain't got to be a point guard. It could be any position First.
Speaker 4:Oh Kobe.
Speaker 2:You're taking Kobe Hell, yeah, all right. So right off the rip, you know. You know me coming up through the era. I came through man. I came through the 90s man. So y'all know who I'm going with, number one, right yeah, jeffries.
Speaker 3:Michael Jeffries Jordan.
Speaker 2:I remember a last dude with the last name Jeffries, but he went to Indiana, but that ain't who I'm taking and his first name ain't Jeffrey. Neither he had a son named Jeffrey and he definitely didn't play on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
Speaker 4:And I got my five.
Speaker 2:I don't know who I'm coming with. Give me MJ man.
Speaker 3:I already picked MJ as mine, but you're allowed to pick the same one.
Speaker 2:No, you took Magic first.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's Magic Johnson MJ.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I took the real MJ. You took the MJ Jr Junior Aha.
Speaker 4:So who's it on? Is it back to you, Chris?
Speaker 2:Back to Chris, now we're going.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I picked my point guard.
Speaker 2:You got a.
Speaker 3:PG, so that's off the rip. My two guard is Kobe Bryant. So two Lakers, two players that actually played for the Lakers for their entire career.
Speaker 2:Damn man You're a fan of who New York Knicks. I just had to throw that out there, people. But I love you, though, because he's a fan of basketball.
Speaker 4:Oh, so is it me now.
Speaker 2:It's back on you, Tony so.
Speaker 4:I had Kobe. He's my two. Okay, my point guard, ai Allen Iverson. That's the GOAT from Virginia, baby.
Speaker 2:He's more of a scoring guard and you took who'd you take off the rip Kobe? Yeah, I don't know if it's enough balls for both of them, but it's okay. We're not building a team.
Speaker 3:We're building, building a team. We're building our five goats of each position. A goat of each position.
Speaker 2:I believe it. But if you had to put them on a court together, I don't know how often that's going to work out, but it might work out. Though I ain't going to lie to you, because both of them was kind of you know. They had their unselfish ways, but for the most part they both needed the rock, but you're building a team.
Speaker 3:We're not building teams. And if you think about it, I never understood when people were like it ain't enough balls to go around. Man Wayne, when we was young, when we played AAU, we had all the stars. We ain't worried about the balls. We was like we'll figure that out when we get on the court. But we didn't want to have just two or three good players and we'd be like, yeah, we'll just go down to the civics and get all the players that played on the far right court.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but who's your general though? Chris Moi, magic Johnson, moi, myself. So I knew how to generate the ball around all these special players. It had to go through me.
Speaker 4:We got to pick our team first, then we can debate the team. Let's go.
Speaker 2:Let's go yeah.
Speaker 4:I got my team already.
Speaker 2:So you already took your second player in AI. So I'm going to tell you right now, my point guard is motherfucking the kid son.
Speaker 4:Oh, I like Jason Kidd. Kidd's my point guard.
Speaker 2:Why he's a Jeremy Lin.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, yeah right.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, jk, motherfucking California. Y'all know what he do. So I got JK and MJ already off the rip and Jason Kidd on my pass to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4:All right, chris, kevin Durant, here's your three. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 3:I like it.
Speaker 4:6-11, another DMVmv product well, all right, I got somebody to match up with him larry bird, larry so I got kobe, larry bird and ai right now yeah, french lick you wait you saw me, I'm going center man.
Speaker 2:Gotta have my man Shaq Dizzle. I don't even care if he can't hit a free drizzle, I'm going Shaq in the middle man. I'm going with KG that's my dude right there. That's my guy, Just because you took him. I'm going to try to pick somebody else because that was going to be my power forward.
Speaker 4:Choose a true power forward. No, that's where I would put him my squad.
Speaker 2:Listen if they could play center or power forward please, because now I'm going Magic Johnson. At small forward.
Speaker 4:There you go At small forward.
Speaker 2:No, he got Bird at small forward.
Speaker 4:Yeah, bird Johnson could play center Boy. He could do it all. There you go. So now I got Kobe, larry Magic and AI.
Speaker 2:So I got Jason Kidd, mj and Shaq and I think you picked Sean Bradley. Sean Bradley Cut it out guys. So y'all know to go along with MJ, who my small forward's going to be right.
Speaker 3:Detlef Schrentz. Yeah right, Detlef Shrentz.
Speaker 2:Scottie Pippen. Yeah right, detlef is who he cooked. Koo Coach, koo Coach. Yeah, I mean you could put Koo Coach there if you wanted to, but it ain't. It's my man Pippen, or Scottie Pippen at the small forward. All right, small forward.
Speaker 4:So, chris, chris, wrap yours up, your center, because you haven't picked a set of centers. Yeah, hakeem man, me and him on the same, go ahead, it's me now.
Speaker 3:I got the one. All the big men's and even the guards learn all their footwork and stuff from for the last 15 years Hakeem Olajuwon.
Speaker 4:That's exactly who I had.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm just going to let you all know he wasn't a real center. That's why I left my PF wide open. Akeem really was a power forward for real, for real, and that's who goes in my power forward spot the dream and that's who goes in my power forward. Spot the dream.
Speaker 4:So therefore I got JKid, mj, pip, dream and Shaq. I like it.
Speaker 3:And who are you, Chris? You know who I got. I got.
Speaker 2:Magic, kobe, kd, kg and Hakeem. That's sick too.
Speaker 4:That's fucking sick. We had three out of five of the same players With that Kobe, larry, the Dream Magic and AI.
Speaker 2:Because they were greats. If we got the same player, it's because they were greats.
Speaker 4:Man, I'm smacking everybody with that lineup. Come see me. I don't know man. Man, I'm smacking everybody with that lineup. Come see me.
Speaker 2:I don't know man. The lineup I got is kind of. I got four defensive players of the year in my lineup. Offensive player of the year three of them in my lineup it's tough. Three of them in my lineup, it's tough. Kid MJ Pip Dream Shaq.
Speaker 4:Go on for days with this, but we ain't going to do it. So our top five NBA all time, that was our lineups right there. I like it. I just say my five, smashing any five you put on the court and my sixth man is dead.
Speaker 2:Left shrimp. I like it. Let's move on. Let's move on to the next topic. After that, though.
Speaker 3:Now we're stuck on Earth.
Speaker 4:Let's get it Stuck on Earth. We're stuck on Earth.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't think people have left Earth. I personally don't believe space. Nobody's been to space, nobody's been to the so called moon. I don't believe any of that what's it called? Wayne, you said it's called something, the shield up there that you can't get out of the firmament.
Speaker 3:I've actually never heard this because they don't teach us that kind of stuff in school. They want to tell us about this fake shit in the so-called space and how people's been to the space and been to the moon apparently there's a shield that is around earth and they say your earth is not round. They say earth is really flat okay, so you ever see when they make those globes and people get them for, like the holidays and stuff.
Speaker 3:That's the exact same way earth is no, it's not yeah, you're in a globe, you're stuck like that the globe that they're showing you.
Speaker 2:You see how it's like blue on the bottom and the tops thing in the middle ain't blue. So earth is really water above and beneath you. We're stuck in the middle of water, son.
Speaker 3:I'm talking about the shield that you can't get out of in the globe.
Speaker 2:That's how we're stuck the shield is something that the almighty god put here. He's the one that created this firmament, so people couldn't escape earth. That's just my belief, because I'm a brother with opinion, that created this firmament, so people couldn't escape Earth. That's just my belief, because I'm a brother with opinion.
Speaker 4:You see what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying but from everything that I've read and researched, we're trapped, son, there's no way out. The only way out is Judgment Day, son.
Speaker 4:So I'm looking up this firmament. Pretty interesting stuff, pretty interesting.
Speaker 2:What is it telling you, Tony?
Speaker 4:It's all this old bullshit that Mr.
Speaker 3:Wan, and them lied to us at Hanley.
Speaker 4:Yeah, basically.
Speaker 2:All your history teachers lied to you.
Speaker 3:England, the science teachers and stuff.
Speaker 4:Science. It's still the same concept. You see, the earth is round, still, whatever, and your afterlife still. You go into heaven. There's the heavens, but it does make it seem like a bubble, like you're in hell. You are in a bubble, it's still there.
Speaker 2:But the world itself is not round, though the world itself is flat. So, yeah, it's just a shield above us. It's all around us.
Speaker 3:The shield is all around us. But the land is flat.
Speaker 2:The land is flat itself.
Speaker 3:And pilots know the truth, but they're sworn in to never tell the truth. And tell the people Exactly, man Exactly.
Speaker 1:And that's why people are like oh you flat earthers this and that.
Speaker 3:But the truth is, all those people that say that, just like us, there's just the opinion too they don't know the truth. I'll never be like you round earthers, like I don't care if you believe that that's cool and I believe this like it ain't no big deal. We can agree to disagree.
Speaker 2:But why don't?
Speaker 1:most people need this.
Speaker 3:Most people should dig deeper into their thoughts and their questioning of everything, rather than just believe what we've been told when we already know almost everything we've been told is a lie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but why do they tell planes and jets they can only fly at a certain height?
Speaker 3:Because they don't want them to see more than they're supposed to.
Speaker 2:They can go higher than what they really are, but why do they tell them you can only be this much above elevation.
Speaker 3:Because they don't want them to see more than they're supposed to.
Speaker 2:Exactly More than they want them to see, but some pilots do, though don't want them to see more than they're supposed to, exactly more than they want them to see, but some pilots do, though, don't they?
Speaker 4:a lot of pilots say that they saw certain shit oh yeah, when they get so high yeah but they don't want you to get so high because they don't want you to see other shit so basically, this thing is like what did I say if anybody's ever seen that movie where Jim Carrey like because they don't want you to see other shit. So basically, this thing is like what did I say? A Truman Show. If anybody's ever seen that movie Mm-hmm With Jim Carrey, Like you think we're just test dummies.
Speaker 2:We're all test dummies. We're all test dummies.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:Because we're individuals that were created and brainwashed by the system, so we operate as a rhythm. We're really robots, but we're not. You know what I mean? Yeah, robots do what Repeated things. Right, we do repeated things every day, don't we? At work, at life, at home, you're typically a robot.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Well, to answer your question, you know that we're supposedly in a dome. Wayne and Chris, your theory, your firmament thing. It says the concept of the firmament was used in classical, medieval models of heavenly spheres, but was eventually dropped in the 16th and 17th centuries of astronomy advanced. There is no evidence that the Earth is covered by a dome or firmament. Spacecraft have not encountered any dome when entering or leaving Earth's atmosphere.
Speaker 2:So how is that true, though? Because every attempt that we've had to go to moon or mars, it hadn't been successful, has it? So everything I'm trying to look, they had those commercials back in the day of a motherfucker walking on on mars I can't find anything right now. And then they had like flags blowing in the commercial and show oh yeah, well hey, I'm with you.
Speaker 4:I don't believe we've ever been to the movie, because to me it was a Hollywood thing.
Speaker 2:What was it? A tornado or a hurricane going when they landed?
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying.
Speaker 4:We've had this discussion before. I'm with you. I think it was all staged.
Speaker 2:All that staged the dude that was actually One of the dudes that was actually in that commercial. He came to life on social media and said that it was fake. He said we never did that. He said it was just all the digital image. He came up one of the old men came up and said that man, he said we never did that. It was all fake, bro, yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm with you.
Speaker 2:Because you can't get outside of Earth.
Speaker 4:I'm with you.
Speaker 2:Why some nights, you see stars in the sky. Why some days, you see clouds in the sky and you don't see none? It's all digital images, man, it is an interesting way to look at it. You can make anything digital, right? Yeah, the shit that Chris got on his ceiling in the background could be digital right now. When you watch a basketball game, do you think everything on that court is really on that court?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the breast cancer awareness signs and the logo for the company who provided for the court. A lot of that shit is digital. It's digital images. You could make something appear that's really not there, right.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You agree, Chris?
Speaker 3:All we are is just a figment of your imagination.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's all it is, man.
Speaker 4:So do you believe there's a heaven and hell?
Speaker 2:A heaven and hell.
Speaker 3:I believe we'll find out when we die.
Speaker 2:I believe in heavily hell ham. I don't believe in none of that.
Speaker 4:Heavenly hell ham.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can show you how motherfucking this ham is from heaven. But when you taste this, none of that Heavenly hell, hell. Yeah, I can show you how motherfucking this ham is from heaven, but it when you taste this motherfucker, it be fire like from hell. I'm just saying, but nah, hey, man, cut it out.
Speaker 4:Cut it out.
Speaker 2:Cut it out. You need to cut it.
Speaker 4:So this whole firmament and bubble thing, I mean I guess it's kind of interesting. You can see us. You know people can imagine it living in a bubble. I mean I've never, I've only been in a plane. I've only been so high in a plane. My dad, my dad has said he's been so high in a plane when he was in the's been so high in a plane when he was in the Air Force. He saw outer space Like he was so high.
Speaker 3:Well, I tell you right, now, he was high himself yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you right now the only few times. I flew in a plane and I was up high enough with the clouds. Clouds didn't even seem real to me, man. I think it's just all the image, bro. There wasn't nothing special about them. Listen, when we was flying through the motherfuckers, I could still see shit. If you go through a cloud, it should make your vision blurry, right? Everything in front of you should be blocked out until you get through that cloud, right?
Speaker 3:It should cloud your judgment, Nah it clouds your judgment.
Speaker 2:I like it, man. I don't believe it. I think the cloud is. I don't believe it, man. Right, I think the cloud is what A cloud is a cloud, son you come through your vision should be impaired son.
Speaker 4:You have rain clouds. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:My shit wasn't impaired. I don't know about the pilot, though. When I was looking out the window, look, I could still see everything Flatland trees, motherfucking little-ass cars and little-ass people, because I'm high up in the air. I don't know, listen, you can still see shit, man. That shit is fake man. Just my opinion, coming from a brother, we're just in a movie.
Speaker 3:So if space doesn't really exist the way we've been taught, then what's this thing about a meteor approaching Earth?
Speaker 4:Where is that coming from.
Speaker 2:And where do the meteors come from outer space?
Speaker 4:the meteor comes from the water outside of the water hold on, so I'm confused outside of the water it's got to be outside of water, because I just told you guys because I told you, we're trapped in water, man.
Speaker 2:Water's above you, water's beneath you.
Speaker 4:Ah gosh. So you're saying we're in the middle of water.
Speaker 2:We're in the middle of water, so something outside of water has got to be targeting this, that has got to be more powerful than the water Gosh and it's the meteor. That's the only thing that I can come up with theory-wise.
Speaker 4:So it's coming from the center of the earth.
Speaker 2:You can say I'm smoking shit. You can say I'm on some shit, but it's just my thought.
Speaker 4:So it's coming from the center of the earth.
Speaker 2:It's definitely coming from a center point. Okay, because it's hitting directly on us.
Speaker 4:What's your thoughts?
Speaker 2:Chris, it ain't coming from the goddamn sky or nothing, it's coming directly at you.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, obviously it's coming directly somewhere, but from what? So I'm asking you, like it's coming from the center of the Earth?
Speaker 3:I've never seen a meteor man, so I don't know if they're real.
Speaker 4:So basically inside out is how it works. Coming from the inside out, I guess, if that makes sense, something bro I'm trying to figure this out.
Speaker 2:We were not living for a meteor, but they. But now they're trying to say a meteor has hit it our way and we've never experienced it. They only come so many amount of years, according to the Bible.
Speaker 4:They've had like asteroid threat or whatever right before. So this isn't the first time when they've said something's been heading towards the earth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was just like they've said it. It was just a threat. We never experienced any of it, but people say people say, back in the day people went through it. That's why the books are written about the shit. You see what I'm saying. It's happening.
Speaker 3:Y'all's favorite game coming up was when I used to see y'all over at the arcade. Y'all was always playing Asteroid.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm telling you bro.
Speaker 4:Nothing wrong with Asteroid. That was a great day.
Speaker 2:But where is it coming from if we don't have an outer space bro? That's it they try to say we're in a bubble. They try to say we're in a bubble, but how do we get the meteors from outer space if we're trapped in a bubble? Something ain't adding up.
Speaker 4:What's man-made, then, is what you're saying. Is it man-made? That's what I meant. Yeah, so it's man-made, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2:Possibly. Because they have the technology to do shit like that.
Speaker 4:But do we really know?
Speaker 2:What do you think, Chris?
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I've never seen any of it, so I don't really know if it exists.
Speaker 3:I just know man's never been the moon and the Earth is flat. The land of the Earth is flat. I'm not saying it's not a round thing like a globe but the actual land is flat, it has mountains and this and that, of course, but it's not a round thing. People are like oh, because of gravity, so the earth is like turning, and so the other side of the earth means that that part of the world is upside down right now. And I don't believe that.
Speaker 2:That's what they're trying to tell us.
Speaker 3:They tell me that like so, when you fly, you're flying around the Earth, and I don't believe that. And they're like well then, that means India and Pakistan and Japan and the parts that are on the other side of the world from us. Supposedly they're upside down and the Earth keeps going like this and then eventually we're going like that. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2:I don't think nothing's rotating bro.
Speaker 4:Dude, you're like with Kyrie Irving you believe the earth is flat. Yeah, and one thing great about Kyrie.
Speaker 3:He gets hated on for speaking his mind, but it's because he thinks outside the box and you were supposed to question everything we've been taught.
Speaker 2:But just like we're about to get into, about the time and shit, bro, it's all fucking made up.
Speaker 3:Did you guys get an extra hour of sleep? Did the clocks change? What did you guys get an extra hour of sleep? Did the clocks change what I get extra? Tell us that they just was like oh, it's just so. That means today there's actually 25 hours.
Speaker 2:Then man cut the shit. I get an extra hour every day but you're not.
Speaker 3:You're not listening. If today, if there's always 24 hours in the day, but the clocks went back at 2 am to 1, that means there's 25 hours on this exact day exactly, son, and now they push time off for the rest of the day, so everything is going to be thrown off, and they do that on purpose. Why is there a need to change it? And then, six months from now, in March, they're going to be like let's bring forward back to the time. It just was Like what's the purpose of?
Speaker 4:it so that it can be darker and lighter and this and that.
Speaker 3:That's stupid, chris the only reason for time change is because of farmers that's why they did it. And there's no need for them to do it anymore because all the farmers, their stuff is being stolen and I think we're things being put with pesticides and this and that they're trying to kill us, but not the farmers, but the people. Like bill gates is buying up all the farmland to kill us and they're creating lettuce and chicken and these little fucking plants.
Speaker 4:Everything is man-made. There's no reason to change the time back and forward at all, and that's the only reason. The only reason is because of farmers, because the animals get you know whatever for farming.
Speaker 2:They can farm all day and all night.
Speaker 4:Exactly.
Speaker 2:So basically, with that being said, you're telling me that the sun and the moon Exactly. So, basically, with that being said, you're telling me that the sun and the moon is fake.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so that's why they did the whole time forward and back shit they try to say it gets dark when the sun starts setting. But I think we're only the only country that actually does that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know a lot of people in other countries. They're like what we don't change the time? Yeah, they don. A lot of people in other countries. They're like what we don't change the time? Yeah, they don't. We're the only ones who, yeah, because this country is a bunch of bullshit. I'm going to be honest and people are like oh, you should move out. Then what do you mean? We were all brought here against our will, or not us, but our ancestors, no matter where we news is the truth? It's not there's truth. There's lies to a lot of it.
Speaker 3:like get out of here I'll tell you right now if you got to work that's country, it's a business, it's a, it's a corporation and we, we do not get to live the way a lot of other countries do. Yes, we can go outside and do what we want for the most part, but, trust me, we're trapped into the system that they love and they play a game with us. It all goes together. Time is basically fate, what you, fellas, think.
Speaker 2:Man. I agree with you, man, because I'll tell you right now. You can get off work, go home, sit on your porch and watch the sun, and they say the sun is going to motherfucking set. But when you're watching the sun, that motherfucker don't look like it's moving at all, does it? But somehow some way it removes itself from the sky. I've never seen a motherfucker.
Speaker 3:Because they're saying it's going around the earth.
Speaker 2:I've never seen a motherfucker dropping, moving side to side, nothing. It just disappears. Son, how does it just disappear? Somebody explain it to me.
Speaker 3:Because they're saying the sun is rotating around the earth. And then what does it just disappear. Somebody explain it to me. They're saying the sun is rotating around the earth.
Speaker 2:And then, what does it do? Hide itself.
Speaker 3:Well, it's on the other part of earth.
Speaker 2:It just tells itself to stop.
Speaker 3:It's on the other part of the earth, and it'll see you back at the same time tomorrow.
Speaker 2:But y'all just told me that earth is flat, so how are we rotating?
Speaker 3:We're not rotating the sun is rotating around the earth.
Speaker 2:I don't believe in no sun though, yeah, you don't have to.
Speaker 3:That's why we all have our opinion. I'm just saying that's what people are going to tell you that it's rotating around the earth.
Speaker 2:That's why we're still here, and the earth is flat.
Speaker 3:The earth is flat.
Speaker 2:Is it a light bulb outside of the firmament that tells us when it's night and day?
Speaker 3:I wouldn't say it's a light bulb, but it's something. Yes, they say it's a ball of fire and it's really the biggest star in the galaxy. That's what they say.
Speaker 2:It's got to be a ball of fire, because sometimes when you look at it it's hard to look directly at it. It's got to be a great wall of fire. Do you feel me A great ball of fire, son? But you know, this is what we do BWO, shooting you with those opinions.
Speaker 4:Well, well, I was going to give you our little facts, since we're talking daylight savings time. Europe recognizes most European countries practice daylight saving time, with the exceptions of Armenia and Georgia, iceland, russia, russia and Turkey. North America recognizes it, except for Hawaii, arizona, america, samoa, guam, the Northern Virgin Islands, puerto Rico Virgin Islands. They don't recognize it at all In Africa, egypt is the only country that recognizes daylight savings time.
Speaker 3:So there you go, there's a few fun facts All countries ruled by white people.
Speaker 4:Good point.
Speaker 3:Being honest, being honest.
Speaker 2:And how'd you say, hawaii's not.
Speaker 3:That's part of the United States and where are they so far? And how'd you say Hawaii's not, that's part of the United States.
Speaker 2:And where are they located? On.
Speaker 3:And you said Arizona doesn't.
Speaker 4:No, I found that out years ago, that Arizona, the whole state of Arizona, they don't set their clocks. And if you live in Arizona, which is whatever, because you're in a certain time zone, if you live in Arizona, which is whatever because you're in a certain time zone, yeah, but the rest of the country that goes up and down.
Speaker 3:That part, besides Arizona, switch their time. So if you drive down, instead of east and west you drive north and south, so the time changes. When you get to Arizona it's an hour behind or something that's crazy, but you'd be in the exact same time zone.
Speaker 3:Yep, that's wild Because really time is a lot. That's how we're proving it right now. Time is a lot and they just do that so we can live on these systems Get up, go to work, go to church, go to school but it's about time frames, time frames, so they're using that on us. The same thing is like we're 50 years old, really years old. You've just continued to live through life, but they put these time frames and these dates and this stuff on it, which is why we talked about the calendar before and how it should be 28 days in all, 13 months, instead of whatever they have. So you know how the time changes, fellas. What y'all think about? That leap year every four years? Like what the hell is that? Oh yeah, where did they come up with? We got a leap year every four years and if you're born on that day, you only got one birthday every four years. Like what the hell is that?
Speaker 4:yeah, a leap year. That that is wild. Where does that come from? I have no idea, but the teachers told us in school yeah, that's something good, yeah, to look into, but yeah, that's, that's wild a year. I always thought that was so weird, because what you get an extra day of February, yeah, it's February 29th.
Speaker 2:29th but you said Arizona, with the daylight savings, though. And where is Antarctica located? It's off the southern border right.
Speaker 3:Antarctica.
Speaker 4:Antarctica.
Speaker 3:Antarctica is an entire continent of ice below South America.
Speaker 2:South America.
Speaker 4:Okay, south.
Speaker 2:America off the southern border of America, south America, the southern border of America, bro, which is located where Mexico and Arizona is located. It's southern of those, of course, but South America is even way more further south than that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, antarctica is way below that.
Speaker 4:So what's that have to do with Arizona?
Speaker 2:It's got to do something with that daylight savings.
Speaker 4:You think?
Speaker 2:I believe so. Antarctica is somewhere where they don't want nobody to go right. So what's really going on in Antarctica is the question.
Speaker 4:Hell, if I know.
Speaker 2:Could that be the resolution of evolution?
Speaker 4:I'm lost on this one, Chris.
Speaker 2:What's going on over there, though Really Nobody has physically said they've been there.
Speaker 4:What Antarctica?
Speaker 2:They claim that they've traveled there. They're supposedly exploring, but there's really no real photos, though, right Of anything right From over there right. What have you seen? What have you seen? They don't even want people approaching that location. Why Is it dangerous?
Speaker 4:Is it something that they're hiding. It's extremely cold.
Speaker 2:It's extremely cold, but you could adapt yourself to that cold, though there's ways around that. How cold really is it? Who's been there?
Speaker 3:You're never going to know somebody that's been there.
Speaker 2:Exactly Because nobody can really physically go there. I think people have physically been there, but it's higher elite people, because they want to discover.
Speaker 3:But there's like 12 to 13 continents on the other side of it. That's why we're not allowed to go over there, Because that's thousands and thousands or whatever years of civilization they've had and they're way more advanced than the people that live on these seven continents they gave us, because we're just a game team and we're in the mix. I don't know how we got to Antarctica.
Speaker 2:Tony just Googled some bullshit. I don't believe it, but go ahead and tell them, Cody.
Speaker 4:I don't know how the hell Antarctica ties with Arizona. Maybe it's just because it's two A's.
Speaker 2:But anyway the population.
Speaker 4:There's a population of a thousand people, it estimates, during the winter and then up to 5,000 in the summertime in Antarctica. What the fuck are they doing down there?
Speaker 2:Man, I told you, Off the southern part of America, Off the southern part of America, off the southern part of America, where it's hot during the summer. They get more people during the summer. What you just said right 5,000 during the summer, right 5,000. It's hot. Antarctica is probably cold. Man, don't nobody go to Antarctica, man, stop the bullshit, man.
Speaker 4:So are these images.
Speaker 2:Anybody that's been to Antarctica?
Speaker 4:I bet you that's in Utah or somewhere.
Speaker 2:Bro, do you know anybody that's been there?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 3:In National Geographic magazines.
Speaker 2:They say it, but do they physically show us? They're never going to show us certain stuff they don't want us to know. Yeah, man, I want to see it. If you've been there, I want to see it. People take pictures, right? Does your phone not work when you get into antarctica? Is the service out of reach?
Speaker 3:I don't know, they probably don't have horizon and t-mobile down there exactly.
Speaker 2:That's why photos, but you can still film on your camera, isn't it? I don't know, they probably don't have Verizon and T-Mobile down there Exactly.
Speaker 4:That's why, photos are never good, but you can still film on your camera.
Speaker 2:I don't think so. I don't think you have no service out there. I think, once you go beyond a certain point, there's no service.
Speaker 4:I have no service down I-66.
Speaker 2:You feel me, you feel me.
Speaker 4:I lose service.
Speaker 2:Oh, he just hit the likes and the smileys. I love it. Give us some more. I like my followers. Give me some more smiley faces. Getting these followers going out here, man, we're popping bottles and everything.
Speaker 4:Hey, fellas, we'll wrap this up. I think the well is running dry on these topics here and we've spoke on them, so we gave you our local news. Our five goats of all time, which my team will smack anybody's team, talked evolution and a bubble we live in, so it was good shit, guys. I mean, we can go on for days, for days We've been doing his picks for this week, for this Sunday, like I always said, he's 99.9% correct.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was 90% last week. I lost one man Only game I lost last week was Cincinnati. I took over the Eagles.
Speaker 3:We haven't played the Eagles yet. Man, they're nice. They got a lot of talent.
Speaker 2:They're super nice man, that's right.
Speaker 3:Y'all haven't played, y'all yet either.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there's a lot of. We haven't played All three of us, all those teams played the Giants. That's it Right we?
Speaker 3:played them again today.
Speaker 2:Hey, with all that being said, I'm going to start out with I like the Eagles over the Jaguars this week. Yeah, I like that one. I like the Commanders over New York.
Speaker 3:Giants Love that one.
Speaker 2:I like Minnesota over the Colts Yep.
Speaker 3:They got Flacco going today over there.
Speaker 2:That's right, one of the Kansas City ones. But I think the Minnesota D is a little too tough for Flacco to prevail in a win. That's why I like Minnesota over the Colts. I like Kansas City over Tampa Bay, because Kansas City just finds ways to win man.
Speaker 3:And that's Monday night game against the Bucs yeah.
Speaker 2:I definitely like the Saints over Carolina, even though they only have Kamara, but Kamara's going to have a fucking beast-ass day. I like the Ravens in a shootout with the Denver Broncos. I like the Ravens 28-25 over the Broncos today, and I like Cincinnati over Raiders, obviously, and Buffalo over Miami.
Speaker 3:Over the Dolphins.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I believe, a big game from Tyreek Hill and Tua, but it's not enough to sustain what Josh Allen does with the Buffalo offense. He runs in for a touchdown and throws for three. That's my picks for the week.
Speaker 4:I like it. I like it.
Speaker 3:Who's Dallas play?
Speaker 2:So right now I'm telling you, josh Allen, a fan, do a bet. You better take him for a total of four touchdowns a day. If you take that today four total touchdowns from Josh Allen it'll pay you out big.
Speaker 4:Touchdown. Okay, I got it. That's three pass and one rushing.
Speaker 2:Listen, if you don't hit, just talk to me. Don't come see me, just talk to me.
Speaker 4:Alright. Well, there's Wayne's picks for the week. So everybody put their bets down and if he wins money or you win money, you got to donate to the show BWO at least $2 or something.
Speaker 2:You ain't got to donate nothing. If you hit, shout us out, come to our platform, let us know you hit and we'll give you more picks for the future. I don't ever come up over nobody's hits. I don't want nothing from you. I just give you advice and knowledge, that's all all right, sounds good.
Speaker 4:All right, fellas. Well, until next week. Uh, you know, everybody have fun to join themselves, enjoy football today and, like me and Kristen said, hit us up on Facebook, brothers with opinions. We're on Instagram, tiktok, hit us up if you want to be a guest and we'll be welcome. You know, we just welcome you on and speak your opinion alright, everybody, big voice, no silence.
Speaker 1:Revolution televised ain't no good. In private, speak your opinion, all right, everybody, but then you must comprehend. Preach B-W-O, let your voices be heard. We enlightened by the truth, and now we spreading the word. How do we learn to live when we, conditioned to die? Most people fail before they start Because they don't ever try. Man, they told us we was worthless. We believed in the lie. We took it way too literal when big said ready to die? You know, the KKK Turned the cops in disguise man. A lot done changed, but race still applies. Outro Music.
