Brothers with Opinions -B.W.O.
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Brothers with Opinions -B.W.O.
Unveiling the Hidden Power Structures of the Music Industry: From Local Sports Triumphs to Celebrity Scandals and Conspiracies
Does P Diddy hold the keys to a hidden power structure in the entertainment industry? Join us as we return from a brief hiatus, minus our brother Zeb, and jump into a whirlwind of local sports triumphs and celebrity controversies. We kick things off with an electrifying recap of Hanley High School’s record-breaking football victory, spotlighting star players Gavin Williams and freshman quarterback Triston Darling. But the question lingers—can their running game withstand tougher opponents? We also shine a light on nearby teams like Millbrook and Sherando, dissecting what it takes to carve a path to playoff glory with a well-rounded strategy.
Shifting gears, we unravel the sensational and often murky scandals engulfing the celebrity world. The spotlight is on P Diddy amidst swirling allegations and recent property raids that hint at something more sinister. We share our thoughts on the possible motivations behind these media narratives and the historical patterns of downfall among successful black entertainers such as Bill Cosby, Prince, and Michael Jackson. The conversation heats up as we explore the shadowy corners of the music industry, drawing parallels with notorious cases like Jeffrey Epstein's. Is there a hidden network shielding the powerful, and what role do wealth and influence play?
Finally, we dissect the intricate power dynamics shaping the music industry’s titans like P Diddy and Jay-Z, questioning the tragic ends of artists tied to Diddy’s legacy. Could their success stories be masking deeper rivalries and struggles? We delve into their political ambitions and the costs of their influential positions, touching on the suspicious circumstances surrounding celebrity deaths, such as DMX and Whitney Houston. We also muse over the silence from figures like Jay-Z and Beyoncé when controversies arise. Buckle up as we expose the complex tapestry of power, control, and secrecy that dominates the celebrity landscape and challenges the narratives we’re fed.
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Speaker 2:Gotta shine a light on poverty and fight against injustice and always speak the truth when the enemy's amongst us. All right, ladies and gents, welcome back. Unfortunately it's been a long time since we've been here, but you know we all got things to do and handle in life. Excited to announce that BWO Brothers With Oil oh my bad, that's Brothers With Opinions we are back and we are going to be live after this week. We just got some fine tuning to do and our brother Zev unfortunately has to work this weekend, so he's not with us. And our brother Zev unfortunately has to work this weekend, so he's not with us. But you can believe he's over there producing that baby oil by the bottle nonstop over at the factory downtown Winchester, wherever he's at, with my brother Marcel. Shout out to Selly yeah, so we're back. Excited that my brother Wayne Rush, mr Twin, is back in the building, tony the director what's up?
Speaker 2:Created this whole podcast. He's back. What's up? Created this whole podcast? He's back and we're going to get into it right away with some local news and some local sports, like we used to do, and then we'll go ahead and slide off into the baby oil topic that the whole world seems to be amused about right now. So, Tony, go ahead and get us into that local news, brother.
Speaker 4:Okay, so locally, let's go with football first, because it's football season, right, it's fall, it's not basketball season. So Hanley destroyed James Wood 57-16, which was a record between that series between them. What most points scored between those two. So Hanley demolished him. Shout out to Gavinavin williams, because he had a 101 yard interception. Return for a td it says 99 on.
Speaker 2:It says not in that. But you know they always fidget with some things. I wasn't there to see it. I'll definitely tune in to our brothers duane and big mike's podcast to get more on that, but yeah, it's 100 yards about yeah, it was definitely at least 100.
Speaker 4:I have to see the real, but he looked like he picked it off and is so. But I mean, hey, that was a hell of a play and what you know. 100, 101, whatever. And then what? Tristan darling did his thing. The freshman qb what two russian touchdowns he had like 180 yards rushing again.
Speaker 2:Yep, and that's not the QB quarterback freshman. He's a freshman sensation Hassan.
Speaker 4:Oh, I'm saying that right. I had 117 yards, I think, to be exact rushing, so their offense is explosive. I mean, it was James. James would give him a game. They got up what? 10-6, something like that at the end of the first, and then Hanley just exploded. I think they scored three touchdowns in three minutes before the end of the half.
Speaker 2:I would like to know what we're going to do when teams force us to pass, because we only threw four passes.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm, that's very yeah, yeah, we don't, we don't.
Speaker 2:We got a lot of athletes and we can run the ball like crazy, but what are we going to do if teams start to force us to pass?
Speaker 3:very true and he's got to find a balanced playbook. Man, you can't just be one-dimensional I mean the run works.
Speaker 4:The run works, I mean once they started running, they had over 40 yards rushing yesterday and they barely run the ball like asan and jamal.
Speaker 3:Only run the ball 10 to 12 times, but they just dominate like you said, though like what if you run into a team that the number one run stopper in the region or the area? What are you going to do so?
Speaker 4:well, that's what everybody talks about in our area. It's like once we get to the playoffs, you know, when we play the Loudon Valley, you know, and Kettle runs, you know they're passing teams. It's like that's our downfall is we got to be able to pass because we can't run all over everybody, Because you get into the playoffs you know this, Wayne, and it doesn't get any easier you got to be able to throw the ball.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and from week to week in practice. They need to be opening up that playbook, but I will say one thing to the rest of the area.
Speaker 2:Tristan just went to ninth grade. He hasn't even been in Hanley for a month. So you guys, good luck for four years coming.
Speaker 4:Oh, he's the truth. He is the truth. I'll tell you that. Definitely a freakish athlete.
Speaker 2:What happened with Millbrook, sherando, clark County, any?
Speaker 4:scores from those schools. Millbrook I'm looking right now. Millbrook oh, they lost the skyline. Was that the week before? They haven't played yet, have they? Or did they play last?
Speaker 3:night. They must have had a bye week because I think that was the the week before. They haven't played yet, have they? Or did they play last night? They must have had a bye week because I think that was the previous week.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was the pre-. I don't think Milford prayed, but who? It's on the tip of my tongue Sarando destroyed, damn. And who'd they play? Because Sarando, to me, is another thing to watch out for you don't have the scores right there, mm-mm. But you know, sharando should be a team to reckon with, you know, because they're putting up points.
Speaker 2:You know, so I can't lie. Sharando is, like, almost always good. We have their coach, which is made me think about it, but Sharando just seems to keep going.
Speaker 4:You're right. Well, it's just good, I guess they come up good coaches, whatever they do their thing.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's a larger area too. There's more kids to choose from, so it's easier for them to rebuild than an actual team like Hanley, who only has one high school in the city to rebuild than an actual team like Hanley who only has one high school in the city. So depending on population, that can determine how fast you can rebuild. Like a lot of these kids are coming up, they might not be playing football, they might be basketball players or they could be baseball players.
Speaker 2:But those schools also aren't blessed with a lot of talent, like the freshman sensation Tristan, like we just keep producing people like that in our area and in Winchester limits, so we get blessed with that way Sharando beat Liberty 58-7.
Speaker 4:Goodness.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but the question is is Liberty any good though? What is their?
Speaker 4:record they're 0-5.
Speaker 3:Exactly so. I mean big up to Sharando for winning.
Speaker 2:But you know, we'll find out when they play. What about Clark County, skyline, Warren County and Martinsburg? Martinsburg won against Jefferson right. Yes, close first half, and then I think they blew them out second half.
Speaker 4:Dude, I'm telling you right now, spring Mills must be the truth. They're five and oh and they're dominating. They've scored two almost like 270 point off it, something like that and gave up not donuts. They even gave up no points. When do they play martinsburg?
Speaker 2:uh, that next month, I believe you guys should go to that game. That must be the game of the year in that area. Oh, it will be.
Speaker 4:But Jed Spring Mills is killing people, killing people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I saw that they're 5-0 and they are dominating.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're averaging like 40, 50 points a game and they haven't gave up one point yet.
Speaker 2:So that'll be a test to see, because I always say why is Hanley always scared to play Martinsburg? But let's see what happens with that Spring Mills. If they're legit, they might not beat Martinsburg, but they shouldn't get blown out, they should hang with them.
Speaker 4:Who Hanley.
Speaker 2:Spring Mills and Millburg game.
Speaker 4:Gotcha yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, Hanley's got to stop being scared and start putting teams like that back on their schedule.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, martinsburg, yeah, I know. Well, I mean I can say they, you know we play in Musselman. It's a start. They played Musselman the last two years.
Speaker 2:But even Martinsburg doesn't even play Musselman no, because they're like they're scrubs compared to Martinsburg. I'm not hating on the Musselman and Martinsburg play, don't they? They don't play this year, no, they crush that school every time. So they're like that ain't no big competition yeah, it's a waste of Martinsburg's time, man well, I mean, they played what Jefferson?
Speaker 4:and I think they played Hedgesville. You know those schools, other ones around, but I guess maybe yeah, but look where Musselman is.
Speaker 2:I thought Martinsburg and Musselman played every year. Isn't Musselman at.
Speaker 3:Inwood. It's located at Inwood yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's like the reason Haley doesn't even play Berryville and Clark County.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 2:Inwood's so small compared to Martinsburg. You know what I mean. Yeah, martinsburg might be bigger than Winchester winchester. So they they got a legit powerhouse over there and they produce multiple college and professional athletes. But yeah, shout out to martinsburg for being dominant over the last what 40, 50 years in our area oh yeah, that seems what like the what they're trying to do with spring mills.
Speaker 3:They're trying to put spring mills on the map out there and that's also pretty much martinsburg, so that has two schools crushing right now exactly so you got to think about it, like some kids that probably think that they're not going to start at martinsburg might be going to spring mills. You know what I mean. So that's why they have two good schools out there in that area man, well, they're both five.
Speaker 2:And oh, I can guarantee you one thing if you put another high school in winchester this year and split that team up, we would not both be five. And oh, we're're not even 5-0 right now.
Speaker 3:No, I think both. If there was two high schools in the city of Winchester, they would probably both be struggling because you'll have to split the kids up. You know what I mean. So, like you just said, one team might be dominant at a certain position but lacking in others. So it'd be kind of hard to do that in the city of Winchester. So I think they should just leave it as one high school in the city of Winchester.
Speaker 4:Well, I guess, as long as they can.
Speaker 2:They're never going to change that because Hanley's still prestigious and shit. But if y'all know the truth, Hanley was called Winchester High School before Hanley was ever there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 2:I would have loved to go to a school called Winchester High, hanley's dope dope, but we don't even know who john hanley is. We're not going to get in all that, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:He never even lived in winchester, but winchester high would have been dope. I mean to get all that information. All you got to do is just contact the local historian. I think she lives right across from the old frederick douglas school on north kent yeah, I'm just saying they're never going to have another school in winchester. They don't want it to be no, I don't ever see it happening they won't even build another middle school.
Speaker 2:They just added daniel morgan and put like two schools in one well, they call that a campus. Now, it's not even a school, wow but, yeah, yeah, we're we're rambling, but you know that we're brothers with opinions. That's what we do, man. But we just wanted to bring up a little bit of local stuff. You have have anything on Clark County, warren County or Skyline.
Speaker 4:No, I'll look it up. But, skyline, we'll find out who they played. That's how you know it's 2024.
Speaker 2:We don't got papers and stuff in front of us. We got to look it up. That's it. That's all you have to do man. They would have had the newspapers all laid out with the sports section Like, right, here you go, let's go, let's go down to box scores.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but originally for our audience. This wasn't originally a part of our show. We just try to shout out the local schools for all the hard work that they're doing and, you know, just keep up the good work. That's all schools in our area.
Speaker 2:Because if you really want sports in depth, for the local area I'm going to say it again Shout out to Dwayne Clark and Mike Doman, two big legends over there from Clark County. Man, they got a good little podcast going on called the Ugly Sports Podcast or whatever Ugly Truth, but they're doing a good thing over there. Man showing or whatever Ugly truth, but they're doing a good thing over there, man Showing a lot of love to all the locals, and not just football but even volleyball, soccer and stuff. Man, so you guys tune in, they be going live and it's more support for the community. Man, Big shout out to those guys over there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no doubt man Big shout out.
Speaker 4:So local election, you got for mayor, right? You're talking about city mayors Veach and BPG. You don't know them, wayne, they're your neighbors.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, myself I try not to get into the politic thing, man, because politics to me is just really corrupt, so I just try to stay away from it.
Speaker 4:I'm just going to give a shout out to Brian Pierce Gonzalez, BPG. He's doing this thing. He's the underdog going against Veach. Like Chris said, when he came back he was like I see his Veach signs everywhere, but then BPGs are popping up everywhere.
Speaker 2:I'll give him props, man, because you know so the whole point is just go out and vote. Everybody's brave enough or confident in themselves to do it, but he's running. I've seen him signs here and there, but yeah, when I was in Winchester for the Evanshore reunion, everywhere I drove but I didn't drive, you know, but I rode around I saw nothing but blue signs everywhere. Rode around, I saw nothing but blue signs everywhere.
Speaker 4:reach, reach reach and I was like, goodness grace, he's dominating. No, but the whole point. I just wanted to get everybody it. It starts locally voting. I, you know. People don't understand. Hey, you're, you know your local politician is.
Speaker 3:It starts in your own town, so just get out and vote it does, man, and don't vote just for the name, just because you know who the person is. Man, do your research before you actually check the box, make sure this is the perfect candidate for you to vote for. But, like my brother said, just get out there and vote, because if we're not voting, then we're not helping the cause. Man.
Speaker 4:And don't bitch about who gets in office when your ass didn't even vote. You know people's good for that.
Speaker 3:That I hate the most, man. People always want to bitch and complain by oh wow, how did he get elected? Well, did you vote? Oh no, well, just leave your two cents out of it then.
Speaker 2:Right, I'll be honest. I'll say that that goes for local, for everybody and everywhere their local elections and stuff. I just don't believe it's to the bigger things. But next week we're definitely get into it for people that's interested into the Kamala and Trump or Trump and Kamala and all the red and blue and this and that hoopla. We'll get into that next week. But this week, after we get done talking about some local stuff, we're going to slide on into the baby oil talk.
Speaker 4:I've already said, are you?
Speaker 2:just ready to get into the baby oil. I mean, we can't. I can't lie. You know, one bottle of baby oil lasts me and and my profession of being a side massage therapist for like six months, man. So to have so-called thousand bottles or more, man, we might as well get all into it, man, because that's what it seems like happens at them. Freak offs.
Speaker 4:So all right.
Speaker 3:I guess it's kind of like Costco you buy it in bulk.
Speaker 4:So, chris, what Chris is getting at is P Diddy and the accusation, so let's get into it. What do you feel? How many, how many dildos did they find, supposedly?
Speaker 3:I have no idea about all that 300 and no, I want to say it was over 800.
Speaker 4:It was wild. Or 700, some number around there, but and then how much baby oil, because Chris keeps talking about this.
Speaker 2:A thousand bottles or so, which is just crazy, because one bottle of baby oil you could have a freak off with, I guess. But they are ready. No matter what, there's a lot of avenues. We can go with this, ladies and gentlemen, because this is way bigger than just sean, puffy combs and and all those celebrities, hip-hop celebrities, and actors and actresses and stuff. Those are the faces that we all know we grew up, which is crazy, love and listen to music, watching movies and shows and stuff. But and stuff those are the faces that we all know we grew up, which is crazy loving, listening to music, watching movies and shows and stuff.
Speaker 2:But there's so many more people that created and caused all this are the real ringleaders behind the scenes. But I think that's what they're trying to save face from is of those kind of people getting called out. So when they raided Diddy's house, they raided two of his three houses and didn't show the third house. But they're saving evidence from people such as Barack Obama and Donald Trump being called out because they've been part of those freak offs. It's not just Sean Combs and Mary J Blige and Usher, it's a lot more to it. But they don't want people to know because that's when it's the same thing as epstein. We're never going to see that list and you're never going to see the whole list about diddy's parties, because they make sure of that and if diddy tries to talk.
Speaker 2:The same thing that happened to epstein, I believe will happen to diddy. They will off that young man and he will be gone too. Yep, but then again, if you guys look at the history of a song like we love, like what? 2000, 2001, it came out the let's Get it, take this Money Ain't. No Way you Can Take this From Me. And what he's saying at the very beginning tell the cops, the feds, the A, to come get me Something, something, something. If I go down, you're all going with me. He warned us 25 years ago.
Speaker 4:Yep, yeah, you're right, and I have to say, were Pete, did he know? But of course we know him as Puff Daddy yeah, I grew up on Puffy.
Speaker 2:I was a fan. I knew he was never a rapper and he always had people writing for him. Which is my favorite line he ever said was don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks. And I was like, oh, that goes hard and I think Jada wrote that for him or whoever, but still, that's just look. You know what I really want to get into too. When did Puffy get get famous? It wasn't until biggie and pock booth died. Exactly then he really got famous and the day after biggie died, him and faith already had the song that you know, puffy stone. He still pays two million dollars per month, which is crazy, to sting for I'll be missing you or whatever that is. We all know that song, but I, even back then, I like how's he got this song out already and his boy is one of his best friends. Just that he got murdered.
Speaker 3:Well, it's kind of it kind of reminds me of the Simpsons man. It's like they tell you what's going to happen before it even happens, man, like they already know, man, when you have, when you have control and power and money, there's a lot of things that they know way before the average citizen does, man, and then they don't, really don't want to link certain stuff out. That's why, you know, you only hear certain things on the news about certain things.
Speaker 3:They won't tell you the whole picture or the whole story, just like the situation puff had them both killed well, there's a lot of rumors floating up, uh flowing around, that he had those two guys removed and I also heard that, you know, he had a little something to do with the nipsey hustle, because the girl that was that was dating him, her sister, was actually working for bad boy entertainment and just that's lauren l. Exactly, Mysteriously, Nipsey just all of a sudden just disappears and dies man. But they're basically saying that Lauren London basically set him up to get murdered.
Speaker 2:We'll never know all the truth behind it. I just know that there's a lot more behind the scenes and that all this ditty stuff is coming out for multiple reasons. But for one, how often does it seem like they, the black man, the entertainer, black men they get built up and they become so huge figures, entertainment wise, and then they get tore down when they try to do something else, like like bill cosby he tried to buy nbc they was like what. And then Prince and Michael Jackson calling out the entertainment industry and for the ones that really run it, they got in silence. All these people, they end up getting taken out.
Speaker 3:They have all these videos that are surfacing.
Speaker 2:Puffy trying to sue the Ciroc owners and this, and that, no, they're not playing, that they really got money and wealth in this whole world and they will silence you or do what they want.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Never bite the hand that feeds you, they say. And I mean it just goes to show they'll give you a whole lot of this and that and they put people on top. But they also put them on top to dumb us down. Man, Look how many of us really just listen to all this music and follow all these these famous celebrities and this and that. But they look how many one-hit wonders you guys remember, how many songs y'all know by mark morrison.
Speaker 3:Besides, returning to mac, he's right right.
Speaker 2:People chose to say no to going through one of those doors that supposedly everybody's finding out about now. But they, they was like one hit wonders guess what. I took my 15 minutes of fame and ran. I said no, no to all that extra stuff. Cat Williams too. Now he's made it more famously, but he was like look, they tried to pay me 50 million for this and that.
Speaker 4:But Cat was warning us.
Speaker 2:His first stand-up. It was so funny and everybody was laughing. Everybody thought he was just telling jokes, but he was telling the truth.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what I was like.
Speaker 2:Cat has been putting it out there, him, and Dave Chappelle for years have been telling us the truth, yeah, but everybody just thinks they're funny standups and stuff.
Speaker 4:And now you look back, he was spitting facts.
Speaker 2:When Dave made it big, they tried to make him go through the certain doors and he said nope. And then they was like why did he run to Africa? Well, I tell you why I ran to Africa Because these people can kill him.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was like why did Dave disappear and go off? Supposedly the deep end.
Speaker 2:But they make you look crazy when they don't want you to know what they're telling us. Like Kanye, they make Kanye look crazy. In reality, kanye was calling everybody out Like it might hurt people's feelings. Lebron James is in this shit too. The people like, no, no way, dude, I don't always believe stuff either, until you realize, look, there's a whole lot of stuff out there and I'm not going to get onto all of it now because we're going to try to stay on the Diddy stuff. But even LeBron I feel like LeBron had something to do with Kobe's death. Really, people are like, oh, you're going too far.
Speaker 3:I'm like dude don, when they want to take the top spot from everything, they they erase the, the competition. Hey, I mean it's, that's wild, it's real, it's real fishy to me because like, okay, when kobe died, you know, as an airplane operator or pilot, you're taught to not fly through crazy conditions and that pilot still decided to take it into his own initiative and still fly that plane man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the helicopter, but yeah, we definitely got to hold him accountable. Who's to say that? Kobe just said hey, screw it, I need to get here. You know, we'll never know the actual truth to this stuff because it's behind like closed doors man, just like their skeletons. It's in closets, man. We will never know until someone inside Intel leaks something out. That's why I give big shout out to Jaguar Wright. She was in the industry, she's tired of being silent man. She's throwing a lot of stuff out there and people need to listen to Jaguar because she's Intel man.
Speaker 2:You know who would have the biggest podcast in the world right now if they came out with one?
Speaker 3:jaguar right, orlando brown and cat williams if they started one together oh yeah, man, they'd probably be like freaking 50 million followers, man geez yeah, because they're exposing everything, believe them or not, everything is just.
Speaker 2:You know, we're telling them what we know how we feel. That's why we're brothers with opinions, man. But, dude, you know, what makes me sick, sometimes too, is when we listen to songs and we love them. Dude, go back to the original. I Need a Girl, the Puffy joint. Yeah, I need a girl to ride, ride, ride, ride. He's saying girls Like we get it. And as guys we was like brothers. Yeah, I ain't never fought with. I lived in the heavens home. We never wrestled and played fight underneath the covers. We might have fought in the room and wrestled around.
Speaker 3:We are not under the covers I might have done that with my childhood sweetheart. I'm not doing that with no brother.
Speaker 2:But he's got video footage when Kevin Hartman was going live and Diddy didn't realize it because he's all wasted and drugged out. He's like remember, when Usher, he's talking to Usher. Remember we used to wake up and wrestle, we used to play around. He's like, oh, oh, and he caught himself, but it was too late. He was like we used to fight over the Frosted Flakes, this and that, but now that you think about it, Puffy was talking about Usher.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2:He used to play fight under the covers. We was more than we was like brothers, and yeah, they was like brothers. He was just 10 and Diddy was like 19 at the time. But man, it's so crazy, because who allowed Usher at 10 years old to stay with Puffy reed? La reed facilitated it, but he ain't the dad or mom of fucking usher. So where's the parents at who allowed that? I would never allow my kid to go stay with another person, let alone a grown man.
Speaker 3:I don't care if they're rich or not, and they got money to help that 10 yeah, that doesn't even sound right Like I know it's a career-changing move for Usher, but to go and stay with an adult that's not even related to you, you know, it's like pawning kids off man. It's just like this stuff's got to stop, man.
Speaker 2:And in that song Usher's the one that's singing the vocals on it and he's fucking moaning and stuff in the background. You know, I'm like yo, now that we know that we're older and stuff. We're like what? Like he was messing with that little kid Usher and stuff. So I can't fault Usher and Justin Bieber and them when they were little kids and they got drugged and got molested and they got into that life. But once they knew it and they had the money and the fame they ran with it. So now I can fault them because now you know about it once you're old enough.
Speaker 3:Yeah, see, that's the biggest issue. Right there is the whole being drug thing. Like these kids are being lured in and right out of nowhere here. Take this drink, you know, and you know as a young kid. You're just thinking, oh, somebody made me a drink, but you never know what's inside of that drink, man.
Speaker 2:And once inside of that drink, man, and once you taste it, they got you. And then he said she got drugged at one of those parties and she like, like when you're young people tell you, right, don't leave your drunk under your drink unattended and go back and get it and that's anywhere. She did next thing. You know they was like she was blackout, sloppy, falling down. They had to put her in a room and there was other celebrities there. They didn't know what to do. She said thank the thank god janet jackson was there, came in, gave her the right kind of stuff she needed to make her function enough to be able to be kind of awake, to be like she can get herself together who hasn't been at his parties man.
Speaker 3:He invites all celebrities to the party, but the key is when the party starts. It's it's a regular party, but then there's an after party. See, I watched a video service on Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1:He said he had to go.
Speaker 3:He was at these parties but he said once that after party kicked in, denzel got in his car and he said I got to go because I'm not with this. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Well, weren't they saying, there was like certain room.
Speaker 3:He had certain rooms and shit was going on and blah, blah, blah. Dude, there's people that have put videos out talking about they. They went through these hallways looking for bathrooms and every door they open up is not a bathroom. Come on, man, if you got a house like that, every room should have a bathroom in it. Yeah, and all these locked doors, man, like it's just, you know, it's just a little shady business, man, and you know what I don't like about the whole situation is like, if we get in trouble or do something of this nature, we're whole, we're held accountable for what we did and that and that's what it's. This is boiled down to man. These people need to be held accountable for the crimes and horrific things that they have done to underage kids. Man, they've been doing this for numerous years. Man, yeah, you're right, yeah, but when you have control money, and power.
Speaker 4:I was about to say control money.
Speaker 3:And you're part of that secret society, man, you can cover things up, just like my brother, chris said it early in the show. Buffy had three matches, man. They searched two of them and the third one just was like they brought items out in a brown box, in a bag. What was in those boxes? Probably tapes and footage or evidence on higher up people that they don't want to be brought down. So they're going to eliminate that stuff. Man, you'll never see that surface. You'll never see those videos. Apparently he was recording incidences that were going on in his house, his mansion, but you'll never see those.
Speaker 4:Right, it's like you say. It's like the Epstein list You're never going to see it, or whatever you see. Is it true or false, factual or not? Growing up as a kid man, that's all I ever wanted, or whatever you see is it true or false, factual or not Right?
Speaker 3:And growing up as a kid man, that's all I ever wanted to do. Man was just try to be a professional athlete the fame. But to me, if I would have became famous man, I'm definitely not changing my lifestyle. Man, you got to not forget where you come from. Man, don't get lured into these so-called freak-off parties. Man, you have your own brain. You can make your own decisions, man. So if you see something out of the unordinary man, don't be afraid to speak up. But in this industry, man, when you speak up like that, a lot of people start disappearing. Man, I'm glad.
Speaker 2:I never made it rich and famous because I would have said no to all that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I know when I was young people would be like well, you'd have to switch your name because there's already a famous Chris Tucker. Well, guess what? I'm glad I didn't even attempt to try to be rich and famous, if I could have, because Chris Tucker was on the Epstein list and I'm going to be honest, I love him, funny actor, but he was on the Epstein list too. We'll never know the truth. But hey, just like, don't forget people like leonardo dicaprio and all these people. They had the diddy parties all the time, freak off, and you could see some wild footage and videos with them too exactly but look how big they are.
Speaker 2:They're not just people that made movies and are in things and be like, oh, I remember that actor, actress. No, these are superstars. That's how made it that big, and Diddy facilitated a lot of it with the help of those that they won't let the names come out about.
Speaker 4:Yeah, great.
Speaker 2:Tony, what do?
Speaker 4:you think about all this?
Speaker 2:What's that? What do you think about all this stuff that's going on, that's coming to light now, finally, after we've been knowing these people for 30 years plus?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean been. We've been knowing these people for 30 years plus. Yeah, I mean, it's what? And the thing is is like what I joked about, like I was never a p? Diddy, puff, daddy fan and I always thought there was something off about him. Anyway, I mean, honestly, people may not believe me or not, but I always thought something was off. So I was nothing to me in life, and probably you too. Nothing surprises me anymore, you know what I mean. It's like the wild stuff that goes on.
Speaker 2:It doesn't surprise me. What's Puffy's thing? What's he always say? When we was young and we said it, not thinking about it and thought it was funny, but what he always say in everything.
Speaker 4:Take that, take that, take that.
Speaker 3:Hey, when you have power, you can take that, take that gosh. Hey, when you have power, you can take that, take that, take that. So, like, like, this is no secret, man. Like you know the private island with jeffrey epstein. We know the freak off parties, but it's all about staying in your lane. Once you try to step outside of that lane, that's when the people that really control those people put them in their place, man, because they're a threat. Now, if we would just listen to some of these lyrics closely and some of these songs that were being heard from a lot of these celebrities, man, they're telling us the whole story, man, but we're just not putting the pieces of the puzzle together. Like, beyonce has a song that goes on she writes about Nickelodeon symbol shaped just like it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but Beyonce, she's got a song that's kind of disturbing to me, talking about a puddle of blood like in her house on the steps, and she starts talking about a lady like jay-z's mistress that she's. She basically says she liked her and her arrogance got in the way. So basically, I, I, me, personally, I think beyonce had something to do with the disappearance of kathy white, which was jay-z's alleged mistress, and now I agree with alia. Aaliyah is another one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 3:France, whitney Bill Cosby.
Speaker 2:But I'm talking about the death of Aaliyah man. Look, I've loved Jay-Z since 96, when I went to basketball camp in Greensboro, north Carolina, and I bought that Reasonable Doubt on December 96. I fell in love with him and I've loved his music. Will die on december 96. I fell in love with him and I've loved his music. But now that I look at it, man, look he's. He's probably more guilty than diddy as far as what he controls. He just moves a lot smarter than diddy. He don't put himself ever out there and all that stuff, but he's been involved in all of it and he's going down. Beyonce's going down, jennifer lopez going down, kim kardashian and kardashian they all going down. When this shit comes out.
Speaker 3:Exactly, but they're trying to put their shit together and cover their tracks, so none of these people really get exposed, man. That's why situations like this, the investigation, it's just like dragged out until they figure out. How are we going to present this? You know what I'm saying? It's like getting your ducks in order, man, and that's what they're doing right now.
Speaker 2:To a certain extent, though, I feel you Twin Because, like I said, yes, all this stuff is out, but guess what they got doing? They got all of us lesser so-called people speaking about it and distracted with this and that, while they're doing other things behind the scenes. But Diddy and them aren't the powerful ones behind all this. He's the powerful one in the entertainment industry that we see, but there's people that give these people those permissions, that power, that authority and that money to do things, and their names are the ones that won't come out right that's what I always hate.
Speaker 2:They won't. Those names are never going to come out because they will get silenced before it happens and they will throw puff daddy and all these people under the bus before they ever allow that to come out about them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly Puff Daddy. Believe it or not, he's a powerful figure when it comes to a businessman. Puff Daddy sold Ciroc you know what I mean Because he branched off and wanted to get into this tequila and this Casamigos and this Don Julio. But it was so funny that the dude that basically owned, or basically uh, was selling the sorak. He was having to sell the casamigos and the don julio for buff daddy man. So they're basically buff daddy's like I don't need you, I can do this and make my own money instead of you just paying me off sponsorship. It's almost like they want you to stay in your in your place, man.
Speaker 2:They don't want you bigger than them right, but they always want to remain behind the scenes because they just sit back and collect the money exactly, you know, puppy was the face of the entertainment and guess what he did? He helped so many people in the so-called hip-hop culture. He did and everything else, loved Ciroc and started buying crazy bottles of Ciroc and everything else, but Puffy never really owned any of it.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you right now Ciroc sales were down until Ciroc signed Puffy as a sponsor. Basically, however many cases we sell, we'll give you this off of a puffy, but really puffy saves a brock. And then, all of a sudden, sir rock started coming out with all these flavors berry, pineapple, coconut, french vanilla from french montana.
Speaker 2:That was all p diddy but what did p diddy do that they didn't like. He started calling out racism. That's when they was like all right, now you've been the one to feed you and we're about to shut you down, young man diddy.
Speaker 3:Diddy was very powerful man. He was to the point where he was wanting to start his own political party for black people and you know that's a whole nother topic, we won't get into that. But I mean the dude. We might not like these freak offs that we're hearing about, but at the end of the day he was a businessman. We all loved all artists that came through Bad Boy Entertainment. You remember the 112s, you remember the bass, you remember the biggies. Everybody loved it. But we didn't know what was going on outside of the music world.
Speaker 2:Well, look how big, it is Wayne and Tony, if you look at it. Okay, where's Biggie at Dead?
Speaker 3:Where's Biggie at Dead.
Speaker 2:Where's Craig Mack?
Speaker 3:Dead.
Speaker 2:Where's Black Rob?
Speaker 3:Dead.
Speaker 2:Where are all of the founders and starters of his first record label, except for him and Al B Shore, exactly Including Kim Porter?
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:Dead? Where's Tupac Dead? Where's Aaliy? Yep?
Speaker 3:Dead.
Speaker 2:Where's Tupac Dead? Where's Aaliyah?
Speaker 3:Dead.
Speaker 2:What'd you just say, nipsey Hussle? Where's all these people that make it Puffy and them? Got control man? And Jay-Z too? When they want to be on top, they will push everybody to the side or kill them all so that they can be on top. And that's why I'm very disappointed in jay-z. Now that I'm seeing and hearing all this stuff, I'm like damn. I knew he was a part of a lot of extra crazy stuff, but now that we look at it now I'm like damn, because puffy didn't become famous until biggie died, like that. They knew him. He wasn't famous, but he had that song out the day later. He went on tour. Like all the people that sean poe took 10 years for him. Like all this stuff, man, they let you ride as long as they want you to, but if they think you might take their spot or you're going to be bigger than them, they like no that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I was like you didn't want to play second fiddle.
Speaker 2:Jay-Z and Beyonce. You don't want us to play second fiddle to nobody and they don. Ig blew up. Yeah, that's, that's all everybody knew. And how crazy it is, because we love biggie and his lyrics and his flow was crazy. But if you go look at all those videos, little did we know, because we were fucking teenagers there's transsexuals in all those videos. Yeah, man, and I'm like damn, how did biggie not realize there's dudes out there dancing with like I'm just like man. I'm not against any of people being gay or whatever they are, but right, dude, that was stuff that was going on we had no idea about, but they was throwing in our faces little kids yeah, no, it was a.
Speaker 4:It was right in front of our face, but we just didn't oh was it. We were just oblivious to it. You know what I mean we didn't know about it.
Speaker 2:But I'll be honest. I'll be honest the, the pole cats and the duane clarkson on them, they holding us. They didn't know, they y'all didn't see that because we was young, we didn't even understand, we had no idea what that was, we didn't know and we just thought it was girls because we didn't think about it. But now you look back and it was dudes with big, grown shoulders and they had adam's apples and stuff. And I'm like damn, now you look at it, now it was like what? And those same trans transvestites or transsexuals, whatever they was, in all these videos?
Speaker 3:and you know, when you go to these parties, man, like once you get there, it's kind of like a trap, man, because you know all these high celebrity profile people. They live in gated communities, they got bodyguards. It it's like look, man, stay in your lane in your place. If you get out of line we'll remove you. It's just that simple man. You know some of these bodyguards, man. They're hit man. You got the mafia, you got homeland security. Like all these people are high up power man and they can remove a lot of shit man as far as evidence and people. Man.
Speaker 4:Right, who were we talking about? Jimi Hendrix? Yeah, you said his manager.
Speaker 3:His manager was a British intelligence agent man, but this was this guy's agent, though, yeah, we won't get into's agent. Though, yeah, we won't get into that either, because that's a whole other topic the British and US imperialism.
Speaker 4:But it just shows you, I guess, the shade behind the scenes, these people with power. His agent had that much power. You just never know who has who people are, I guess Exactly.
Speaker 3:Do your research before this person says who people are. I guess, do your research before this person says, oh, here, sign him as your agent. Or you know, like know, who these people are that are supposedly workers for you. You know what I mean, like your accountants and shit man. You got to know background history on these people, man. Or you can get robbed, you can get removed from the surface of this earth Like it's just a lot of stuff, people, man, or you can get robbed, you can get removed from the surface of this earth, like it's just a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2:Man like you know who else used to warn us and tell us about it when we was young. We loved them, but we were still too young to really understand george carlin dmx oh yeah, dmx did he used to always tell us and warn us and in his own things, and that's why I think he's great so much, because he knew what was going on and that whole industry was corrupt.
Speaker 3:Where's DMX at Gone, apparently from what?
Speaker 2:They always going to say drugs for everybody.
Speaker 4:Oh they did too much drugs.
Speaker 3:It's always an overdose, or you know, just like when Whitney Houston died, who died not too long after her, her freaking daughter, her daughter bobby brown forgot about that bobby, which was the daughter's name yeah, so. So we removed whitney, but oh, we still have a threat. Her daughter, her daughter still knows a lot and somehow, some way they both died from the same cause cocaine, drugs, man. Have you guys seen?
Speaker 2:or heard any videos from jay-z or lebron james since all this has come out no, of course you're not going to say it's like you don't hear that now this has come out. You have everybody's silent, it's nobody spoke out mary j blige, my favorite singer all the time. I love mary j blige. She was flying a 14 year old boy out to see her all the time and she had sexual acts with him. I'm like 14.
Speaker 4:Right, but that's what everybody was like. I forget who I was talking to, but they were saying hey, lebron James has always got his mouth open about anything else, but now that this is out, he ain't saying nothing, which is true. You talk about everything else on your plat. You know plat. You have that platform.
Speaker 2:Oh, hell, no you can't make an athlete like lebron james, but you can make their career last as long as it has compared to everybody else and as great as he is. There's things we won't know about. How is that happening? Yes, he's super god gifted compared to almost anybody that's ever been born, but there's a lot of things that this young man is able to do, and still do at his age, that nobody else has ever done, because you've reached a certain level where there's nobody can touch you. But he's not going to come out and speak on this puffy thing, but you guys can watch videos. He's like ain't no party, like a Diddy party yeah, well tell us about the you know what's going on?
Speaker 3:why don't you tell us about these Diddy parties, since there ain't no party like his? What'd you do up in there? What was going on, lebron? Not going to hear it, but you're not going to hear it because he don't want to be a P Diddy, he don't want to be a Jeffrey Epstein. You got to know your role, man, and LeBron knows his role. He cannot speak on this topic, man, and he will not, and neither will Jay-Z.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:They've disappeared. You haven't heard nothing from them. Well, let's keep going, man. Look, we wanted to speak about it and we know the whole world is talking about it At least the people that are into this entertainment thing.
Speaker 1:I can say the whole world.
Speaker 2:But I've had people tell me look, it's not the whole world, it's more like United States, america. And they they kind of right Cause there's people in many countries they don't care about what we're talking about with this puppy thing right now. But the truth is fellas, we're never going to know half of the facts and that's why we're just sharing our opinions, man.
Speaker 2:Because, we're next week, we're going to allow y'all guys to tune in and go live with us too, man. That's why I always give props where it's due, because I. That's why I always give props where it's due, because I'm not saying we were or were not inspiration for Dwayne and Mike to start their own podcast, and you know they're doing it their way. But we're able to chime in and leave comments or even get on their live while they're recording. And we're going to start doing that next week too, fellas, because we we want everybody to chime in, and it doesn't matter how old you are, where you're from or not.
Speaker 2:If you got some feedback or something, you want to chime in with the Brothers With Opinions, we would love you guys too, because it's about everybody, man. It's not just about Tony, chris, zab and Wayne's opinions, man. We just like to share our own, and we started a platform that we're proud of and glad to be back in it, but we want everybody to be a part of it and share your thoughts and opinions, man. Don't be worried about what nobody else thinks. Just just share your thoughts, because if you don't say anything, then you won't be heard.
Speaker 4:Very true.
Speaker 3:Exactly, man, and I don't come on this podcast with you guys for a clout or to become rich. I come on this podcast because you're my brothers, we keep it 100 and we want to just build a platform for where your voice can be heard. Man, they say America is freedom of speech.
Speaker 3:Man, you should be able to say whatever you want to say, I don't care who it offends, because it's just my opinion. Don't take it so personal. Don't get inside of your personal feelings. We all have our own opinions. Man. We see it all day on social media. People post this and post that, says this and says that. But don't ever think we're here trying to tell you the absolute truth. We're just trying to voice our opinion on the situation.
Speaker 4:That's it.
Speaker 3:And we're not asking for a hug from both sides. No, not at all. We're glad you're back, Wayne. Wayne is back. Yeah, I had to take a little leave of absence, but I'm back.
Speaker 2:But we're all back, man. We haven't been here in like 10 months, but we're back. It's the relaunch episode, man. Just to let you guys know, brother, the opinions are back. Fully in attack, man and proud of what everybody's doingne, tony, even my brother zeb. That's why zeb, like I said, couldn't be, here.
Speaker 2:He's over there grinding right now and, um, yeah, we want people to join, we want people to be a part of what we're doing, man, and we love seeing all the other podcasts and stuff that have started up since bwo has started and I'm not gonna be like bwo started everything.
Speaker 2:It's a lot of factors to why people do what they do, but it is it is a little, you know, feel good story to be like. Well, bwo was one of the first in the whole area to start and now we have all these other people doing it. But look, man, we we stopped doing it for a while. We had some things to regroup and gather and make sure we're professional enough to do this. And if we mess up or you guys don't like certain things we're doing not what we're saying saying, but how we're saying it or if we cut each other off too much, or you know, we want y'all's feedback, like one time we heard it from Stephanie Washington we talk over each other too much. We listen to that and we try not to do it as much, but we need more feedback from you guys or we won't know good or bad what we're doing.
Speaker 4:Very true.
Speaker 3:Everything you said is just going to help our show and our platform out. Everything you said is just going to help our show and our platform out, man. So, like I said, listen to my brother Chris. Y'all got any feedback, opinions or topics that y'all want to be heard.
Speaker 4:Be a guest.
Speaker 3:We got other platforms. We got Facebook. Shoot us a message, man. Reach out to us Facebook, instagram.
Speaker 4:X.
Speaker 2:We're on all three of the Brothers With Opinions pages, some of the topics we have coming up within the next couple of weeks is definitely the presidential election. It's also with Javion right, wayne. His name is Javion Carolina.
Speaker 3:Yeah, javion McGee, he was a truck driver that was hanging from a tree in Henderson, north Carolina.
Speaker 2:So just recently talking about that, we got a lot of things coming up, but those are some of the main topics we're going to be bringing up in the next couple of weeks. If you guys want to be a guest, reach out to one of the brothers, let us know and we'll definitely get you guys on. If you're from the West Coast it's a little difficult because we do like to do it early in the morning and get it over with so everybody can enjoy their Sunday. But yeah, if you guys don't speak up, we won't know. We've had a lot of great guests in the past and we're looking forward to some more guests coming up in the near future. Man, because BWO is back and you guys can call us brothers with the oil or whatever you want but we're back.
Speaker 4:Okay, well, sounds good y'all wrapping it up here? Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:Wayne has his corner with twin where he has these little betting tips.
Speaker 4:If Wayne wants to get into that real quick, are you going to give some betting tips real quick before we get off Wade?
Speaker 3:no, I wanted this week to just focus on the P Diddy a little bit. We didn't really go into full detail with this topic because you know we still have a lot of stuff that we need to gather to give you a little bit more information on what's going on with this P Diddy situation so we might have another show of part two of the P Diddy. We're just letting everybody know just follow this investigation, because I don't want it to get swept under the rug, because you know we got the presidential election coming up and it can easily get swept under the red carpet, man, you know what I mean. So we're going to keep voicing this until justice is served. Man, whoever is included in this little freak off stuff, they need to be held accountable stuff.
Speaker 2:They need to be held accountable. I will also say, since the diddy allegations and stuff, there has been a lot of ceos, high-ranked officers in lots of different areas, tweets deleted from numerous celebrities, a lot of people stepping down, even this dna website. Everybody stepped down and it all has to stem from diddy being the investigator and stuff going on, because everybody now is scared as shit. We're all going to get involved and caught out because they are all involved.
Speaker 4:Everybody's deleting accounts and they're going in hiding now.
Speaker 2:Have you guys heard anything from Justin Bieber since this came out, because he fears for his life.
Speaker 4:Exactly Nope, we all remember nobody has who has said anything about this?
Speaker 2:nobody, nobody the people that are calling it out orlando and jaguar and cat yeah, employees underneath of all these high profile people well you know and I don't blame justin bieber man, yeah, he changed his number.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he don't want nothing to do with diddy, no more. Man like we all remember that video when he was by the jet and bieber comes up and he slightly hugs him but he starts patting down like he's got a wire on and stuff.
Speaker 2:Man like yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 3:They know what's going on, man. That's why Bieber is hush-hush now, man. Bieber does not want to die this way, man, and he shouldn't die this way.
Speaker 4:I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 3:But I just want everybody to just open your eyes up, man, and just pay attention on what's going on in this world with high-profile people Like my brother, chris, and I.
Speaker 2:we had a conversation last night about all these organizations with the three-letter words they should all be deleted oh, say it again, chris they should all be deleted and we should start from scratch, and most of them should be erased. If you think about it, all the three-letter words are real big gangs and and they control everything and we're not even allowed to question most of it Exactly the CIA, the FBI, even the DOE Department of Education, all of this stuff is corrupt man. The DEA it's a different subject for another day, but all of this stuff is ridiculous how we've just listened and been conformed to the systems that they've created. But it's BS.
Speaker 3:That's what it is. You just said it. It's a system that they created and whatever information that they collect, they're just going to give us intel on what they want us to know. They're not going to give us, you, the full details. You said them three-letter words the DEA, fbi, csi, like I mean. This goes on and on, man, and there's no way that you can get behind the scenes with any of those organizations.
Speaker 2:Nope, but they're more involved than anything. I believe the FBI started Hollywood. I believe it, and that's a way to mind control the masses.
Speaker 3:Where's the interviews from some of these three-letter word organizations? Since all this went down, we haven't had an update from none of these people.
Speaker 2:Who runs the FBI? Because I don't know. I never hear about that. Who runs the CIA? We don't. Even people that work for those organizations aren't even allowed to tell you they work for.
Speaker 3:It's to me is secret society. And who's a secret society? It's a. It's a cult slash mafia man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the real Illuminati, yeah, so, anyway, anyway, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to do what they don't usually do, probably at those freak offs, and just wrap it up for the day. So we're going to let you guys go ahead and get your grills out, get your good Sundays going on. If you guys go ahead and get your grills out, get your good sundays going on. If you, if you're just getting out of church and getting ready for sunday football, whatever you're getting ready for hope, you guys have a blessed day, a blessed week. And, uh, get excited, man, because tony digits, wayne rush, zeb weaver and chris tucker, we're back, man, we're back better than ever. We're gonna be recording and going live next week, but this is the prelude to the, to the real bwo relaunch next week.
Speaker 3:But, uh, we just wanted to get y'all a little greasy this week with that baby, a little teaser, yeah all right well, sounds good fellas yeah, just don't be afraid, man, baby, you can use it for certain things, man, just you know, just don't use it for free calls, I mean, if it's your wife.
Speaker 4:Words of advice.
Speaker 3:If it's your wife and you, I mean understandable. But man, if it's a group of the same sex in there, I mean I'm not against gay people, Do what you got to do, but the underage stuff's got to stop, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because Bieber and Usher were babies, they were kids.
Speaker 3:Exactly, man. We don't need to do this. Man, I have kids, man.
Speaker 2:Orlando Brown was a kid. That's why he's calling everything out.
Speaker 3:Right, right. But, like I said, stay tuned, man, because this is just part one of this investigation, man.
Speaker 4:So we will relaunch another part two to this B Diddy freak off with the BWO. All right, sounds good, fellas.
Speaker 2:So we'll see y'all have a great rest of next week february good stuff, february is there which? Because it feels like it's been that long since we've done a show. But yeah, man, two days left in this month and um, we'll see you guys back in october, where it really gets spooky all right, sounds good, all right everybody, have a blessed day and stay safe.
Speaker 1:We'll see you guys back in October, where it really gets spooky. All right, sounds good. All right, everybody. Have a blessed day, stay safe. Stay safe everyone. Later let's march Outro Music.
